Re: [Finale] Chord notation
I have never come across a triangle with a dash under it. What does it mean? I've gone on record before as opposing the use of the dash or hyphen, which I realize is fully established in jazz notation, because it can have two different meanings and can therefore be ambiguous. For example, C-7(-5), in which the first hyphen indicates a minor 7th chord while the second indicates an altered (flat) 5th. This particular case isn't especially ambiguous, but I can picture others which might be. Most of my use of chord symbols has been in commercial music (read pop if you're so inclined) rather than jazz, but no jazz player has ever been confused with alphanumeric symbols in my writing. Clarity above all (which means that it DOES make a difference knowing whom you're writing for!). John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Editing 2009 files in 2010
I seem to be running into major problems editing FinWin 2009 files in 2010. The files open correctly in 2010 and everything is where it should be. When I then start to edit the file using speedy entry, things go a little haywire after exiting speedy entry. First I get an error saying the program cannot initialize the printer. Then, the display colors turn off putting everything into black white. If I use CTRL-4 (respacing) I get the same error multiple times. Then I can no longer move the page around via dragging or the navigation bars. I haven't tried to figure out any work arounds. If I find one, I'll post it. The bug has been reported to MakeMusic. Good news is that a document started in 2010 seems to work just fine. James Gilbert ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Editing 2009 files in 2010
Oooh ... that's a little scary. However, I would be editing from Mac07, if that makes any difference ... I wonder. Please inform if it continues. I've been putting off some projects, so that I could start them in 2010 ... looks as if I may be happy that I did. Expecting it any day ... Dean On Jun 11, 2009, at 8:38 AM, James Gilbert wrote: I seem to be running into major problems editing FinWin 2009 files in 2010. The files open correctly in 2010 and everything is where it should be. When I then start to edit the file using speedy entry, things go a little haywire after exiting speedy entry. First I get an error saying the program cannot initialize the printer. Then, the display colors turn off putting everything into black white. If I use CTRL-4 (respacing) I get the same error multiple times. Then I can no longer move the page around via dragging or the navigation bars. I haven't tried to figure out any work arounds. If I find one, I'll post it. The bug has been reported to MakeMusic. Good news is that a document started in 2010 seems to work just fine. James Gilbert ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Canto ergo sum And, I'd rather be composing than decomposing Dean M. Estabrook http://deanestabrook.googlepages.com/home ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] 2010 bug
MM has confirmed that the missing baseline adjustment numbers is a bug, and that they will address it, presumably in a maintenance release. Chuck Sent from my iPhone On Jun 11, 2009, at 8:38 AM, James Gilbert james...@bellsouth.net wrote: I seem to be running into major problems editing FinWin 2009 files in 2010. The files open correctly in 2010 and everything is where it should be. When I then start to edit the file using speedy entry, things go a little haywire after exiting speedy entry. First I get an error saying the program cannot initialize the printer. Then, the display colors turn off putting everything into black white. If I use CTRL-4 (respacing) I get the same error multiple times. Then I can no longer move the page around via dragging or the navigation bars. I haven't tried to figure out any work arounds. If I find one, I'll post it. The bug has been reported to MakeMusic. Good news is that a document started in 2010 seems to work just fine. James Gilbert ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Oboe-part + Violin-clef + Basson cue notes at the beginning
Dear listers, how would you do it? In an Oboe part (wind orchestra file) I would like to show at the beginning 4 measures cue notes from bassoon part. I would like to show the violin clef first then a following bass clef for bassoon cue notes. Whatever I tried, Finale changes the violin clef at the beginning to a bass clef. But for me an oboe part beginning with an bass clef looks strange. I know I could add a measure etc but then I have to hide this measure not only in the oboe part but in all the other parts. Is there a better solution? Thanks Raimund Lintzen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Oboe-part + Violin-clef + Basson cue notes at the beginning
I have the same problem with this - please reply to the list, not privately. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Oboe-part + Violin-clef + Basson cue notes at the beginning
Lawrence Yates wrote: I have the same problem with this - please reply to the list, not privately. Cheers, Lawrence Insert a narrow measure before the first one, put it in the right clef, uncheck the measure number. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Oboe-part + Violin-clef + Basson cue notes at the beginning
I would create a mid-measure clef, set its evpu location to 1, then use the horizontal offset to move it. You'll have to fudge the first note of the cue. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Lawrence Yatesyateslawre...@googlemail.com wrote: I have the same problem with this - please reply to the list, not privately. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Editing 2009 files in 2010
