[Finale] Re: Extended font characters in text blocks
Thanks everyone for your help. I get the digest version, so my belated additional info about my OS was sent before I read everyone's replies. I'm updating some files that I created using Finale 2003 in OS9 and I used a custom fraction font that is only PS type 1 so it won't work in OSX. My best option would probably be to use a basic font editing program like FontLab's TypeTool (US$100) to remap the fraction glyphs in NCS to accessible characters and save it as a new custom OT font. If anyone can recommend a cheaper alternative, I'm all ears (I'm not too concerned with sending the files to anyone else). Thanks for your help, Brian Williams >> Dear list, >> >> Does anyone know how I can enter some of the "off the keyboard" unicode font >> characters into a text block in Finale? Specifically, I'm trying to enter >> fractions from the OpenType version of New Century Schoolbook. The fractions >> show up as glyphs in the character palette but have no associated keyboard >> combination to enter them directly. I tried using the character palette to >> enter them into a TextEdit document and then copying and pasting them into a >> Finale text block, but all I got was a question mark in its place. >> >> Brian > > Hi Brian, > > I struggled with this myself a number of times. Basically, Finale > does not support Unicode (bug them about it to get your complaint on > the list) so the extended characters are not directly accessible. > > If you aren't able to find the characters you need ON the keyboard in > some font or other (the Mac Character Palette app is great for that!) > then your only recourse is to export them from a text application as > a graphic, and import them into Finale as Shape Expressions. Finale > in 2008 had a nasty bug that prevented Shape Expressions from > attaching properly to their handles, so they jumped around in > different views and at different zooms. I haven't checked to see if > Finale 2009 has repaired that particular bug or not, so you might be > in for some frustrating times. > > If you own a font editing program, you can change the "slot" of the > glyph you need to something you can type (hopefully under a new name > so you don't lose, say, your letter "Q" in the font!) and get around > it this way. You won't be able to send the file to anyone, though. > > Sorry for the bad news. > > Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinMac 2K7 key change dilemma
Right! I remember that now! Big problems with key changes, time sig changes, adding double bars, measure attached expressions, etc. "Actual" works, "defined" caused problems. Christopher On Aug 14, 2008, at 3:26 PM, J D Thomas wrote: Andrew, This may or may not work, but it's worth a try. I had the same problem a few times involving a time signature change that the file steadfastly refused to accept. Changing the measure number definition in Doc Options from actual to defined or vice versa, worked. It might work for you here and it only take second to check. Personally I think it's a 2K7 bug, but then I think just about everything in 2K7 is buggy!! Good luck. Let us know of you find a fix. *** J D Thomas ThomaStudios West Linn OR www.thomastudios.com On Aug 14, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: I'm editing a file containing six different songs, originally sent to me in some older version of Finale and updated by me to 2K7. There is a spot where I have to insert a key change, and for the life of me I can't get it to happen. The change is from Eb major to C major, and when I go through the usual key-change process it just doesn't happen: If I force the key sig to appear afterwards in that bar, it still shows the key as being Eb. Any ideas? I can't work with the un-updated original version, because I would lose all the other (extensive) editing that I've already done. Advice would be very greatly appreciated. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinMac 2K7 key change dilemma
Andrew, This may or may not work, but it's worth a try. I had the same problem a few times involving a time signature change that the file steadfastly refused to accept. Changing the measure number definition in Doc Options from actual to defined or vice versa, worked. It might work for you here and it only take second to check. Personally I think it's a 2K7 bug, but then I think just about everything in 2K7 is buggy!! Good luck. Let us know of you find a fix. *** J D Thomas ThomaStudios West Linn OR www.thomastudios.com On Aug 14, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: I'm editing a file containing six different songs, originally sent to me in some older version of Finale and updated by me to 2K7. There is a spot where I have to insert a key change, and for the life of me I can't get it to happen. The change is from Eb major to C major, and when I go through the usual key-change process it just doesn't happen: If I force the key sig to appear afterwards in that bar, it still shows the key as being Eb. Any ideas? I can't work with the un-updated original version, because I would lose all the other (extensive) editing that I've already done. Advice would be very greatly appreciated. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinMac 2K7 key change dilemma
