Re: [Finale] (no subject)

2009-02-12 Thread dhbailey

Katherine Hoover wrote:

Dear Finalelist,

I still need answers to the following.

1. In Finale 2000 and before, I could hit say a quarter note with
the 4 key (on  a Mac) and it would turn into an 8th.

My Finale 2004 will not do this.  I have to erase and do over.  Is
there a way to reset this?

2. The program automatically fills in a measure, that I have not
necessarily finished, with rests.  I am told there is a way to reset
this.  Will I find it under options?



I think it is essentially the same on both Mac and Windows 
versions in this regard.


To solve problem 2, in the Speedy Entry menu, uncheck the 
Fill Measure With Rests option.


Problem 1 has always worked as it used to for you, in speedy 
entry, so I'm not sure what to say about that.  Are you sure 
the note entry cursor is on the quarter note when you hit 
the 4 key?


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Re: [Finale] (no subject)

2009-02-12 Thread Aaron Sherber

On 2/12/2009 7:31 PM, Katherine Hoover wrote:

1. In Finale 2000 and before, I could hit say a quarter note with
the 4 key (on  a Mac) and it would turn into an 8th.

My Finale 2004 will not do this.  I have to erase and do over.  Is
there a way to reset this?


You don't say what entry method you're using. And I no longer have 2004 
around, but in 2007 and later this still works in Speedy Entry.



2. The program automatically fills in a measure, that I have not
necessarily finished, with rests.  I am told there is a way to reset
this.  Will I find it under options?


Depending on what entry method you're using, look at Simple | Options or 
Speedy | Options. Uncheck 'Fill with rests at end of measure'.


Aaron.
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[Finale] (no subject)

2009-02-12 Thread Katherine Hoover

Dear Finalelist,

I still need answers to the following.

1. In Finale 2000 and before, I could hit say a quarter note with
the 4 key (on  a Mac) and it would turn into an 8th.

My Finale 2004 will not do this.  I have to erase and do over.  Is
there a way to reset this?

2. The program automatically fills in a measure, that I have not
necessarily finished, with rests.  I am told there is a way to reset
this.  Will I find it under options?

Thanks for the help -
Katherine Hoover

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Re: [Finale] Splash screen

2009-02-12 Thread David W. Fenton
On 12 Feb 2009 at 17:50, Phil Daley wrote:

> I thought Microsoft's defense was that Apple stole it from Xerox to begin
> with?

I don't know and am not really interested in investigating it myself. 
You can likely figure it out for yourself by reading this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_v._Microsoft

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Re: [Finale] Splash screen

2009-02-12 Thread Carl Dershem

Phil Daley wrote:

At 2/12/2009 05:28 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

 >On 12 Feb 2009 at 17:12, dhbailey wrote:
 >
 >> Blake Richardson wrote:
 >> >> Actually it was original at the Xerox PARC (Palo Alto
 >> >> Research Center) and Apple stole it from them and then
 >> >> Microsoft stole it from Apple
 >> >
 >> > No, Apple *licensed* it from Xerox. That's why Xerox never sued 
Apple. They
 >> > were paid for letting Apple use their design. Unlike what 
Microsoft did.

 >>
 >> I apologize -- I've been misinformed all these years.  Did
 >> Xerox sue Microsoft?  I had always heard it was Apple who
 >> sued Microsoft.
 >
 >Xerox had no standing, because what MS copied without permission was
 >the Apple Lisa.

I thought Microsoft's defense was that Apple stole it from Xerox to 
begin with?


It was part of their excuse, but falls apart if you look at what 
actually happened.


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Re: [Finale] Splash screen

2009-02-12 Thread Phil Daley

At 2/12/2009 05:28 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

>On 12 Feb 2009 at 17:12, dhbailey wrote:
>
>> Blake Richardson wrote:
>> >> Actually it was original at the Xerox PARC (Palo Alto
>> >> Research Center) and Apple stole it from them and then
>> >> Microsoft stole it from Apple
>> >
>> > No, Apple *licensed* it from Xerox. That's why Xerox never sued 
Apple. They

>> > were paid for letting Apple use their design. Unlike what Microsoft did.
>>
>> I apologize -- I've been misinformed all these years.  Did
>> Xerox sue Microsoft?  I had always heard it was Apple who
>> sued Microsoft.
>
>Xerox had no standing, because what MS copied without permission was
>the Apple Lisa.

I thought Microsoft's defense was that Apple stole it from Xerox to begin with?


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Re: [Finale] HP and Down-bow

2009-02-12 Thread John Howell

At 1:37 PM -0500 2/12/09, Christopher Smith wrote:

On 12-Feb-09, at 12-Feb-09  12:11 PM, Adam Taylor wrote:

I'm working on the finale of my second symphony and I'm having some 
problem getting playback to work correctly. The final two chords 
for the strings are marked staccato with a down-bow on each chord, 
(and non-divisi for the double stops in the violins and violas). 
When I play it back with HP (FinWin2k6), as written, the final 
chords sound almost off. It's like the strings are hitting a grace 
note before the chord and it ruins the effect that I want.



There is no real documentation about how HP interprets different 
items. I imagine that the programmer saw that if there was a 
multiple stop with a downbow, that it might be likely played low 
strings first followed by higher strings (on violin or viola, that 
is!) so he programmed that in there.


