Re: [Finale] Corrupted file?
Richard Huggins wrote: Status report: Nothing has worked once and for all. Weirdest thing I've ever seen. I think I may have found it. Since I don't have 2k7 installed, I opened the file in WIN FIN 2k9, and found I had the same experiences you described. The file appeared fine when I opened it, but as soon as I edited a measure, all the beats stacked up. What I finally found is that the file has automatic music spacing checked, and when I unchecked this, both speedy and simple entry worked exactly as I expected. I can't say for certain where automatic music spacing is in 2007; in 2006 its an item in the Edit menu. In 2009, it has been moved to Edit Program options edit. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Corrupted file?
On Wed Aug 25, at WednesdayAug 25 2:46 AM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Richard Huggins wrote: Status report: Nothing has worked once and for all. Weirdest thing I've ever seen. I think I may have found it. Since I don't have 2k7 installed, I opened the file in WIN FIN 2k9, and found I had the same experiences you described. The file appeared fine when I opened it, but as soon as I edited a measure, all the beats stacked up. What I finally found is that the file has automatic music spacing checked, and when I unchecked this, both speedy and simple entry worked exactly as I expected. I can't say for certain where automatic music spacing is in 2007; in 2006 its an item in the Edit menu. In 2009, it has been moved to Edit Program options edit. ns Sorry, but I don't think that is the problem. NO music spacing works at all, whether manually applied or automatically, except Time Signature Spacing, which is just bad. Turning off Automatic just means that you don't see the problem until you try to apply a manual spacing. The problem is still there. I still think that copying the contents to a new file is the best option. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Corrupted file?
Richard Huggins wrote: Anyone have a clue or a tip? One thing I would hope you would do for certain is to open a tech support ticket with MakeMusic! and submit the file to them. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Corrupted file?
Christopher Smith wrote: Sorry, but I don't think that is the problem. NO music spacing works at all, whether manually applied or automatically, except Time Signature Spacing, which is just bad. Turning off Automatic just means that you don't see the problem until you try to apply a manual spacing. The problem is still there. Maybe, but this is not my experience. I can reproduce the problem as Richard reports it in Win Fin 2009, until I disabled autmatic music spacing. When I re-enabled automatic music spacing, I could not reproduce the problem Richard reported. The copyright date of the work contained in the file suggest to me that this file was created in an earlier version of Finale; I'm wondering if a custom spacing library was used to create the file originally, which spacing file was not imported into MacFIN 2k7. IN the absence of a spacing library, then, the spacing would use the defaults (which have zero durations), which would give the result one sees when one edits the score. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Corrupted file?
I discovered that the human playback region is set to conclude at measure 61 and not the end of the piece. Did someone point that out already? The other problem I haven't discovered a solution as yet, either. Confounding problem and I'm anxious to hear what is causing it! Michael mmathew_musicp...@comcast.net mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ Phone and Fax: 503 641 6127 - Original Message - From: Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:38:31 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Corrupted file? Status report: Nothing has worked once and for all. Weirdest thing I've ever seen. 1. If I select Measure Tool and any measure, and if I change Use Beat Spacing to According to Time Signature, proper spacing is returned but only until the measure is touched again with Speedy or Simple, or even when a different measure is touched, which sometimes causes all other measures to pile their notes on beat 1. 2. I checked the time signatures to make sure something weird wasn't in effect. 3. I've respaced, rebeamed, updated and regurgitated all I know to do. If anyone would like to play with the file, here it is: http://www,richardhuggins.com/finale/we_gather.mus Thanks for all the suggestions: each one was tried or accounted for. Richard ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Corrupted file?
Hi Noel, Unless our programs are behaving differently (which is entirely possible!), I think I am right. The problem is that music spacing (except for time signature spacing) is not working. When auto music spacing is turned on, the symptom occurs every time a Speedy frame is exited. When auto spacing is turned off, you don't see the symptom right away, but the problem is still there because NO music spacing works except time sig spacing. There is still no way to space the piece properly (unless he hand tweaks EVERY note in every measure, gah!) Are you saying that when you turn OFF auto spacing that Note Spacing works for you? It doesn't for me; it still stacks up everything on beat one. I checked what I know about in the music spacing options, which seem correct. If there is some setting affecting music spacing that I missed, please let me know. I am still suspecting file corruption, rather than some setting gone awry. Christopher - Original Message - From: Noel Stoutenburg mjol...@ticnet.com Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:46 Subject: Re: [Finale] Corrupted file? To: finale@shsu.edu Christopher Smith wrote: Sorry, but I don't think that is the problem. NO music spacing works at all, whether manually applied or automatically, except Time Signature Spacing, which is just bad. Turning off Automatic just means that you don't see the problem until you try to apply a manual spacing. The problem is still there. Maybe, but this is not my experience. I can reproduce the problem as Richard reports it in Win Fin 2009, until I disabled autmatic music spacing. When I re-enabled automatic music spacing, I could not reproduce the problem Richard reported. The copyright date of the work contained in the file suggest to me that this file was created in an earlier version of Finale; I'm wondering if a custom spacing library was used to create the file originally, which spacing file was not imported into MacFIN 2k7. IN the absence of a spacing library, then, the spacing would use the defaults (which have zero durations), which would give the result one sees when one edits the score. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Corrupted file?