On Aug 14, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: I'm editing a file containing six different songs, originally sent to me in some older version of Finale and updated by me to 2K7. There is a spot where I have to insert a key change, and for the life of me I can't get it to happen. The change is from Eb major to C major, and when I go through the usual key-change process it just doesn't happen: If I force the key sig to appear afterwards in that bar, it still shows the key as being Eb. Any ideas? I can't work with the un-updated original version, because I would lose all the other (extensive) editing that I've already done. Advice would be very greatly appreciated. Oof. Sounds like file corruption. First, make sure that all the alternative methods don't work, either. Try right-clicking the measure with the Key Sig tool. Try control- clicking (the one-button Mac equivalent). Try double-clicking as well. Sometimes one method goes bad while other methods still work. Quit and restart Finale. Open the file and see if the problem is still there. Try rebooting the computer, and see if the problem is still there. Can you get the key change to appear in bar 2 of that song? If so, then you may have isolated the corrupt measure as being measure 1. Copy the contents of that measure to another file, delete the measure, insert a new empty measure, and see if that new measure will take the key change. If it does, then copy the contents back again. Usually it doesn't copy the corruption back again. I can't remember now if 2007 allows keys to be copied. If it does, you might try copying a passage from another part of the document ALONG WITH the key. Maybe Inserting a clip file of a passage with the correct key will kick-start it. Sometimes that works for me, and sometimes it doesn't. I feel for you. Don't forget trying tech support, too, though I haven't had much luck with them recently. Christopher Here is Dennis B-K's file cleaning procedure, too. I've mentioned this fix before. It appears that intractable measures must be deleted and new ones created. In November, I posted a step-by-step procedure that seems to work every time: Save the file under a new name, delete the offending measure completely, re-save the file, close it, exit Finale, and restart and re-open. Then do a data check, re-save, exit, restart and re-open. Insert a new blank measure where it's needed, data check, re-save, exit, restart, re- open. Then re-enter the material by hand into the new blank measure, re- save, data check, re-save, exit, restart, re-open. By the time I've gone through all these steps, the nasty measures seem to have been scrubbed out. (In older version of Finale that support ETF, sometimes saving the ETF and reloading from there will fix it.) (I also have workarounds for font crashes, the buggy retrograde plugin, and the PDF dashed-line proliferation. All were posted to the list.) And I'll repeat Dennis's Safe Practices Ass-Saver from early 2006, which also provides a trail of versions so you can go back and recover pre-screwed-up documents: 1. Turn a program's automated backup OFF. 2. Turn a program's backup-when-saving ON (not necessary, but a stupidity-safeguard). 3. Create my first file of a project with "001" in the name (such as "HighBirds 001.mus" or "RFID Predictions for 2006-001.doc"). 4. At every thought-pause, do a "Save As...", incrementing the filename by 1. (The thought-pause save is second nature now. In 11 muscle-memory keystrokes, I've created a safe harbor for my work -- and a running history if it's something I'm composing.) 5. Save all documents, exit the program, and restart it. 6. Re-open the document and "Save As...", incrementing the filename by 1. In Finale, I add these additional safeguards: 1. At every major revision or addition point, do a Data Check for deleted items and document integrity. 2. Then "Save as..." under the next incremented name. 3. At every major stopping point (dinner, sleep, Scotch), exit Finale and delete everything in the TEMP directory. 4. When extracting parts, immediately save the parts and score under new names (not just Finale's names), exit the program, and re-open everything to begin actual work. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FinMac 2K7 key change dilemma
Is there a Staff Style or are there Staff Attributes interfering with the key change? (Independent Key Signatures, for instance.) Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 14 Aug 2008, at 2:54 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: I'm editing a file containing six different songs, originally sent to me in some older version of Finale and updated by me to 2K7. There is a spot where I have to insert a key change, and for the life of me I can't get it to happen. The change is from Eb major to C major, and when I go through the usual key-change process it just doesn't happen: If I force the key sig to appear afterwards in that bar, it still shows the key as being Eb. Any ideas? I can't work with the un-updated original version, because I would lose all the other (extensive) editing that I've already done. Advice would be very greatly appreciated. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] FinMac 2K7 key change dilemma
I'm editing a file containing six different songs, originally sent to me in some older version of Finale and updated by me to 2K7. There is a spot where I have to insert a key change, and for the life of me I can't get it to happen. The change is from Eb major to C major, and when I go through the usual key-change process it just doesn't happen: If I force the key sig to appear afterwards in that bar, it still shows the key as being Eb. Any ideas? I can't work with the un-updated original version, because I would lose all the other (extensive) editing that I've already done. Advice would be very greatly appreciated. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 4/4 vs. Common Time