I have been using 2010 for a couple of weeks now on a Vista 32bit machine and have not experienced any of this with any of the files I have edited from 2009. I just tried the same things with some 2003, 2004 and 2007 files and still no problems. I'm sure you have already tried rebooting your computer. Have you tried re-installing 2010? Rick Neal James Gilbert wrote: I seem to be running into major problems editing FinWin 2009 files in 2010. The files open correctly in 2010 and everything is where it should be. When I then start to edit the file using speedy entry, things go a little haywire after exiting speedy entry. First I get an error saying the program cannot initialize the printer. Then, the display colors turn off putting everything into black white. If I use CTRL-4 (respacing) I get the same error multiple times. Then I can no longer move the page around via dragging or the navigation bars. I haven't tried to figure out any work arounds. If I find one, I'll post it. The bug has been reported to MakeMusic. Good news is that a document started in 2010 seems to work just fine. James Gilbert ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Rick Neal Teacher, Composer, Arranger, Bassist, Guitarist rickm...@earthlink.net rickm...@gmail.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] FINALE 2010 and SIBELIUS 6
both arrived Tuesday. SIBELIUS arrived first so I began the install on VISTA premium business. There was a fatal error 9135 in each of four attempts. I did all of the prescribed checks (2+ hours) to no avail. I've contacted their support. no solution yet. This same thing happened with 5, 5.2 etc. Has anyone else had problems? 2010 went perfectly. For me the new percussion setup is great, especially how it handles older files! They now really work well. I'm not convinced about the new VST setup yet. Henry Howey Professor of Music Sam Houston State University Box 2208 Huntsville, TX 77341 (936) 294-1364 http://www.shsu.edu/music/faculty/howey.php Owner of FINALE Discussion List ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FINALE 2010 and SIBELIUS 6
I have no idea what to suggest for Sibelius and your Vista problems -- I installed in on my Vista Home Premium 64 notebook and it installed perfectly. Same on my XP-Pro desktop. Sorry. I'd suggest you do either of two things -- join the Sibelius group at yahoogroups and mention the problem there because Daniel Spreadbury may well have the answer for you. Or call the Sibelius tech support number -- they've been very helpful (and courteous and knowledgeable) the few times I've had to deal with them. I'm glad the new percussion stuff in 2010 is great -- that's one of the big reasons I upgraded. David Howey, Henry wrote: both arrived Tuesday. SIBELIUS arrived first so I began the install on VISTA premium business. There was a fatal error 9135 in each of four attempts. I did all of the prescribed checks (2+ hours) to no avail. I've contacted their support. no solution yet. This same thing happened with 5, 5.2 etc. Has anyone else had problems? 2010 went perfectly. For me the new percussion setup is great, especially how it handles older files! They now really work well. I'm not convinced about the new VST setup yet. Henry Howey Professor of Music Sam Houston State University Box 2208 Huntsville, TX 77341 (936) 294-1364 http://www.shsu.edu/music/faculty/howey.php Owner of FINALE Discussion List ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Editing 2009 files in 2010
I'm using Windows Vista home premium with service pack 1 installed. Intel core duo cpu, 2gb ram, Radeon X1300/X1500 video card. I'm not having trouble with any other programs and the system isn't sluggish or otherwise different than normal. I have rebooted a few times, re-installed at least once, maybe twice, I forget. Nothing changes, Finale is unusable for me with files created in previous versions (at least 2009, 2008 2007). The only anomaly I've had was in the reinstall program, the computer initially had trouble reading the DVD and I had to eject and reinsert the disc to get vista to recognize it. Considering Finale and the Garritan sounds are all working fine for new files, I don't consider that to be a problem. I'll mention again, for new files, new projects, I can find no problems. The percussion changes are nice and the VST instrument setup is a little easier to work with. Not only do I have the troubles I've described previously opening older files, I've replicated the problem when importing XML versions of the same files. I've tried other things to track down the problem with no luck. I'll keep playing with it to see if any older files I have will work. James Gilbert -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Neal Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:45 PM I have been using 2010 for a couple of weeks now on a Vista 32bit machine and have not experienced any of this with any of the files I have edited from 2009. I just tried the same things with some 2003, 2004 and 2007 files and still no problems. I'm sure you have already tried rebooting your computer. Have you tried re-installing 2010? Rick Neal ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Editing 2009 files in 2010
On 11 Jun 2009 at 18:32, James Gilbert wrote: Not only do I have the troubles I've described previously opening older files, I've replicated the problem when importing XML versions of the same files. I've tried other things to track down the problem with no luck. I'll keep playing with it to see if any older files I have will work. Do you have more than one printer installed? Even if it's just a PDF printer, try opening the old file in the old version, change the printer and print 1 page and save the file. Then try converting it to 2009. Printer data is stored in the file and is going to interact with the video card, and maybe the printer data structures are mucking things up. How it mucks up the XML export I can't say, but maybe whatever printer data/settings are causing the problems are captured in the XML export as well. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Editing 2009 files in 2010