Christopher, First, there is a possibility that our respective installations are behaving a bit differently; while I own 2k7, it's not presently installed, and is not close enough at hand to conveniently do so, so I've done my investigations in 2k9. I doubt file corruption, partly I've had corrupted files, and they refuse to load. My impression is that there is a mechanism of some type in a Finale score file that tests for file integrity, and the fact that I can load Richard's file without a warning or error message leads me to believe that this is not an instance of file corruption. As to copying the contents of the file to a new document, I did this early on, and found the behavior the same in the file copied to, as in Richard's original. Subsequent investigation to my previous post disproves some of what I wrote earlier. But here is something I found subsequently. When I open Richard's score, and before doing anything else, select the measure tool, and open the measure attribute dialog tool, I see that there is one handle at the upper right bar line in each measure; there is no beat chart. As soon as I edit the measure (and in 2k9, it makes no difference whether the edit is done in simple or speedy entry), a beat chart is created for the edited measure, although there is no duration for the beats (which one can examine in 2k9 by selecting document options music spacing spacing widths duration allotments). Accordingly, all of the durations have a width of zero, and stack together. As confirmation, using hints from some of your posts, I was again able to reproduce the behavior Richard initially reported. When I subsequently loaded a music spacing library, (I tried two, and both worked) the problem dissappeared, and the music appears the way one would expect. I strongly suspect that Richard's problem will disappear when he loads a music spacing library to the file. ns christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: Hi Noel, Unless our programs are behaving differently (which is entirely possible!), I think I am right. The problem is that music spacing (except for time signature spacing) is not working. When auto music spacing is turned on, the symptom occurs every time a Speedy frame is exited. When auto spacing is turned off, you don't see the symptom right away, but the problem is still there because NO music spacing works except time sig spacing. There is still no way to space the piece properly (unless he hand tweaks EVERY note in every measure, gah!) Are you saying that when you turn OFF auto spacing that Note Spacing works for you? It doesn't for me; it still stacks up everything on beat one. I checked what I know about in the music spacing options, which seem correct. If there is some setting affecting music spacing that I missed, please let me know. I am still suspecting file corruption, rather than some setting gone awry. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] O.T. Google personal site prob.
Dean, I looked into this a bunch. Are you looking to just attach or have a player? Attaching is easy: just scroll to the bottom of a page and attach there. To make a player, check out https://sites.google.com/site/fredoniaeportfoliotemplate/performance Ignore the rest of the material as it is a template that I created for our programs here at Fredonia. There are a lot of other mp3 player options through the Gadgets you can use, though all of them have different levels of annoyance. Either the Quicktime or JW Player seem to be sleek and fairly easy to setup. Hope this helps! Matt On 8/24/10 1:51 PM, Dean M. Estabrook d.e...@comcast.net wrote: Just taking a shot ... maybe some of you know the answer to this: My personal website is done via Google Pages. It used to be (before they changed the format) to be very simple to attach an Mp3 file to a given web page I can no longer figure out how to do it. Anybody else know? I'm a Mac user ... OS 10.4.4 Thanks in advance ... Dean I have opened my soul/To let in the warmth of sound/Now my saving grace Adrian Estabrook, author And ... I remain intrigued that some folks who accept and practice, with absolute fidelity, the concepts of, say, feng shui and pyramids, should find the task of extending their leaps of faith to include an existent God so arduous. Dean M. Estabrook http://sites.google.com/site/deanestabrook/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] ASIO-capable external USB sound card for laptop
Has anyone a suggestion for this? There are several out there, but reviews seem mixed, and the authors at Amazon, etc. are suspicious. My laptop has Realtek drivers, but asio4all causes bluescreens of extreme severity. Also, my laptop is 64-bit, and Finale/ARIA must work in 32-bit.I have had 32/64 issues otherwise. I need an ASIO driver that will ignore the Realtek altogether. I found one, but its associated hardware is very backward-looking. Portability is important to me. Also, I only need to make great WAVs with GPO and Finale. Henry Howey Professor of Music Sam Houston State University Box 2208 Huntsville, TX 77341 (936) 294-1364 http://www.shsu.edu/music/faculty/howey.php Owner of FINALE Discussion List ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] O.T. Google personal site prob.
