[Finale] OT: Behind Bars
Any thoughts on this? http://www.behindbarsnotation.co.uk/ Behind Bars is the indispensable reference book for composers, arrangers, teachers and students of composition, editors, and music processors. In the most thorough and painstakingly researched book to be published since the 1980s, specialist music editor Elaine Gould provides a comprehensive grounding in notational principles. Behind Bars covers everything from basic rules, conventions and themes to complex instrumental techniques, empowering the reader to prepare music with total clarity and precision. With the advent of computer technology, it has never been more important for musicians to have ready access to principles of best practice in this dynamic field, and this timely book will support the endeavours of software users and devotees of hand-copying alike. The author’s understanding of, and passion for, her subject has resulted in a book that is not only practical but also compellingly readable. Supported by 1,500 music examples of published scores from Bach to Xenakis, this seminal and all-encompassing guide encourages new standards of excellence and accuracy. ISBN10: 057151461 EAN13: 978-0571514564 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars
Looks good. I'd be interested to see it compared with Gardner read. Is it more comprehensive? How? David McKay On 23 September 2010 18:25, Bob Morabito bobmorab...@optonline.net wrote: Any thoughts on this? http://www.behindbarsnotation.co.uk/ Behind Bars is the indispensable reference book for composers, arrangers, teachers and students of composition, editors, and music processors. In the most thorough and painstakingly researched book to be published since the 1980s, specialist music editor Elaine Gould provides a comprehensive grounding in notational principles. Behind Bars covers everything from basic rules, conventions and themes to complex instrumental techniques, empowering the reader to prepare music with total clarity and precision. With the advent of computer technology, it has never been more important for musicians to have ready access to principles of best practice in this dynamic field, and this timely book will support the endeavours of software users and devotees of hand-copying alike. The author’s understanding of, and passion for, her subject has resulted in a book that is not only practical but also compellingly readable. Supported by 1,500 music examples of published scores from Bach to Xenakis, this seminal and all-encompassing guide encourages new standards of excellence and accuracy. ISBN10: 057151461 EAN13: 978-0571514564 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- www.mitchellcon.blogspot.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars
I have seen this book, both when it was being written, and on a recent trip to the UK. (Faber, who publish this book, are my publishers). Elaine Gould is a super, super fussy editor, which is exactly what is required of course from such a position. This is her labour of love covering about 20 years or so of work, if I remember correctly. It's a really comprehensive volume. It's not like what I remember of the Read book so much, i.e. in terms of being mostly about what symbols etc. to use, but also like the Ted Ross book. I thoroughly recommend this book - in fact I have made all my students buy it and have ordered it myself. Such volumes don't come around very often. Perhaps the easiest thing to see is the PDF with sample pages. I have it on my site at http://www.hindson.com.au/bb/ Faber have a special deal going at the moment whereby you can save $$/££ before 31 Dec 2010. Details are in the PDF. For the UK the brochure is at: http://behindbarsnotation.co.uk/brochure/blad.pdf Matthew On 23/09/10 6:25 PM, Bob Morabito wrote: Any thoughts on this? http://www.behindbarsnotation.co.uk/ Behind Bars is the indispensable reference book for composers, arrangers, teachers and students of composition, editors, and music processors. In the most thorough and painstakingly researched book to be published since the 1980s, specialist music editor Elaine Gould provides a comprehensive grounding in notational principles. Behind Bars covers everything from basic rules, conventions and themes to complex instrumental techniques, empowering the reader to prepare music with total clarity and precision. With the advent of computer technology, it has never been more important for musicians to have ready access to principles of best practice in this dynamic field, and this timely book will support the endeavours of software users and devotees of hand-copying alike. The author’s understanding of, and passion for, her subject has resulted in a book that is not only practical but also compellingly readable. Supported by 1,500 music examples of published scores from Bach to Xenakis, this seminal and all-encompassing guide encourages new standards of excellence and accuracy. ISBN10: 057151461 EAN13: 978-0571514564 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars
