Re: [Finale] DISK space
Kim Richmond wrote: I am having a disk space issue. It might not be a Finale issue, but I think it is. I recently updated from MacFin2007 to 2008. I installed the program along with the Garriton Sounds that came along with it. Before this I had 50 GB hard drive space available. After installation I had 24 GB available. I worked on a piece last night for about 2 hours. I leave my computer on at night. When I got up this morning my computer said the disk was full. I thought I had saved the new piece last night, but when I tried to quit it this morning, it wouldn't SAVE, saying there was not enough disk space. So I lost the 2 hours of work. Now my disk says it has only 3 GB of free space. Is this a Finale issue? I can't think of any other reason. Is this a Garriton issue. If the answer is YES to the last question, can I install the Garriton stuff on an external hard drive and have it work with the program on my native hard disk? Thanks for any answers, KIM R ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Finale files aren't very large, even when you choose to use the Garritan sounds, assuming you were trying to save as a native Finale file and not trying to save as audio. There's no reason why with 3GB left of free space that you couldn't have saved a Finale file. But more importantly, why is your computer reporting a drop of 21GB of free disk space when it has sat idle overnight. Strange. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] copying reel to reel tapes
On 09.04.2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a huge reel-to-reel collection, and the dire predictions about the shortness of the half-life of the medium are greatly exaggerated. The first tapes I made in 1957 are still in perfect condition; and keeping them this way is not the mission impossible it's sometimes made out to be. It is my understanding that only a certain type of tape was affected by the problems. I definitely have a lot of exactly these reels. My fathers reel tape collection, which he made in the seventies is almost entirely affected by the problem. In this case there is nothing really valueable that needs saving. The good thing is that we own a direct drive reel tape machine (the large Technics machine) which can cope with two and four-track tapes. However, we haven't used it in a long time, so it may need overhaul, two. Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] DISK space
On Apr 10, 2008, at 12:22 AM, Kim Richmond wrote: I am having a disk space issue. It might not be a Finale issue, but I think it is. I recently updated from MacFin2007 to 2008. I installed the program along with the Garriton Sounds that came along with it. Before this I had 50 GB hard drive space available. After installation I had 24 GB available. I worked on a piece last night for about 2 hours. I leave my computer on at night. When I got up this morning my computer said the disk was full. I thought I had saved the new piece last night, but when I tried to quit it this morning, it wouldn't SAVE, saying there was not enough disk space. So I lost the 2 hours of work. Now my disk says it has only 3 GB of free space. Is this a Finale issue? I can't think of any other reason. Is this a Garriton issue. If the answer is YES to the last question, can I install the Garriton stuff on an external hard drive and have it work with the program on my native hard disk? Thanks for any answers, Kim, I can't think of why your HD would fill up over night (unless maybe you had auto-save and backup on with unlimited levels) but for next time I can offer a few ideas which would allow you to save and not lose work. (BTW, 3 gigs is still plenty to save a Finale file and do just about any kind of disc work you need to do, so I don't get it. Maybe the system was in a delicate state, i.e., needed to be rebooted, and was giving you false numbers.) You could look through your HD, maybe even searching by date (everything since yesterday) to see what was brand new and might be disposed of to make space. There might even be some files that you don't need that you could delete, enough to make some space. This can be done while Finale is up and running, even with the Save As dialogue box open. You could also save to another drive, like a USB thumb drive. Dennis B-K had some advice a couple of years ago about incremental saves, which has saved me several times since I started doing it. Computers crash, particularly Finale, and you don't want to go without saving any longer than you would care to lose what you have done since the last save. Basically it amounts to putting a number 001 at the end of the filename, but before the extension, like Mywork001.mus. Then every time you stop to think or scratch yourself or take a sip of coffee, you hit command-shift-S (Mac command for Save As...) and change the 001 to 002, then next time to 003, etc. This gives you a running history of your work that you can revert to whenever you need to, and avoids the classic pilot error of doing something huge to screw up your file and then saving it, overwriting everything. Sorry about the lost work. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] DISK space