I have two physical printers installed (one of which has 3 separate incarnations in the control panel printer settings - each with a different type of driver), plus I have a handful of virtual printers (eg. adobe pdf, xps document printer, etc). I tried your suggestion below as well as changing the default printer. I've also made sure my system is up to date with the latest Microsoft updates and also made sure my video card driver was up to date. Even with all that - and having to reboot more times than I care to in a day - the same problem: open a 2007, 2008 or 2009 file in 2010, try to edit in speedy entry and upon exiting speedy entry, problems as previously described happen and I can't use the program. In addition to XML files saved in 2009 also giving me the same errors, templates (as one might expect) created in 2009 also give me the same problems. I've also discovered that doing any note entry via simple entry in such files gives me the same problems. Oh well. On the one hand I hope I'm not the only one with this problem as that means it is so obscure a problem I may never see a fix but on the other hand I don't want others to have to go through what I'm going through. At least I can start from scratch without a problem. James Gilbert www.jamesgilbertmusic.com -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of David W. Fenton Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 7:39 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] Editing 2009 files in 2010 Do you have more than one printer installed? Even if it's just a PDF printer, try opening the old file in the old version, change the printer and print 1 page and save the file. Then try converting it to 2009. Printer data is stored in the file and is going to interact with the video card, and maybe the printer data structures are mucking things up. How it mucks up the XML export I can't say, but maybe whatever printer data/settings are causing the problems are captured in the XML export as well. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Mac Authorization problems
Has anyone else had problems losing Finale 2009 and 2010 authorizations on Mac computers running OS 10.5.7? I've had to reauthorize both versions twice and call customer service to clear out previous authorizations. Apparently Finale thinks you're using a different computer every time you reboot. Brian ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac Authorization problems
Just ran into it again today...4 times so far. On Jun 11, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Brian Williams wrote: Has anyone else had problems losing Finale 2009 and 2010 authorizations on Mac computers running OS 10.5.7? I've had to reauthorize both versions twice and call customer service to clear out previous authorizations. Apparently Finale thinks you're using a different computer every time you reboot. Brian ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac Authorization problems
Yeah, there's several threads in the Finale forums on MakeMusic's web site about it. I think I've reauthorized mine maybe 5 or 6 times. They say there's some kind of hardware thing and they were asking people to send in system profiles. On Jun 11, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Brian Williams wrote: Has anyone else had problems losing Finale 2009 and 2010 authorizations on Mac computers running OS 10.5.7? I've had to reauthorize both versions twice and call customer service to clear out previous authorizations. Apparently Finale thinks you're using a different computer every time you reboot. Brian ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Editing 2009 files in 2010
James: One thing that you might want to try, is to forward one of the offending files to someone else, and see if they have problems opening it in 2k10. I have a 2k9 test file that I created, that I'd be willing to send you, too, if you want to see if you have the problem with a file created by someone else. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac Authorization problems
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Re: [Finale] Editing 2009 files in 2010
James, I would be willing to try one of the offending files since I am unable to duplicate the problems you are having with any of my earlier files. Just send it on if you would like for me to try it. Rick Noel Stoutenburg wrote: James: One thing that you might want to try, is to forward one of the offending files to someone else, and see if they have problems opening it in 2k10. I have a 2k9 test file that I created, that I'd be willing to send you, too, if you want to see if you have the problem with a file created by someone else. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Rick Neal Teacher, Composer, Arranger, Bassist, Guitarist rickm...@earthlink.net rickm...@gmail.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Editing 2009 files in 2010
I just installed 2010 (Windows). Imported a 2009 file, imported a graphic (MUCH easier - jpg, gif or tif, no complaining about compression after editing a tif in MSPaint) and saved it, printed it, called it up again, no problems. I also have two actual printers and some virtual printers. Raymond Horton Rick Neal wrote: James, I would be willing to try one of the offending files since I am unable to duplicate the problems you are having with any of my earlier files. Just send it on if you would like for me to try it. Rick Noel Stoutenburg wrote: James: One thing that you might want to try, is to forward one of the offending files to someone else, and see if they have problems opening it in 2k10. I have a 2k9 test file that I created, that I'd be willing to send you, too, if you want to see if you have the problem with a file created by someone else. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac Authorization problems
Yeah, I've heard a lot about it. I'm on 10.4 still, so it hasn't hit me, but apparently it's common. Some preliminary theories have to do with whether Airport is open or not, and if external USB drives are connected or not, as apparently these two things make Finale think a different computer is running than originally. Open a case with tech support about this, as they need to track it down. Christopher On Jun 11, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Brian Williams wrote: Has anyone else had problems losing Finale 2009 and 2010 authorizations on Mac computers running OS 10.5.7? I've had to reauthorize both versions twice and call customer service to clear out previous authorizations. Apparently Finale thinks you're using a different computer every time you reboot. Brian ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
