Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs
On 3/27/2012 11:15 PM, Paul Hayden wrote: Apologies if you also subscribe to the SCI list: I've been selling my compositions as paper sheet music for years, but I'm getting more and more requests for PDFs. I feel a little uneasy about this since a PDF (even with a password) can be posted online or emailed to anyone who wants it for free. Any thoughts on this from publishers, composers, or engravers currently selling PDFs? Thanks for any insight! I will second what Darcy and Mark have said -- as a consumer of printed music, one of the first things I do is to scan the music into a PDF file and put it on my iPad. If it's a work for a brass quintet I'm in, I'll scan my part, if it's a score I'll scan the whole thing so that I can have it with me to study or perform from whenever/wherever I want. If it's an exercise book or a solo work, the same applies. I would much prefer to purchase things already in PDF format. I don't sell much music online, so I can't speak from experience, but with so many people having all-in-one printers, whether we sell printed music or PDF versions, there is nothing we can do to prevent piracy. I never share the scanned music I create from purchased music, just as back in the day I never shared cassettes of LPs I purchased, even though creating a cassette was one of the first things I did so that I could listen in my car. Convenience is the key, as both Darcy and Mark have said. Honesty is something about which we just have to have faith in our customers. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs
At 10:15 PM -0500 3/27/12, Paul Hayden wrote: Apologies if you also subscribe to the SCI list: I've been selling my compositions as paper sheet music for years, but I'm getting more and more requests for PDFs. I feel a little uneasy about this since a PDF (even with a password) can be posted online or emailed to anyone who wants it for free. Any thoughts on this from publishers, composers, or engravers currently selling PDFs? Thanks for any insight! Paul Hayden Paul: If you aren't comfortable with this, then of course you shouldn't do it. But I'm convinced that this is the direction music publishing is going to go in, and probably sooner rather than later. Personally I welcome the technology. It makes things SO much easier and more efficient for me as an arranger and sometime composer. A score and parts can be sent in seconds--minutes at the outside--without any need for all the complications of printing, storage, handling and mailing. And I do think one has to realize that we ALL have to learn to trust people to do the right thing, especially since any paper music can be easily run though a copy machine with no one the wiser. You are already trusting those who buy your music on paper not to do that, even though it's inevitable that SOME people will abuse your trust. So all you're really saying is that modern technology just makes it EASIER to cheat, just as it makes it easier and more efficient to distribute your work. You might not agree, nor may others in this forum, and that's certainly fair enough. But more and more composers are going to self-publishing AND to distribution electronically. Absolute control over our product is not possible unless you are willing never to distribute it at all. Or so it seems to me. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music School of Performing Arts Cinema College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences 290 College Ave., Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html Machen Sie es, wie Sie wollen, machen Sie es nur schön. (Do it as you like, just make it beautiful!) --Johannes Brahms ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs
I have been selling my music as PDFs for a while now and was wondering the same things. I recently ordered some music from another composer by means of PDF and email, and noticed that when I got it there was a note at the bottom of each page 1 below the copyright notice: This score and set of parts is for the exclusive use of Christopher Smith. This way, if it shows up online, he knows who went ahead and pirated it. Now, this might seem a bit extreme, along the lines of one of my colleagues who stamped every piece of sheet music he owns with a rubber stamp reading Stolen from the library of [his name]. Every time I play in his band I get that ridiculous stamp in my line of sight. What an assumption! Christopher On Tue Mar 27, at TuesdayMar 27 11:15 PM, Paul Hayden wrote: Apologies if you also subscribe to the SCI list: I've been selling my compositions as paper sheet music for years, but I'm getting more and more requests for PDFs. I feel a little uneasy about this since a PDF (even with a password) can be posted online or emailed to anyone who wants it for free. Any thoughts on this from publishers, composers, or engravers currently selling PDFs? Thanks for any insight! Paul Hayden Magnolia Music Press www.paulhayden.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs
On 3/28/2012 7:49 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: I have been selling my music as PDFs for a while now and was wondering the same things. I recently ordered some music from another composer by means of PDF and email, and noticed that when I got it there was a note at the bottom of each page 1 below the copyright notice: This score and set of parts is for the exclusive use of Christopher Smith. This way, if it shows up online, he knows who went ahead and pirated it. Unless the pirates also have a pirated version of the full Adobe Acrobat and edit the PDF to remove that line. :-) -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs
At 3/28/2012 09:26 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: On 3/28/2012 7:49 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: I have been selling my music as PDFs for a while now and was wondering the same things. I recently ordered some music from another composer by means of PDF and email, and noticed that when I got it there was a note at the bottom of each page 1 below the copyright notice: This score and set of parts is for the exclusive use of Christopher Smith. This way, if it shows up online, he knows who went ahead and pirated it. Unless the pirates also have a pirated version of the full Adobe Acrobat and edit the PDF to remove that line. :-) My thoughts exactly!! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs
On 3/28/2012 9:26 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: Unless the pirates also have a pirated version of the full Adobe Acrobat and edit the PDF to remove that line. :-) You can put all kinds of protections on a PDF, if you have full Acrobat or something similar. For example, if you're sending out a perusal score, you can make it so that the PDF won't print. And you can also protect the PDF so that it's not editable. Are there ways around these protections? Yes, certainly. But it means that the people who pirate your work will be only those who are really determined to do so, not those who are just provided with a casual opportunity. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs
I think sometimes that selling PDFs might be trying to monetize the wrong thing. Selling nice printed copies is fine because not everyone can print properly-sized sheets, nor has the ability to bind a score, nor has the desire to put together a set of parts. Also, organizations, schools and libraries like the work already done. (In 2010 I had an engraving job where, rather than download print the PDFs thenselves, an orchestra in Germany had me print, bind and *overnight* 8 kilos of score and parts from Vermont via FedEx.) Selling PDFs might be profitable for some. I doubt it would be for me because of the accounting time, the maintenance of sales software, etc. And those few that are for sale don't sell as physical copies or PDFs. I have three beautiful ones on Lulu http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/bathory that have gone nowhere, including the one available for $.99 as a PDF. My recordings at Kunaki are selling better (they handle accounting), but I have actually made more sales of the downloads of these http://kunaki.com/msales.asp?PublisherId=130775 I can see my scores and parts, all freely available, are downloaded often. And to me it's much more gratifying to receive an announcement of a performance, a recording, and a fatter ASCAP royalty check (I got a surprisingly tidy publisher's check a few days ago for performances I wasn't even aware of from last year). Overall I would much rather be writing music, finishing nice-looking scores, and making them available easily than being a sales clerk, customer service rep, web developer, and accountant. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs (ot)
On Mar 28, 2012, at 12:03 AM, John Howell wrote: And I do think one has to realize that we ALL have to learn to trust people to do the right thing, Am glad that this observation is voiced by a musician. ( notice: Goldman Sachs, et al ) Perhaps this is the core issue facing a society that wishes to practice freedom. It is the loss of honorable behavior, and that assumed loss, which is threatening our country, in many ways. John illustrates how nice it will be when all people realize that honest behavior, ( even when stealing would be easy and without a chance of being caught) is key to their own freedom. People would seldom consider theft sort of like the farm stands here, with lots of vegetables, flowers, honey, etc., a sign showing the cost of each, a box of money, but no farmer to watch it all. Reintroducing this code of conduct into our culture has been an interest for a while. Here is what I have discovered. Our Flag Created in 1789 After the Constitutional Convention of 1787 had produced the Constitution for ratification by the thirteen colonies, two years went by without enough state ratifying it to make it law. They had to add the first 10 amendments and also adopt a code of conduct which would be a voluntary oath for all citizens to uphold. It was their belief that for a nation to be free, it had to have trust, and to have trust, people had to uphold honor. Without honor there is no freedom. To the degree that there is honor, there is untrammeled freedom. Honorable behavior created the atmosphere in which freedom can thrive. If any individual acts dishonorably, they are traitors to the dream of a free society and should not be tolerated. Colors: White: The background banner representing purity and innocence, lack of guile. Red: The stripes applied to the white banner: Cheer, Hardiness and Valor (worthiness) Blue: Honor, Vigilance, Perseverance, Justice 13 Stripes: 13 colonies (7 red, 6 white) A blue field with one white star for each state. As in the Declaration of Independence: We pledge our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. Old Glory (lyrics) by Timothy K. Price Let me tell you a story, About our flag, old glory, The stars and stripes of red, white, and blue; And of its creation, ThIs symbol for our nation, And what it mean to folks like me and you. They took the purity of white, The brightly shining light All the colors in the spirit of our souls For our banner of trust, Our pledge of good intention, For all who live beneath her to uphold. They emblazoned