Kim Richmond wrote: After installation I had 24 GB available. [...] Now my disk says it has only 3 GB of free space. Isn't there any OSX diagnose utility available that can analyze/show/graph how the disc space is used? 21GB shouldn't be hard to track down with such a utility. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Find Parallel Motion Plug-in
[Finale 2002] I have noticed errant behaviour in the Find parallel motion plug-in before and just chose not to use it, but I decided to try to work out exactly what it is doing and have decided it really does not do what it is supposed to do. I had composed additional parts for some renaissance music and thought it would be very useful to use this tool, but when processing all staves, the plug-in claims to find parallel movement where it does not exist; I even removed my added parts and tried again and the plug-in found a different set of parallel perfect intervals, although clearly these were present all the time. The plug-in only seems to work when selecting two staves at a time - but these have to be adjacent to each other (or is there a way to select two separated staves in Finale 2002?) Does anyone know if it possible to get this plug-in to work properly? Regards, Michael Lawlor ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] DISK space
On 10 Apr 2008 at 14:39, Jari Williamsson wrote: Kim Richmond wrote: After installation I had 24 GB available. [...] Now my disk says it has only 3 GB of free space. Isn't there any OSX diagnose utility available that can analyze/show/graph how the disc space is used? 21GB shouldn't be hard to track down with such a utility. Sounds like a memory leak/paging file issue to me. And that might explain why Finale couldn't save, i.e., Finale was using 3GBs of page file space (though that seems insanely huge), and that was not released until Finale was closed (and the work lost). If this had happened to me I would have saved to a USB Flash drive. Everyone should have one around for just these kinds of tasks, I think (as well as lots of other uses). -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Find Parallel Motion Plug-in
On 10 Apr 2008 at 13:42, M LAWLOR wrote: I have noticed errant behaviour in the Find parallel motion plug-in before and just chose not to use it, but I decided to try to work out exactly what it is doing and have decided it really does not do what it is supposed to do. I had composed additional parts for some renaissance music and thought it would be very useful to use this tool, but when processing all staves, the plug-in claims to find parallel movement where it does not exist; I even removed my added parts and tried again and the plug-in found a different set of parallel perfect intervals, although clearly these were present all the time. The plug-in only seems to work when selecting two staves at a time - but these have to be adjacent to each other (or is there a way to select two separated staves in Finale 2002?) I use Finale 2003 and have been pretty unimpressed with the plug-in as well. I think the problem with it is that it doesn't distinguish between direct and indirect parallels. It would be nice if the plug- in allowed you to sellect whether or not you included indirect parallels. Does anyone know if it possible to get this plug-in to work properly? Well, what you have to do is examine the results and determine which ones are real and which ones aren't. I don't recall it ever missing direct parallels, so at least you know you get all of those, even though you have to sort them out from the thicket of indirect parallels. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] DISK space
A year or so ago a friend of mine had an apparently sudden drop in available disk space and the same disk full messages. The culprit turned out to be absurdly bloated console log files (Applications/ Utilities/Console). It was unclear how the problem had occurred, but clearing out the logs did the trick. This can be done manually, but can also be done via regular maintenance with applications like OnyX, MacJanitor, etc. This fixed my friend's problem, and with regular maintenance, it hasn't occurred. That won't solve your lost work, but if that's your issue, it would certainly help solve/prevent... ng ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re(2): [Finale] DISK space
My wife's iMac had this issue and it did turn out to be a 20GB log file. You may need to use the Terminal program and the sudo command to delete logs in /var/log/ if the previously-mentioned utilities don't fix it. **Leigh On Thu, Apr 10, 2008, Neal Gittleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A year or so ago a friend of mine had an apparently sudden drop in available disk space and the same disk full messages. The culprit turned out to be absurdly bloated console log files (Applications/ Utilities/Console). It was unclear how the problem had occurred, but clearing out the logs did the trick. This can be done manually, but can also be done via regular maintenance with applications like OnyX, MacJanitor, etc. This fixed my friend's problem, and with regular maintenance, it hasn't occurred. That won't solve your lost work, but if that's your issue, it would certainly help solve/prevent... ng ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] swing feel in non-jazz piece?
