Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: Converting to PDF on a PC

2010-11-21 Thread David H. Bailey
No, it doesn't assault the user with ads.  When you select doPDF as the 
printer driver, the program does its thing and presents you with a 
dialog box asking where you would like the pdf file saved.  In this box 
is a single ad for another of their products.  The only annoying thing I 
find with doPDF is that the dialog asking where to save the program 
doesn't always pop up on top of other windows, so it isn't always 
obvious that it is waiting for user input.  But that's a small annoyance 
and easy to put up with once learns to look for the window.


David H. Bailey


On 11/20/2010 1:01 PM, Allen Fisher wrote:

Hey David--

Looks cool. Does it assault you with ads like PDF 995 did?

I may start recommending this to friends and clients.

Allen

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On 5 Nov, 2010, at 5:26 PM, David H. Bailey wrote:


On 11/5/2010 5:41 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

On 5 Nov 2010 at 14:03, Ryan wrote:


What's the best way to create a PDF file on a PC? Trying to help a
friend, but I'm a Mac user. Looks like he'll have to get a 3rd party
program but I'm hoping someone can recommend a good share- or freeware
option.


The answer depends on the source from which the PDF is going to be
created.

For instance, if your friend has Office 2007 or 2010, PDF output is
included (though with early releases of 2007, you had to download it
and install it).

I have used PDF995 for years, and also use PDFCreator (though the
latter I use because I can programatically control it from VBA in my
Access database applications -- it also works as a standard PDF
printer, though).

I don't know if either of those options have any compatibility issues
with versions of Windows after WinXP, or if they run on 64-bit
Windows.



On my 64-bit Win7 machine I use a program called doPDF which is freeware and 
can be downloaded from http://www.dopdf.com/  -- on the PC, with such a program, it 
installs as a printer-driver which Ryan's friend would choose as the printer from 
whichever program he's trying to create PDF output from.  I realize most PC users would 
understand that, but I thought I would include it for Ryan's sake, since he's on a Mac.

doPDF allows you to select the folder to save the PDF file into.

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{Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-21 Thread David H. Bailey
I understand the use of clefs to transpose from concert pitch music to 
the differently keyed transposing instruments, but is there a chart 
somewhere which does things in reverse?


So that looking at a part for F horn, for example, which is printed in 
the treble clef, what clef would one use to show what the concert pitch 
note is?


David H. Bailey


On 11/20/2010 12:54 PM, Allen Fisher wrote:

My trumpet teacher at Ohio State in the early 1990's insisted that all his 
students learn clefs in order to transpose on sight. Drives all my friends 
nuts... :)

Allen

On 6 Nov, 2010, at 1:22 PM, John Howell wrote:


As a bonus, once you have learned to use the entire system of movable clefs, 
they are incredibly useful for transposing music.  Arthur Squires, who sang 
tenor with New York Pro Musica, had dead perfect pitch and could not sing music 
that was not in the key they were singing in, BUT he read the clefs and used 
them to transposed mentally.









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Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-21 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
C clef on the second line from the bottom equals horn in F. Add one flat.

Bass clef octave up equals horn in E (add 4 sharps) or horn in Eb (add 3 flats).

Alto clef equals horn in D (add 2 sharps) or horn in Db (add 5 flats).

Treble clef 8bassa equals horn in C.

Tenor clef equals horn in B natural (add 5 sharps - Brahms calls this Horn in 
tiefes H or something the like). Or it equals horn in Bb basso (ad 2 flats).

Klaus, who will rather transpose than read C clefs 



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 From: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
 Subject: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 1:24 PM
 I understand the use of clefs to
 transpose from concert pitch music to 
 the differently keyed transposing instruments, but is there
 a chart 
 somewhere which does things in reverse?
 
 So that looking at a part for F horn, for example, which is
 printed in 
 the treble clef, what clef would one use to show what the
 concert pitch 
 note is?
 
 David H. Bailey
 
 
 On 11/20/2010 12:54 PM, Allen Fisher wrote:
  My trumpet teacher at Ohio State in the early 1990's
 insisted that all his students learn clefs in order to
 transpose on sight. Drives all my friends nuts... :)
 
  Allen
 
  On 6 Nov, 2010, at 1:22 PM, John Howell wrote:
 
  As a bonus, once you have learned to use the
 entire system of movable clefs, they are incredibly useful
 for transposing music.  Arthur Squires, who sang tenor
 with New York Pro Musica, had dead perfect pitch and could
 not sing music that was not in the key they were singing in,
 BUT he read the clefs and used them to transposed mentally.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-21 Thread David H. Bailey
Thanks -- that's a big start.  I remember seeing a horn method/exercise 
book by Lorenzo Sansone years ago which had a full-page list of all the 
clefs and the transpositions they were good for but like a fool I 
neglected to photocopy it when I had the chance, and I don't live near a 
music store which has the various Sansone books for me to locate the 
correct one and on-line they're too expensive to buy them all hoping to 
find that chart again.


Thanks,
David H. Bailey


On 11/21/2010 7:52 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:

C clef on the second line from the bottom equals horn in F. Add one flat.

Bass clef octave up equals horn in E (add 4 sharps) or horn in Eb (add 3 flats).

Alto clef equals horn in D (add 2 sharps) or horn in Db (add 5 flats).

Treble clef 8bassa equals horn in C.