her with red, Stripes which clearly said With a boisterous, cheering humor, “Have no fear. We are hardy souls of valor, Worthy our intent, To do good is the reason we are here. We are many joined as one, Honest folk, and fair, For honor is the air that we breathe; So to represent our nation, Took a patch of blue sky And placed in it a starry constellation. With a star for every state Each joining in its fate, A union which no one will leave, Finding happiness in freedom, This flag is our dream That none who live among us shall deceive. Our flag is made from scraps, For frugal is our way. Simple living lets others simply live. We will shame you for your riches, Scorn your vanity, If greed should get the better of your soul. There’s salvation in compassion, Poverty in greed, So what we have we share with loving care. We understand hard work, Have no tolerance for cheats, Politician in their office should beware. When we pledge our allegiance, We pledge a way of life, To be true to the meaning of our flag. We pledge a life of honor, To be truthful and fair, This is our way... here in the USA. So this is my story, About our flag, old glory, The stars and strips of red, white, and blue. And of its creation, ThIs symbol of our nation, and what it mean to folks like me and you _ Would like to see this taught in schools to return content to the Pledge of Allegiance. timothy.price timothy.pr...@valley.net ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs (ot)
Hi Timothy, You do know that this list goes beyond US borders, right? Just saying. -Randolph Peters On 2012-03-28, at 8:03 AM, timothy.price wrote: [snip] Our Flag Created in 1789 After the Constitutional Convention of 1787 had produced the Constitution for ratification by the thirteen colonies, two years went by without enough state ratifying it to make it law. They had to add the first 10 amendments and also adopt a code of conduct which would be a voluntary oath for all citizens to uphold. It was their belief that for a nation to be free, it had to have trust, and to have trust, people had to uphold honor. Without honor there is no freedom. To the degree that there is honor, there is untrammeled freedom. Honorable behavior created the atmosphere in which freedom can thrive. If any individual acts dishonorably, they are traitors to the dream of a free society and should not be tolerated. Colors: White: The background banner representing purity and innocence, lack of guile. Red: The stripes applied to the white banner: Cheer, Hardiness and Valor (worthiness) Blue: Honor, Vigilance, Perseverance, Justice 13 Stripes: 13 colonies (7 red, 6 white) A blue field with one white star for each state. As in the Declaration of Independence: We pledge our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. Old Glory (lyrics) by Timothy K. Price Let me tell you a story, About our flag, old glory, The stars and stripes of red, white, and blue; And of its creation, ThIs symbol for our nation, And what it mean to folks like me and you. They took the purity of white, The brightly shining light All the colors in the spirit of our souls For our banner of trust, Our pledge of good intention, For all who live beneath her to uphold. They emblazoned her with red, Stripes which clearly said With a boisterous, cheering humor, “Have no fear. We are hardy souls of valor, Worthy our intent, To do good is the reason we are here. We are many joined as one, Honest folk, and fair, For honor is the air that we breathe; So to represent our nation, Took a patch of blue sky And placed in it a starry constellation. With a star for every state Each joining in its fate, A union which no one will leave, Finding happiness in freedom, This flag is our dream That none who live among us shall deceive. Our flag is made from scraps, For frugal is our way. Simple living lets others simply live. We will shame you for your riches, Scorn your vanity, If greed should get the better of your soul. There’s salvation in compassion, Poverty in greed, So what we have we share with loving care. We understand hard work, Have no tolerance for cheats, Politician in their office should beware. When we pledge our allegiance, We pledge a way of life, To be true to the meaning of our flag. We pledge a life of honor, To be truthful and fair, This is our way... here in the USA. So this is my story, About our flag, old glory, The stars and strips of red, white, and blue. And of its creation, ThIs symbol of our nation, and what it mean to folks like me and you _ Would like to see this taught in schools to return content to the Pledge of Allegiance. timothy.price timothy.pr...@valley.net ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs
Wow -- great replies! Your comments bring up a couple of other issues: 1. I assume that PDFs should be priced lower than paper copies. If they're not, I would think there would be a greater incentive to pirate the PDF rather than just buy your own copy. Does 50% lower sound right? 2. Adam Engst (TidBITS founder) was kind enough to offer some advice: don't bother password protecting your PDFs -- they're easily removed. Even so, he said that it's probably a good idea to stamp (in Acrobat) the PDF with the price and buyer's name. This is similar to what Christopher Smith wrote (This score and set of parts is for the exclusive use of [the buyer]). Paul Hayden Magnolia Music Press www.paulhayden.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs
I'm curious about the price difference also. Granted, the expense of paper and ink/toner are not applicable when distributing PDFs, but I would think that the real value is the content, not the physical materials. On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Paul Hayden phayden...@cox.net wrote: Wow -- great replies! Your comments bring up a couple of other issues: 1. I assume that PDFs should be priced lower than paper copies. If they're not, I would think there would be a greater incentive to pirate the PDF rather than just buy your own copy. Does 50% lower sound right? 2. Adam Engst (TidBITS founder) was kind enough to offer some advice: don't bother password protecting your PDFs -- they're easily removed. Even so, he said that it's probably a good idea to stamp (in Acrobat) the PDF with the price and buyer's name. This is similar to what Christopher Smith wrote (This score and set of parts is for the exclusive use of [the buyer]). Paul Hayden Magnolia Music Press www.paulhayden.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs
There is also a print on command function that some sellers use. It does not deliver pdfs but gives the buyer the ability to print one copy on his or her printer. You can see this at places like http://www.musicnotes.com/ which I have used a few times to get pop songs I needed quickly. It works quite well. There are usually some free songs at these sites if you want to try it out. This is less attractive than are pdfs to the buyer but can still be obtained nearly instantly. The advantages to the seller are obvious, but I have no idea how to set something like this up. The bad part of this is less choice for the buyer. I recently attempted to buy an orchestration for a church anthem at J W Pepper.com. (I do most of the arrangements for church myself and email pdfs of parts to a few of the players ahead of time. I confess that I thought if I downloaded the orchestration I thought I might email pdfs of a few of the individual parts to individual players, which is a violation but likely not one to cause a piracy problem). I paid the same price as I would have for the printed music (minus shipping), then went to the menu to print. But I didn't print it - if I had started the print operation it would have automatically printed multiple copies of each of the 12-page string parts (for string players I don't have in my church) that it had decided I needed, etc. etc - I could have blown a good part of my toner cartridge on this piece, just for the benefit of having it a few days early. I cancelled the on-line order - if I am paying the same price I will use their ink and paper. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious about the price difference also. Granted, the expense of paper and ink/toner are not applicable when distributing PDFs, but I would think that the real value is the content, not the physical materials. On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Paul Hayden phayden...@cox.net wrote: Wow -- great replies! Your comments bring up a couple of other issues: 1. I assume that PDFs should be priced lower than paper copies. If they're not, I would think there would be a greater incentive to pirate the PDF rather than just buy your own copy. Does 50% lower sound right? 2. Adam Engst (TidBITS founder) was kind enough to offer some advice: don't bother password protecting your PDFs -- they're easily removed. Even so, he said that it's probably a good idea to stamp (in Acrobat) the PDF with the price and buyer's name. This is similar to what Christopher Smith wrote (This score and set of parts is for the exclusive use of [the buyer]). Paul Hayden Magnolia Music Press www.paulhayden.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs
On Wed, March 28, 2012 3:13 pm, Raymond Horton wrote: There is also a print on command function that some sellers use. It does not deliver pdfs but gives the buyer the ability to print one copy on his or her printer. You can see this at places like http://www.musicnotes.com/ I've used them. Print-on-command sites will use your default printer ... which you can set to a PDF virtual printer and print a PDF set for re-use at any time. I use docPrint Pro on Windows with my own stuff when I want to print it to a different size paper for collating into a collection. PDF prints nicely to PDF on different size virtual paper. :) Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs
2. Adam Engst (TidBITS founder) was kind enough to offer some advice: don't bother password protecting your PDFs -- they're easily removed. I'm not sure I agree with that. Although it's true that someone who wants to remove a password can easily do so, it still sets up a situation where it requires a deliberate effort. It's the same idea as putting up a small fence and a no trespassing sign. Anyone who wants to get in can easily ignore the sign and hop over the fence, but then they'll know they're going somewhere they're not supposed to. With an unprotected PDF, a lazy or thoughtless person -- and face it, most of us are lazy or thoughtless at least some of the time -- might just assume it's a free document to be printed or passed around at will. When they're asked for a password, they'll know that its supposed to be proprietary. mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs
I've been selling my compositions as paper sheet music for years, but I'm getting more and more requests for PDFs. I feel a little uneasy about this since a PDF (even with a password) can be posted online or emailed to anyone who wants it for free. Any thoughts on this from publishers, composers, or engravers currently selling PDFs? Thanks for any insight! Paul Hayden Magnolia Music Press www.paulhayden.com For most of us, the royalties from performing far outstrip the income from selling scores. Look at the phenomenal success of In C, which was a free score inserted in the original LP packaging materials. Ok, maybe that's not a great example for a variety of reasons, but the principle is the same. My publisher (ACA) keeps pdfs of our music. Printing on demand is fast and easy (and can take place anywhere). They also like to sell pdfs -- minimal costs, more profit. I am reluctant to allow it because I think a nicely printed score on good larger-than-8.5x11-paper with a good binding means the performance experience is a better one, and can translate into more performances -- or at least something staying in a performer's library. On the other hand, I'm meeting performers, particularly younger ones, who want music ONLY in pdf format. And for perusal scores, there is nothing better. I think we'll come to a time fairly soon when most performers will have an iPad-like device with a full library. The software out there now already allows annotations, has good foot-pedal page turners. But I personally still REALLY like paper. Even when I get something for quick study from imslp.org, if I want to do anything serious with it, I print and bind it on nice, oversize paper and staple bind. Finally, I also understand pdfs as a wonderful way to get things quickly around the world. If I'm traveling to a large ensemble performance, I no longer feel the need to bring along a set of backup parts. If someone loses a part, I can get the pdf almost instantly, and print a replacement. My instructions to my publisher are not to advertise that they will sell a pdf of my music. But if someone insists, I tell them to go ahead and do it. David Froom ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] EPS problems in 2008
I have an old document made in FinMac 2008. I need to make EPS files. However, only the first page exports correctly. The other pages of the document don't. Any idea as to what would be causing this? I've done a font check, and removed document fonts that aren't on the system. This is a real mystery. Thanks. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] blanked out files
Dear Finalelist, I went in to make some corrections today on a file that was done 2006, in Finale 2004B. 1. 2011 would not convert it. 2. I went back to 2004B and it wouldn't open. (It's a black rectangle.) 3. Sent he file to a techie - she opened it and sent it back and my computer could not decode her file, even the file's name. Then a second different attempt - no dice. she sent a final one whose name came through properly but it wouldn't open either. 4. she and I had to leave for appointments. I am going to ask her to resend the last one, which has disappeared from my desktop, and try again. 5. the concert is in 2 weeks. Any help would be greatly appreciated!! Katherine Hoover ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs
Some others have mentioned a similar philosophy: the notice on the bottom of the file is like a No Trespassing sign; it won't stop a determined thief, but will keep honest people reasonably honest. It also causes an extra step if you intend to pirate them, which may be enough. 50% lower seems about right for an original composition, roughly equal to the retail markup charged by a store. My reduction is 25% off if I don't have to print/bind/mail it, but I deal with different kinds of music. I charge for printing to orchestra paper and taping/binding, and true enough, some ensembles have a healthy budget and would rather not have the bother of having to print out themselves. I'll give them the option. Of course, I am not dealing with anything approaching even a small volume; most of my sales are one-off. Christopher On Wed Mar 28, at WednesdayMar 28 2:38 PM, Paul Hayden wrote: Wow -- great replies! Your comments bring up a couple of other issues: 1. I assume that PDFs should be priced lower than paper copies. If they're not, I would think there would be a greater incentive to pirate the PDF rather than just buy your own copy. Does 50% lower sound right? 2. Adam Engst (TidBITS founder) was kind enough to offer some advice: don't bother password protecting your PDFs -- they're easily removed. Even so, he said that it's probably a good idea to stamp (in Acrobat) the PDF with the price and buyer's name. This is similar to what Christopher Smith wrote (This score and set of parts is for the exclusive use of [the buyer]). Paul Hayden ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: Selling PDFs
When I try to print to CutePDF or other PDF virtual printers on my Windows PC from these sites I get an error message saying they will not print to pdf. For the one that I mentioned not wanting to print reams of parts that I didn't need, I even renamed a virtual printer for the purpose but the site could tell it was a print-to-PDF and refused. Hmm - I just realized that the one difference in your suggestion is to set my pdf printer as the default. I'll try that next time I have a need for pdf over hard copy. Raymond Horton On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote: On Wed, March 28, 2012 3:13 pm, Raymond Horton wrote: There is also a print on command function that some sellers use. It does not deliver pdfs but gives the buyer the ability to print one copy on his or her printer. You can see this at places like http://www.musicnotes.com/ I've used them. Print-on-command sites will use your default printer ... which you can set to a PDF virtual printer and print a PDF set for re-use at any time. I use docPrint Pro on Windows with my own stuff when I want to print it to a different size paper for collating into a collection. PDF prints nicely to PDF on different size virtual paper. :) Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