Hi Matt ... thanks yeah, I wanted to add mp3 files to one of the pages on my site, and have it available to play for any visitor. I've seen that scroll to the bottom of the page to attach, but at the bottom of my pages there is no such option. I did sort of solve the problem by opening up a New Page, and selecting the File Cabinet option ... at least on it, there is an attachment option which allowed me to browse and select the desired file, which does play when download is selected. I swear, the whole thing was so simple until Google screwed it up with the last improvements they made. I will also pursue the URL you suggested and see what that does for me Thanks for answering ... Dean On Aug 25, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Matt Wilson wrote: Dean, I looked into this a bunch. Are you looking to just attach or have a player? Attaching is easy: just scroll to the bottom of a page and attach there. To make a player, check out https://sites.google.com/site/fredoniaeportfoliotemplate/performance Ignore the rest of the material as it is a template that I created for our programs here at Fredonia. There are a lot of other mp3 player options through the Gadgets you can use, though all of them have different levels of annoyance. Either the Quicktime or JW Player seem to be sleek and fairly easy to setup. Hope this helps! Matt On 8/24/10 1:51 PM, Dean M. Estabrook d.e...@comcast.net wrote: Just taking a shot ... maybe some of you know the answer to this: My personal website is done via Google Pages. It used to be (before they changed the format) to be very simple to attach an Mp3 file to a given web page I can no longer figure out how to do it. Anybody else know? I'm a Mac user ... OS 10.4.4 Thanks in advance ... Dean I have opened my soul/To let in the warmth of sound/Now my saving grace Adrian Estabrook, author And ... I remain intrigued that some folks who accept and practice, with absolute fidelity, the concepts of, say, feng shui and pyramids, should find the task of extending their leaps of faith to include an existent God so arduous. Dean M. Estabrook http://sites.google.com/site/deanestabrook/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale I have opened my soul/To let in the warmth of sound/Now my saving grace Adrian Estabrook, author And ... I remain intrigued that some folks who accept and practice, with absolute fidelity, the concepts of, say, feng shui and pyramids, should find the task of extending their leaps of faith to include an existent God so arduous. Dean M. Estabrook http://sites.google.com/site/deanestabrook/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] guitar harmonics notation plug-in
Has anyone an alternative to the notation of guitar harmonics for tablature in finale? The diamonds keep canceling each other and invading each other's space. Is there a plug-in that address this problem? Thanks Michael mmathew_musicp...@comcast.net mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ Phone and Fax: 503 641 6127 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Corrupted file?
...add it takes another odd turn I opened a new document (a template) and inserted the misbehaving file into it. No problems so far, but here's the oddity: the bad file also is open and is behaving perfectly. Should I presume that the template had the spacing library needed, loaded it into the program and that because of that the old file is now spacing correctly? It seems useful to note that on no other file did I use the template, or use Insert to create a new copy of the file. Richard On Aug 25, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Florence + Michael wrote: Look at Document Options - Music Spacing - Spacing Widths. The file is set to use a spacing width table, but the spacing width table is empty. Either load a spacing width table from the libraries, or set the option use these values in the Spacing Widths dialog. Michael On 25 Aug 2010, at 05:14, Richard Huggins wrote: On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Richard Huggins wrote: That should have been http://www.richardhuggins.com/finale/we_gather.mus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Corrupted file?
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner! Looks like Noel and I were both right, but maybe Noel was a little righter. Music spacing wasn't working, because of a missing value or checkbox unclicked (one that I missed). This may have been a form of file corruption (not all corruptions cause the file not to load; some just change the state of click boxes or date fields) or a bad import from a previous version. In any case, Richard's problem should be solved. Congrats, Michael! christopher On Wed Aug 25, at WednesdayAug 25 1:35 PM, Florence + Michael wrote: Look at Document Options - Music Spacing - Spacing Widths. The file is set to use a spacing width table, but the spacing width table is empty. Either load a spacing width table from the libraries, or set the option use these values in the Spacing Widths dialog. Michael On 25 Aug 2010, at 05:14, Richard Huggins wrote: On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Richard Huggins wrote: That should have been http://www.richardhuggins.com/finale/we_gather.mus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Corrupted file?
It seems that both copies of the file ---the original misbehaving one and the new one created by pasting into a fresh document--- are working well now. I haven't been able to get the orig. to stack beat 1 anymore. I want to thank everybody who made suggestion,/ who downloaded my file and examined it, and who came up with important solutions. Richard On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner! Looks like Noel and I were both right, but maybe Noel was a little righter. Music spacing wasn't working, because of a missing value or checkbox unclicked (one that I missed). This may have been a form of file corruption (not all corruptions cause the file not to load; some just change the state of click boxes or date fields) or a bad import from a previous version. In any case, Richard's problem should be solved. Congrats, Michael! christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