I'm working on a piano piece that has a recurring two eighth note motive that has a slight swing to it. Definitely not a quarter/eighth triplet feel; an accurate representation might be an eighth tied to a 32nd note, followed by a 32nd tied to a 16th, but that looks precious to me, esp. in context with the way the rest of the piece looks. Any notation suggestions? Thanks Stu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] swing feel in non-jazz piece?
Slight swing Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 10 Apr 2008, at 11:22 AM, Stu McIntire wrote: I'm working on a piano piece that has a recurring two eighth note motive that has a slight swing to it. Definitely not a quarter/eighth triplet feel; an accurate representation might be an eighth tied to a 32nd note, followed by a 32nd tied to a 16th, but that looks precious to me, esp. in context with the way the rest of the piece looks. Any notation suggestions? Thanks Stu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale and Vista
At 4/9/2008 08:37 PM, David McKay wrote: Any problems with using older versions [say 2004] with Windows Vista? Do we need patches or anything? I know that 3.7 works in Vista. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] swing feel in non-jazz piece?
On 10-Apr-08, at 11:22 AM, Stu McIntire wrote: I'm working on a piano piece that has a recurring two eighth note motive that has a slight swing to it. Definitely not a quarter/eighth triplet feel; an accurate representation might be an eighth tied to a 32nd note, followed by a 32nd tied to a 16th, but that looks precious to me, esp. in context with the way the rest of the piece looks. Any notation suggestions? Darcy's suggestion is the best for me, too, but explaining it to someone who doesn't understand swing is the problem. I suggest a note accompanying the work, either as a footnote or an incipit before the body of the work starts (I know that's not a traditional incipit, but I think the concept works!) Then a bracket with swing indicating the passage is all that is needed. I like Smart Lines for this, as I can start a bracket with a word or two. Gunther Schuller suggested that a medium swing in the 50's was played rhythmically somewhat like a sixteenth quintolet; a dotted eighth followed by an eighth, with a 5 over the pair. While this is too fussy for normal notation, it might be useful as an explanation in your accompanying note. When I first got a sequencer (Cubase on an Atari!) I spent a lot of time trying to figure out what I was hearing when a running eighth- note line felt right to me in a jazz context. The quintolet was reasonable in a medium tempo, but I noticed that I wanted it swingier at slow tempos and more even at faster tempos. I also noticed that it felt older in style if I made the eighths more uneven at faster tempos. This all went out the window as soon as I stopped running eighths and tried some combinations of quarters and eighths with various accents. The relationship between accent and rhythm got very complex, too, as I could fool my ear into thinking a note was more laid-back than I thought it was if it had a heavier accent. But not final upbeat eighths! This was very confusing to a young jazz musician who thought he had it all figured out... As one of my teachers used to say, there is no replacement for a good ear. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] DISK space
Kim Richmond / 08.4.9 / 0:22 AM wrote: After installation I had 24 GB available. I worked on a piece last night for about 2 hours. I leave my computer on at night. When I got up this morning my computer said the disk was full. I thought I had saved the new piece last night, but when I tried to quit it this morning, it wouldn't SAVE, saying there was not enough disk space. So I lost the 2 hours of work. Now my disk says it has only 3 GB of free space. First of all, if you left it over night, it won't be log file since log file would be zipped up and turned over at 3:15AM unless you hacked cron script. Did you reboot to see if the available space changed? I believe 21GB of memory leak is also unusual unless you were running some beta software which went to inf loop. My first suspicion goes to someone hacked on your OS for Spamming others, depending on your network/OS security level. My 2nd guess goes to cache files. Something went south and was unable to flash caches. Tools such as Onyx could clean caches. You can also search files by date to see recent activity. Tools like EasyFind will help you on this. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] swing feel in non-jazz piece?
