Thanks -- that's a big start. I remember seeing a horn method/exercise book by Lorenzo Sansone years ago which had a full-page list of all the clefs and the transpositions they were good for but like a fool I neglected to photocopy it when I had the chance, and I don't live near a music store which has the various Sansone books for me to locate the correct one and on-line they're too expensive to buy them all hoping to find that chart again.

Thanks,
David H. Bailey


On 11/21/2010 7:52 AM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:
C clef on the second line from the bottom equals horn in F. Add one flat.

Bass clef octave up equals horn in E (add 4 sharps) or horn in Eb (add 3 flats).

Alto clef equals horn in D (add 2 sharps) or horn in Db (add 5 flats).

Treble clef 8bassa equals horn in C.

Tenor clef equals horn in B natural (add 5 sharps - Brahms calls this Horn in 
tiefes H or something the like). Or it equals horn in Bb basso (ad 2 flats).

Klaus, who will rather transpose than read C clefs



--- On Sun, 11/21/10, David H. Bailey<[email protected]>  
wrote:

From: David H. Bailey<[email protected]>
Subject: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 1:24 PM
I understand the use of clefs to
transpose from concert pitch music to
the differently keyed transposing instruments, but is there
a chart
somewhere which does things in reverse?

So that looking at a part for F horn, for example, which is
printed in
the treble clef, what clef would one use to show what the
concert pitch
note is?

David H. Bailey


On 11/20/2010 12:54 PM, Allen Fisher wrote:
My trumpet teacher at Ohio State in the early 1990's
insisted that all his students learn clefs in order to
transpose on sight. Drives all my friends nuts... :)

Allen

On 6 Nov, 2010, at 1:22 PM, John Howell wrote:

As a bonus, once you have learned to use the
entire system of movable clefs, they are incredibly useful
for transposing music.  Arthur Squires, who sang tenor
with New York Pro Musica, had dead perfect pitch and could
not sing music that was not in the key they were singing in,
BUT he read the clefs and used them to transposed mentally.








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