Blake Richardson wrote: From: Aaron Sherber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:32:18 -0400 (EDT) To: Subject: Re: [Finale] 4/4 vs. Common Time Is there any way to change the default from "C" to 4/4? You don't say what version of Finale you're using, but open the Document Options dialog and look under Time Signatures. Uncheck the box at the top that says "Abbreviate common time to". Yeah, I probably should have said that I'm using Allegro. (And contemplating an upgrade to the full version.) I checked under Document Options and there is no ""Abbreviate common time" option listed. I guess this must be one of the limitations of Allegro compared to full Finale. One more reason to consider the upgrade, I guess. In the Time Signature tool dialog, is there a checkbox for "Abbreviate Common Time" or possibly an Options button you could click to see if it might just be hidden a layer further down. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 4/4 vs. Common Time
From: Aaron Sherber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:32:18 -0400 (EDT) To: Subject: Re: [Finale] 4/4 vs. Common Time >> Is there any way to change the default from "C" to 4/4? > > You don't say what version of Finale you're using, but open the Document > Options dialog and look under Time Signatures. Uncheck the box at the top that > says "Abbreviate common time to". Yeah, I probably should have said that I'm using Allegro. (And contemplating an upgrade to the full version.) I checked under Document Options and there is no ""Abbreviate common time" option listed. I guess this must be one of the limitations of Allegro compared to full Finale. One more reason to consider the upgrade, I guess. Thanks for the help anyway. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [OT] tech help
On a similar related topic, I currently have a Mac Powerbook G4 running OS 10.3.9 (I need to be able to continue to run Finale 2003a on Classic), and so I'm planning on purchasing a new iMac so I can run a newer version of Finale. How do I transfer all of my files, including folders, bookmarks on Safari, my emails (I use Mac mail) plus other settings? I've been told I need a firewire cable from one mac to the other, but I've also been told that once I turn on a new iMac, it will search, through the wireless, for another computer and transfer things from that computer. Just what do I have to do to achieve this? Does an automatic transfer do everything I described above? Does it also transfer software? How about my email configuration? Thanks, Martin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [OT] tech help
I also forgot, there's a "Files and Settings Transfer wizard" on XP that will create something that you may be able to import on Vista but I can't remember. On Aug 14, 2008, at 5:41 AM, Phil Daley wrote: At 8/13/2008 10:45 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: >My brother just bought a new PC with Windows Vista on it, and wonders >how to transfer his Outlook address book and bookmarks to it. Do any of > you with less obsolete technical skills than I have any hints? Just like any other windows PC except, you can't get to ApplicationData through the C:\DocumentsAndSettings directory anymore. That directory has been system protected. You have to use the C:\UserData directory which is a mirror of DocsAndSettings. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Allen Fisher Founder and Principal Developer Fisher Art and Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [OT] tech help
For contacts: In outlook's file menu, there's an export item and an import item. Export as CSV. That will get his contacts. If he has outlook express, the replacement on VISTA is Windows Mail, which has an import item, just import the file. For bookmarks: On his XP machine, grab the C:\documents and settings\\favorites folder Drop the contents into c:\Users\\Favorites On Aug 14, 2008, at 5:41 AM, Phil Daley wrote: At 8/13/2008 10:45 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: >My brother just bought a new PC with Windows Vista on it, and wonders >how to transfer his Outlook address book and bookmarks to it. Do any of > you with less obsolete technical skills than I have any hints? Just like any other windows PC except, you can't get to ApplicationData through the C:\DocumentsAndSettings directory anymore. That directory has been system protected. You have to use the C:\UserData directory which is a mirror of DocsAndSettings. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Allen Fisher Founder and Principal Developer Fisher Art and Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] [OT] tech help
At 8/13/2008 10:45 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: >My brother just bought a new PC with Windows Vista on it, and wonders >how to transfer his Outlook address book and bookmarks to it. Do any of > you with less obsolete technical skills than I have any hints? Just like any other windows PC except, you can't get to ApplicationData through the C:\DocumentsAndSettings directory anymore. That directory has been system protected. You have to use the C:\UserData directory which is a mirror of DocsAndSettings. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