Darcy's suggestion is the best for me, too, but explaining it to someone who doesn't understand swing is the problem. I suggest a note accompanying the work, either as a footnote or an incipit before the body of the work starts (I know that's not a traditional incipit, but I think the concept works!) Then a bracket with swing indicating the passage is all that is needed. I like Smart Lines for this, as I can start a bracket with a word or two. Thanks for the ideas and related comments. I tried just indicating what I wanted with words but the two note motive, which always appears in the right hand, is embedded in a bunch of other stuff and I found it hard to indicate that this direction applies only to those notes. And yes, if I'm lucky enough to not be the only person who plays this thing, the victim will most likely not be at home with swing. Stu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] DISK space
The likely hood of a Mac getting hacked for Spamming is just about nil. I don't believe there is a documented case. I think he might have something going on with the Volume Bit Map. Reboot, hold down the Apple and the S key, and run what is says there fsck something. You can also manually force the logs to update by opening up Terminal and typing sudo periodic daily and then change it to weekly, then monthly. On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:39 AM, A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, if you left it over night, it won't be log file since log file would be zipped up and turned over at 3:15AM unless you hacked cron script. Did you reboot to see if the available space changed? I believe 21GB of memory leak is also unusual unless you were running some beta software which went to inf loop. My first suspicion goes to someone hacked on your OS for Spamming others, depending on your network/OS security level. My 2nd guess goes to cache files. Something went south and was unable to flash caches. Tools such as Onyx could clean caches. You can also search files by date to see recent activity. Tools like EasyFind will help you on this. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] DISK space
Eric Dannewitz / 08.4.10 / 3:02 PM wrote: The likely hood of a Mac getting hacked for Spamming is just about nil. I don't believe there is a documented case. Ur, you might be mistaken with virus attack, maybe? If you have a port open, your shared folder on your Mac is visible to public, and someone can leave invisible self-contained (read OS won't be alerted) spamming script there. That's how spamming are done on L/Unix servers these days. I have seen one running at AppleStore. I told them the hacked process but they already knew that. I think he might have something going on with the Volume Bit Map. Ur, volume bitmap is a map between file and sectors. It won't report false disk space, tho. By the way, if you found a humongous log file even though you left the machine on over night, you'd better find what caused it. When you find system.log file to me more than a MB or so, you will find millions of errors there. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale and Vista
Thanks Phil. David McKay On 10/04/2008, Phil Daley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 4/9/2008 08:37 PM, David McKay wrote: Any problems with using older versions [say 2004] with Windows Vista? Do we need patches or anything? I know that 3.7 works in Vista. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- www.gontroppo.blogspot.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] DISK space
On Apr 10, 2008, at 1:08 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Ur, you might be mistaken with virus attack, maybe? If you have a port open, your shared folder on your Mac is visible to public, and someone can leave invisible self-contained (read OS won't be alerted) spamming script there. That's how spamming are done on L/Unix servers these days. I have seen one running at AppleStore. I told them the hacked process but they already knew that. Um, the likely hood of that is like seeing Bigfoot and Yeti at the same time. I seriously doubt Kim had this happen to him. AppleStore, yeah, sure...I can see someone messing around with a computer and doing that. Ur, volume bitmap is a map between file and sectors. It won't report false disk space, tho. No, I don't think so. http://developer.apple.com/documentation/mac/Files/Files-103.html and http://www.macfixitforums.com/printthread.php?Board=Forum38main=770243type=post By the way, if you found a humongous log file even though you left the machine on over night, you'd better find what caused it. When you find system.log file to me more than a MB or so, you will find millions of errors there. I suppose this could happen. I used to use drivers for a buggy M-Audio PCI card, and it would flood the logs with errors, but not in the gigabyte range. Maybe 30megs or so. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] RE: DISK SPACE OT
Thank you all for your efforts at help. The issue was not Finale or Garriton at all. It was the backup program Deja Vu, which I updated with a new version recently. It was mistakenly backing up my User folder to my own hard disk rather than my backup disk. It is now corrected and I'm back to 50 GB free space. Thanks to all, KIM R ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] RE: DISK SPACE OT
A Sent on the go via my iPhone On Apr 10, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Kim Richmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you all for your efforts at help. The issue was not Finale or Garriton at all. It was the backup program Deja Vu, which I updated with a new version recently. It was mistakenly backing up my User folder to my own hard disk rather than my backup disk. It is now corrected and I'm back to 50 GB free space. Thanks to all, KIM R ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