Tenor clef equals horn in B natural (add 5 sharps - Brahms calls this Horn in 
tiefes H or something the like). Or it equals horn in Bb basso (ad 2 flats).

Klaus, who will rather transpose than read C clefs



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From: David H. Baileydhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
Subject: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts
To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 1:24 PM
I understand the use of clefs to
transpose from concert pitch music to
the differently keyed transposing instruments, but is there
a chart
somewhere which does things in reverse?

So that looking at a part for F horn, for example, which is
printed in
the treble clef, what clef would one use to show what the
concert pitch
note is?

David H. Bailey


On 11/20/2010 12:54 PM, Allen Fisher wrote:

My trumpet teacher at Ohio State in the early 1990's

insisted that all his students learn clefs in order to
transpose on sight. Drives all my friends nuts... :)


Allen

On 6 Nov, 2010, at 1:22 PM, John Howell wrote:


As a bonus, once you have learned to use the

entire system of movable clefs, they are incredibly useful
for transposing music.  Arthur Squires, who sang tenor
with New York Pro Musica, had dead perfect pitch and could
not sing music that was not in the key they were singing in,
BUT he read the clefs and used them to transposed mentally.









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[Finale] (OT) ProTools

2010-11-21 Thread Richard Huggins
I had an arrangement recorded by a group that laid down tracks prior to the 
session where I was present. I noticed that the engineer was using PT. 
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Re: [Finale] (OT) ProTools

2010-11-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
And?

ProTools is pretty much the standard in a studio

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On Nov 21, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I had an arrangement recorded by a group that laid down tracks prior to the 
 session where I was present. I noticed that the engineer was using PT.
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Re: [Finale] (OT) ProTools

2010-11-21 Thread Randolph Peters
Richard Huggins wrote:

 I had an arrangement recorded by a group that laid down tracks prior to the 
 session where I was present. I noticed that the engineer was using PT. 

And then what happened?

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[Finale] Clefs in transposition

2010-11-21 Thread Howey, Henry
Clefs and key signatures can turn a transposed score in SHARPEYE into useful 
MusicXML.

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[Finale] OT: Darcy Argue in the Globe Mail

2010-11-21 Thread Randolph Peters
There is a nice article (and video) of Finale List member Darcy Argue in 
Saturday's Globe and Mail.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/music/darcy-argue-low-profile-canadian-jazzman/article1805941/

For those of you not familiar with the newspaper, The Globe and Mail is 
Canada's national Toronto paper.

Slight Finale content:
The video shows actual music parts most likely done using Finale.

-Randolph Peters
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Re: [Finale] headphone crashes

2010-11-21 Thread Steve Parker

FWIW...

Solved this by removing the .kext file for pocket audio.

Steve P.

On 19 Nov 2010, at 19:18, Steve Parker wrote:


Hi,
I'm finding that if I plug headphones (or unplug) whilst Finale is  
running FInale hangs with a spinning disc.

Can anyone think of how this can happen?
I would have thought that Finale would have no idea if headphones  
are plugged in or not?


Thanks!

Steve P.
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{Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: Darcy Argue in the Globe Mail

2010-11-21 Thread SN jef chippewa


For those of you not familiar with the newspaper, The Globe and Mail 
is Canada's **national Toronto** paper.


interesting but somehow appropriate geographical-political comment... 
if you ask torontonians.


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Re: [Finale] OT: Darcy Argue

2010-11-21 Thread timothy . price

Perhaps some on the list would enjoy this video of the
Secret Society, On Canvas

   http://video.whyy.org/video/1383585488/

tim


On Nov 21, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Randolph Peters wrote:

There is a nice article (and video) of Finale List member Darcy  
Argue in Saturday's Globe and Mail.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/music/darcy-argue-low- 
profile-canadian-jazzman/article1805941/


For those of you not familiar with the newspaper, The Globe and  
Mail is Canada's national Toronto paper.


Slight Finale content:
The video shows actual music parts most likely done using Finale.

-Randolph Peters
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Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-21 Thread John Howell

At 7:24 AM -0500 11/21/10, David H. Bailey wrote:
I understand the use of clefs to transpose from concert pitch music 
to the differently keyed transposing instruments, but is there a 
chart somewhere which does things in reverse?


So that looking at a part for F horn, for example, which is printed 
in the treble clef, what clef would one use to show what the concert 
pitch note is?


Not sure what you mean by in reverse, David, but for the example 
you give both F horn and English horn--any F instrument, 
actually--you imagine its being in mezzo-soprano clef:  middle C on 
the 2nd line.  And in fact I DO think that way when I enter horn 
notes directly into a transposed score.  For Eb alto sax I think bass 
clef, but have to remember the octave transposition.


The one I've never quite figured out a trick for is Clarinet in A. 
It's just a minor third transposition, and shouldn't be that 
difficult, but my mind just doesn't wrap around it.  Let's see, a 
written C5 sounds A4, so I need a clef that puts A4 on the 3rd space. 
French violin clef doesn't work.  It has to be in the other 
direction.  AHA!!!  Soprano clef is the answer!!!  (Middle C on the 
bottom line.)  It's just that that's one clef I haven't used much, 
since most early music is more likely to use alto and tenor clefs. 
But Bach used it all the time.  I will now remember that (and try to 
figure out the key signature adjustment-- +3 sharps, I think).


John


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