Thanks Matthew David McKay On 23 September 2010 19:19, Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.comwrote: I have seen this book, both when it was being written, and on a recent trip to the UK. (Faber, who publish this book, are my publishers). Elaine Gould is a super, super fussy editor, which is exactly what is required of course from such a position. This is her labour of love covering about 20 years or so of work, if I remember correctly. It's a really comprehensive volume. It's not like what I remember of the Read book so much, i.e. in terms of being mostly about what symbols etc. to use, but also like the Ted Ross book. I thoroughly recommend this book - in fact I have made all my students buy it and have ordered it myself. Such volumes don't come around very often. Perhaps the easiest thing to see is the PDF with sample pages. I have it on my site at http://www.hindson.com.au/bb/ Faber have a special deal going at the moment whereby you can save $$/££ before 31 Dec 2010. Details are in the PDF. For the UK the brochure is at: http://behindbarsnotation.co.uk/brochure/blad.pdf Matthew On 23/09/10 6:25 PM, Bob Morabito wrote: Any thoughts on this? http://www.behindbarsnotation.co.uk/ Behind Bars is the indispensable reference book for composers, arrangers, teachers and students of composition, editors, and music processors. In the most thorough and painstakingly researched book to be published since the 1980s, specialist music editor Elaine Gould provides a comprehensive grounding in notational principles. Behind Bars covers everything from basic rules, conventions and themes to complex instrumental techniques, empowering the reader to prepare music with total clarity and precision. With the advent of computer technology, it has never been more important for musicians to have ready access to principles of best practice in this dynamic field, and this timely book will support the endeavours of software users and devotees of hand-copying alike. The author’s understanding of, and passion for, her subject has resulted in a book that is not only practical but also compellingly readable. Supported by 1,500 music examples of published scores from Bach to Xenakis, this seminal and all-encompassing guide encourages new standards of excellence and accuracy. ISBN10: 057151461 EAN13: 978-0571514564 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- www.mitchellcon.blogspot.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars
One matter didn’t occur clearly to me when reading the site linked to by the OP: Is this book ready for immediate delivery if ordered now? (Shipping to Denmark from the UK isn’t much of a delay). Klaus --- On Thu, 9/23/10, Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 11:19 AM I have seen this book, both when it was being written, and on a recent trip to the UK. (Faber, who publish this book, are my publishers). Elaine Gould is a super, super fussy editor, which is exactly what is required of course from such a position. This is her labour of love covering about 20 years or so of work, if I remember correctly. It's a really comprehensive volume. It's not like what I remember of the Read book so much, i.e. in terms of being mostly about what symbols etc. to use, but also like the Ted Ross book. I thoroughly recommend this book - in fact I have made all my students buy it and have ordered it myself. Such volumes don't come around very often. Perhaps the easiest thing to see is the PDF with sample pages. I have it on my site at http://www.hindson.com.au/bb/ Faber have a special deal going at the moment whereby you can save $$/££ before 31 Dec 2010. Details are in the PDF. For the UK the brochure is at: http://behindbarsnotation.co.uk/brochure/blad.pdf Matthew On 23/09/10 6:25 PM, Bob Morabito wrote: Any thoughts on this? http://www.behindbarsnotation.co.uk/ Behind Bars is the indispensable reference book for composers, arrangers, teachers and students of composition, editors, and music processors. In the most thorough and painstakingly researched book to be published since the 1980s, specialist music editor Elaine Gould provides a comprehensive grounding in notational principles. Behind Bars covers everything from basic rules, conventions and themes to complex instrumental techniques, empowering the reader to prepare music with total clarity and precision. With the advent of computer technology, it has never been more important for musicians to have ready access to principles of best practice in this dynamic field, and this timely book will support the endeavours of software users and devotees of hand-copying alike. The author’s understanding of, and passion for, her subject has resulted in a book that is not only practical but also compellingly readable. Supported by 1,500 music examples of published scores from Bach to Xenakis, this seminal and all-encompassing guide encourages new standards of excellence and accuracy. ISBN10: 057151461 EAN13: 978-0571514564 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars
Behind Bars: The Definitive Guide to Music Notation by Elaine Gould Available 20 January 2011 : http://www.fabermusic.com/ On Sep 23, 2010, at 5:38 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: One matter didn’t occur clearly to me when reading the site linked to by the OP: Is this book ready for immediate delivery if ordered now? (Shipping to Denmark from the UK isn’t much of a delay). Klaus --- On Thu, 9/23/10, Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 11:19 AM I have seen this book, both when it was being written, and on a recent trip to the UK. (Faber, who publish this book, are my publishers). Elaine Gould is a super, super fussy editor, which is exactly what is required of course from such a position. This is her labour of love covering about 20 years or so of work, if I remember correctly. It's a really comprehensive volume. It's not like what I remember of the Read book so much, i.e. in terms of being mostly about what symbols etc. to use, but also like the Ted Ross book. I thoroughly recommend this book - in fact I have made all my students buy it and have ordered it myself. Such volumes don't come around very often. Perhaps the easiest thing to see is the PDF with sample pages. I have it on my site at http://www.hindson.com.au/bb/ Faber have a special deal going at the moment whereby you can save $$/££ before 31 Dec 2010. Details are in the PDF. For the UK the brochure is at: http:// behindbarsnotation.co.uk/brochure/blad.pdf Matthew On 23/09/10 6:25 PM, Bob Morabito wrote: Any thoughts on this? http://www.behindbarsnotation.co.uk/ Behind Bars is the indispensable reference book for composers, arrangers, teachers and students of composition, editors, and music processors. In the most thorough and painstakingly researched book to be published since the 1980s, specialist music editor Elaine Gould provides a comprehensive grounding in notational principles. Behind Bars covers everything from basic rules, conventions and themes to complex instrumental techniques, empowering the reader to prepare music with total clarity and precision. With the advent of computer technology, it has never been more important for musicians to have ready access to principles of best practice in this dynamic field, and this timely book will support the endeavours of software users and devotees of hand-copying alike. The author’s understanding of, and passion for, her subject has resulted in a book that is not only practical but also compellingly readable. Supported by 1,500 music examples of published scores from Bach to Xenakis, this seminal and all-encompassing guide encourages new standards of excellence and accuracy. ISBN10: 057151461 EAN13: 978-0571514564 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars
looks like a good reference for the foundations of notation. 14pp extract available: http://www.behindbarsnotation.co.uk/contents/ By far the best layout is one five-line stave, even if this entails placing notes on one or two ledger lines to create sufficient lines for the required instruments (see Table 1 (a)). the best layout is NOT by far a 5-line in any general sense. ledger lines should be avoided (except maybe the single ledger line in drumset parts). percussion multi-stave section in the example is terribly problematic. her recommended layout is bad, the example uses several instruments which could be done as an altered normal drum chart (bottom space upwards: BD TD SD 2BG) or possibly as a 5-line staff (notes on lines) and a separate 2-line staff for the temple block and woodblocks (notes on spaces). this is how the orch percer is going to organise their space (2 groups of instrument types), so having that reflected in the scoring will make the score easier to read. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars
There's a pre-publication offer through 31 December 2010: http://www.behindbarsnotation.co.uk/buying/ Wade Kotter On 9/23/2010 at 6:58 AM, in message f3a21784-686d-44ec-a7d3-6372c167a...@optonline.net, Bob Morabito bobmorab...@optonline.net wrote: Behind Bars: The Definitive Guide to Music Notation by Elaine Gould Available 20 January 2011 : http://www.fabermusic.com/ On Sep 23, 2010, at 5:38 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: One matter didn’t occur clearly to me when reading the site linked to by the OP: Is this book ready for immediate delivery if ordered now? (Shipping to Denmark from the UK isn’t much of a delay). Klaus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] TGTools Modify-Transfer Problem