On cello or bass as well, actually, but only on triple or quadruple 
stops.  Double stops are virtually never played that way, so if it 
was programmed that way it was remarkably ignorant programming.


John


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Re: [Finale] Splash screen

2009-02-12 Thread David W. Fenton
On 12 Feb 2009 at 17:12, dhbailey wrote:

> Blake Richardson wrote:
> >> Actually it was original at the Xerox PARC (Palo Alto
> >> Research Center) and Apple stole it from them and then
> >> Microsoft stole it from Apple
> > 
> > No, Apple *licensed* it from Xerox. That's why Xerox never sued Apple. They
> > were paid for letting Apple use their design. Unlike what Microsoft did.
> 
> I apologize -- I've been misinformed all these years.  Did 
> Xerox sue Microsoft?  I had always heard it was Apple who 
> sued Microsoft.

Xerox had no standing, because what MS copied without permission was 
the Apple Lisa.

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Re: [Finale] Splash screen

2009-02-12 Thread dhbailey

Blake Richardson wrote:

Actually it was original at the Xerox PARC (Palo Alto
Research Center) and Apple stole it from them and then
Microsoft stole it from Apple


No, Apple *licensed* it from Xerox. That's why Xerox never sued Apple. They
were paid for letting Apple use their design. Unlike what Microsoft did.




I apologize -- I've been misinformed all these years.  Did 
Xerox sue Microsoft?  I had always heard it was Apple who 
sued Microsoft.


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Re: [Finale] Splash screen

2009-02-12 Thread Blake Richardson
> Actually it was original at the Xerox PARC (Palo Alto
> Research Center) and Apple stole it from them and then
> Microsoft stole it from Apple

No, Apple *licensed* it from Xerox. That's why Xerox never sued Apple. They
were paid for letting Apple use their design. Unlike what Microsoft did.


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Re: [Finale] HP and Down-bow

2009-02-12 Thread Christopher Smith


On 12-Feb-09, at 12-Feb-09  12:11 PM, Adam Taylor wrote:

I'm working on the finale of my second symphony and I'm having some  
problem getting playback to work correctly. The final two chords  
for the strings are marked staccato with a down-bow on each chord,  
(and non-divisi for the double stops in the violins and violas).  
When I play it back with HP (FinWin2k6), as written, the final  
chords sound almost off. It's like the strings are hitting a grace  
note before the chord and it ruins the effect that I want. When I  
remove the down-bow marks from each chord and leave the staccatos,  
the chords playback just fine. Does HP interpret a down-bow symbol  
in a particular way? Is there any way to remove that  
interpretation? I checked the articulation definition and there's  
nothing there that would alter the performance, so it must be HP.


Good question.

There is no real documentation about how HP interprets different  
items. I imagine that the programmer saw that if there was a multiple  
stop with a downbow, that it might be likely played low strings first  
followed by higher strings (on violin or viola, that is!) so he  
programmed that in there. We don't know how to get rid of it,  
however, other than turning off HP or removing the offending item.  
This is only a guess.


Could you have a file that is only for playback purposes? I sometimes  
do that with my clients.


Christopher



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[Finale] HP and Down-bow

2009-02-12 Thread Adam Taylor
I'm working on the finale of my second symphony and I'm having some 
problem getting playback to work correctly. The final two chords for the 
strings are marked staccato with a down-bow on each chord, (and 
non-divisi for the double stops in the violins and violas). When I play 
it back with HP (FinWin2k6), as written, the final chords sound almost 
off. It's like the strings are hitting a grace note before the chord and 
it ruins the effect that I want. When I remove the down-bow marks from 
each chord and leave the staccatos, the chords playback just fine. Does 
HP interpret a down-bow symbol in a particular way? Is there any way to 
remove that interpretation? I checked the articulation definition and 
there's nothing there that would alter the performance, so it must be HP.


Adam
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[Finale] Deadly component in old files

2009-02-12 Thread Howey, Henry
I have come to believe that a successful updating of an old file requires the 
deletion of any measure or note-attached fermatas. Fermatas attached as 
articulations seem to be OK.

Also, they should be removed via the table of measure items. I have not tried 
this yet in 2009.

Almost all of the "fatal" files I've had have this problem.

Henry Howey
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Re: [Finale] Re: Desktop

2009-02-12 Thread Phil Daley

At 2/11/2009 04:17 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

>So, in reality, the order of your list ought to be:
>
>1981 -- Xerox Star
>1983 -- Apple Lisa
>1984 -- Apple Macintosh
>1985 -- Microsoft Windows 1
>1987 -- IBM OS/2 (April)
>1987 -- Microsoft Windows 2 (October)
>1990 -- Microsoft Windows 3
>1993 -- Microsoft Windows NT
>
>It may be that the fact that you had Windows 1 before Macintosh is
>because you remembered that MS started development on the UI
>technologies that were the basis for Windows 1 long before the
>release of the Macintosh in 1984.

Thanks for the clarifications.

Yes, I had used Windows V1 (for 4 hours before I deleted it) before I got a 
Macintosh.


I never used OS/2 V1 and forgot completely about that.  I first used V2.


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