Hi All, I'm using FinMac 2010b and TGTools 2.60. I am trying to use TGTools Modify-Transfer to copy the Layout of a Drum part to a Bass part but no matter what the settings are, the layout doesn't get copied. The drum part is almost all empty measures with slash notation and a few measures with some notes and rhythmic notation. I used to be able to do this and now I can't get it to work. I'd appreciate any suggestions of what to try. Thanks. **Leigh ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools Modify-Transfer Problem
Don't forget to update layout after running the plugin. You might need to toggle between scroll view and page view, too. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Leigh Daniels lcdpub...@comcast.netwrote: Hi All, I'm using FinMac 2010b and TGTools 2.60. I am trying to use TGTools Modify-Transfer to copy the Layout of a Drum part to a Bass part but no matter what the settings are, the layout doesn't get copied. The drum part is almost all empty measures with slash notation and a few measures with some notes and rhythmic notation. I used to be able to do this and now I can't get it to work. I'd appreciate any suggestions of what to try. Thanks. **Leigh ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools Modify-Transfer Problem
Two possibilities occur to me: Update Layout (often the culprit - this preference is often lost by Finale); or Create Multi-Measure Rests. Try those. Chuck On Sep 23, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Leigh Daniels wrote: Hi All, I'm using FinMac 2010b and TGTools 2.60. I am trying to use TGTools Modify-Transfer to copy the Layout of a Drum part to a Bass part but no matter what the settings are, the layout doesn't get copied. The drum part is almost all empty measures with slash notation and a few measures with some notes and rhythmic notation. I used to be able to do this and now I can't get it to work. I'd appreciate any suggestions of what to try. Thanks. **Leigh ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 Portland, OR 97209 phone: (503) 926-7952 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools Modify-Transfer Problem
Another one - I recall sometimes getting a message that Percussion staves are not supported. On Sep 23, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Two possibilities occur to me: Update Layout (often the culprit - this preference is often lost by Finale); or Create Multi-Measure Rests. Try those. Chuck On Sep 23, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Leigh Daniels wrote: Hi All, I'm using FinMac 2010b and TGTools 2.60. I am trying to use TGTools Modify-Transfer to copy the Layout of a Drum part to a Bass part but no matter what the settings are, the layout doesn't get copied. The drum part is almost all empty measures with slash notation and a few measures with some notes and rhythmic notation. I used to be able to do this and now I can't get it to work. I'd appreciate any suggestions of what to try. Thanks. **Leigh ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 Portland, OR 97209 phone: (503) 926-7952 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars
Heard back from Faber - the price is a pre-release price, sadly. So it won't be delivered until Jan. Matthew On 23/09/10 7:38 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: One matter didn’t occur clearly to me when reading the site linked to by the OP: Is this book ready for immediate delivery if ordered now? (Shipping to Denmark from the UK isn’t much of a delay). Klaus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars
Thank you! However this comes up as the lesser problem for me. The edition wants buyers to print an order form, fill it, and send it to them. I no longer have a legible handwriting (which was my reason for turning to the computer 19 years ago), as I don’t want to give away my credit card information to potential helpers, I see no immediate way to place an order. Klaus --- On Fri, 9/24/10, Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 1:41 AM Heard back from Faber - the price is a pre-release price, sadly. So it won't be delivered until Jan. Matthew On 23/09/10 7:38 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: One matter didn’t occur clearly to me when reading the site linked to by the OP: Is this book ready for immediate delivery if ordered now? (Shipping to Denmark from the UK isn’t much of a delay). Klaus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools Modify-Transfer Problem
Yeah. What he said. I wasn't fast enough! C. On Thu Sep 23, at ThursdaySep 23 3:28 PM, Ryan wrote: Don't forget to update layout after running the plugin. You might need to toggle between scroll view and page view, too. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Leigh Daniels lcdpub...@comcast.netwrote: Hi All, I'm using FinMac 2010b and TGTools 2.60. I am trying to use TGTools Modify-Transfer to copy the Layout of a Drum part to a Bass part but no matter what the settings are, the layout doesn't get copied. The drum part is almost all empty measures with slash notation and a few measures with some notes and rhythmic notation. I used to be able to do this and now I can't get it to work. I'd appreciate any suggestions of what to try. Thanks. **Leigh ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars
If you have the full version of Acrobat, you can run Form Field Recognition on the PDF which allows you to type in the information. (I just tried it and it works). Matthew On 24/09/10 10:03 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: Thank you! However this comes up as the lesser problem for me. The edition wants buyers to print an order form, fill it, and send it to them. I no longer have a legible handwriting (which was my reason for turning to the computer 19 years ago), as I don’t want to give away my credit card information to potential helpers, I see no immediate way to place an order. Klaus --- On Fri, 9/24/10, Matthew Hindson (gmail)mhindson2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matthew Hindson (gmail)mhindson2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 1:41 AM Heard back from Faber - the price is a pre-release price, sadly. So it won't be delivered until Jan. Matthew On 23/09/10 7:38 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: One matter didn’t occur clearly to me when reading the site linked to by the OP: Is this book ready for immediate delivery if ordered now? (Shipping to Denmark from the UK isn’t much of a delay). Klaus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars
Or just use the typewriter tool. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 23 Sep 2010, at 8:21 PM, Matthew Hindson (gmail) wrote: If you have the full version of Acrobat, you can run Form Field Recognition on the PDF which allows you to type in the information. (I just tried it and it works). Matthew On 24/09/10 10:03 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: Thank you! However this comes up as the lesser problem for me. The edition wants buyers to print an order form, fill it, and send it to them. I no longer have a legible handwriting (which was my reason for turning to the computer 19 years ago), as I don’t want to give away my credit card information to potential helpers, I see no immediate way to place an order. Klaus --- On Fri, 9/24/10, Matthew Hindson (gmail)mhindson2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matthew Hindson (gmail)mhindson2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 1:41 AM Heard back from Faber - the price is a pre-release price, sadly. So it won't be delivered until Jan. Matthew On 23/09/10 7:38 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: One matter didn’t occur clearly to me when reading the site linked to by the OP: Is this book ready for immediate delivery if ordered now? (Shipping to Denmark from the UK isn’t much of a delay). Klaus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars
Again thank you! I have the full Adobe Acrobat 8, but I only can make the form filling work partially. I see no response to checking the card box. The form doesn’t accommodate an international address. I wouldn’t like to send my card information in a mail attachment anyway. When I buy stuff from my US retailer I use to send my card informations from three different mail addresses. This edition just should have set up a buying page. I they didn’t want to pay for an in-house security system they, could use PayPal. Klaus in DK --- On Fri, 9/24/10, Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 2:21 AM If you have the full version of Acrobat, you can run Form Field Recognition on the PDF which allows you to type in the information. (I just tried it and it works). Matthew On 24/09/10 10:03 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: Thank you! However this comes up as the lesser problem for me. The edition wants buyers to print an order form, fill it, and send it to them. I no longer have a legible handwriting (which was my reason for turning to the computer 19 years ago), as I don’t want to give away my credit card information to potential helpers, I see no immediate way to place an order. Klaus --- On Fri, 9/24/10, Matthew Hindson (gmail)mhindson2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matthew Hindson (gmail)mhindson2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 1:41 AM Heard back from Faber - the price is a pre-release price, sadly. So it won't be delivered until Jan. Matthew On 23/09/10 7:38 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: One matter didn’t occur clearly to me when reading the site linked to by the OP: Is this book ready for immediate delivery if ordered now? (Shipping to Denmark from the UK isn’t much of a delay). Klaus ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale