Re: [Finale] F2014 bug - layers disappear
Sounds like Show Active Layer Only in the Doc menu is checked On Jan 21, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: I had a bizarre problem crop up. I wonder if anybody else has seen this. I am working on an orchestral score. Most of the instruments have their own staff, but a few are doubled up (FH12, FH34, Tpt12, etc) I use manage parts most of the time I can simply stack the notes and let Manage Parts take the top and bottom notes to two separate parts. Sometimes the voices are different enough that I have to use the second layer for the second part. Finale has always handled that reasonably. With this document, somewhere along the way, something got botched up such that as soon as I clicked the layer-2 button, all the layer 1 notes disappeared. They re-appeared as soon as I clicked on layer 1. I verified that other documents continued to work correctly. Only this one MUSX file was wrong. I suspected some wayward keystroke changed the document options settings. But when I went to the options-Layers box, hide layer when inactive was unchecked for all layers. I tried checking it, saving, then un-checking, but that had no effect. Ultimately I found that I had saved 4 versions of this MUSX file along the way. The problem was present in the 3rd anf 4th, but the first 2 were OK. So I resolved the problem by copying my second version, clearing all the notes, then copying all the music from the broken 4th version. Of course all my parts layouts were messed up, and things like rehearsal marks don't come across. But it did fix the problem. Just wonder if anybody else has seen this. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Multi-measure rests in shared staff managed parts
You have to be in the FH2 part, and right-click and select Apply staff style to… Current score or part. Then you choose the Blank Notation with Rests staff style manually, NOT with the metatool. Then you can create multi measure rests in that part. Christopher On Wed Jan 21, at WednesdayJan 21 7:06 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote: I have a French Horn part that has FH1 and FH2 on the same staff in the score. There is one 5-measure passage that is a solo in FH1. I want these 5 measures to show as multi-measure rest on the managed FH2 part. By putting whole rests in the second layer and configuring FH2 to take Layer 2 when present, the FH2 part comes out correctly with the 5 measures resting. But I cannot get that to turn into multi-measure rest. I tried apply the Z staff style, but unfortunately staff styles are applied to the score, and not the managed parts, so that wiped out the notes in the FH1 part. I can't think of any other way to get multi-measure, other than to extract the FH2 part, and I have a religious objection to extracted parts. Anybody have a solution for this? Thanks, Craig ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Multi-measure rests in shared staff managed parts
I have a French Horn part that has FH1 and FH2 on the same staff in the score. There is one 5-measure passage that is a solo in FH1. I want these 5 measures to show as multi-measure rest on the managed FH2 part. By putting whole rests in the second layer and configuring FH2 to take Layer 2 when present, the FH2 part comes out correctly with the 5 measures resting. But I cannot get that to turn into multi-measure rest. I tried apply the Z staff style, but unfortunately staff styles are applied to the score, and not the managed parts, so that wiped out the notes in the FH1 part. I can't think of any other way to get multi-measure, other than to extract the FH2 part, and I have a religious objection to extracted parts. Anybody have a solution for this? Thanks, Craig ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] F2014 bug - layers disappear
It wasn't something simple, like maybe you turned on Display Active Layer Only? That is a setting that saves with the file. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: I had a bizarre problem crop up. I wonder if anybody else has seen this. I am working on an orchestral score. Most of the instruments have their own staff, but a few are doubled up (FH12, FH34, Tpt12, etc) I use manage parts most of the time I can simply stack the notes and let Manage Parts take the top and bottom notes to two separate parts. Sometimes the voices are different enough that I have to use the second layer for the second part. Finale has always handled that reasonably. With this document, somewhere along the way, something got botched up such that as soon as I clicked the layer-2 button, all the layer 1 notes disappeared. They re-appeared as soon as I clicked on layer 1. I verified that other documents continued to work correctly. Only this one MUSX file was wrong. I suspected some wayward keystroke changed the document options settings. But when I went to the options-Layers box, hide layer when inactive was unchecked for all layers. I tried checking it, saving, then un-checking, but that had no effect. Ultimately I found that I had saved 4 versions of this MUSX file along the way. The problem was present in the 3rd anf 4th, but the first 2 were OK. So I resolved the problem by copying my second version, clearing all the notes, then copying all the music from the broken 4th version. Of course all my parts layouts were messed up, and things like rehearsal marks don't come across. But it did fix the problem. Just wonder if anybody else has seen this. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] F2014 bug - layers disappear
I guess that must be what happened. I wasn't aware of that option. I looked at Document Options-Layers dialog box Hide Layer when inactive was unchecked in all layers, but didn't realize there was another option that basically did the same thing. Live and learn I guess. Thanks, CP On 1/21/2015 7:13 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: It wasn't something simple, like maybe you turned on Display Active Layer Only? That is a setting that saves with the file. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Multi-measure rests in shared staff managed parts
Craig, I am close to releasing a plugin that will allow you to put a multimeas rest anywhere. I can't guarantee it will work in this case, because I haven't tried it with managed parts. If you'd like to be a guineau-pig, contact me privately. Robert On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: I have a French Horn part that has FH1 and FH2 on the same staff in the score. There is one 5-measure passage that is a solo in FH1. I want these 5 measures to show as multi-measure rest on the managed FH2 part. By putting whole rests in the second layer and configuring FH2 to take Layer 2 when present, the FH2 part comes out correctly with the 5 measures resting. But I cannot get that to turn into multi-measure rest. I tried apply the Z staff style, but unfortunately staff styles are applied to the score, and not the managed parts, so that wiped out the notes in the FH1 part. I can't think of any other way to get multi-measure, other than to extract the FH2 part, and I have a religious objection to extracted parts. Anybody have a solution for this? Thanks, Craig ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Scanner for music (11x17)
I have a Brother MFC-J6710DW multi-function inkjet that prints and scans up to 11x17. The MFC will save directly to a network location (FTP) as PDF, JPG, TIFF or whatever. As a printer, it will do 2-sided printing of 11x1y. And you can copy up to 11x17 too, of course. I have a large format laser printer I normally use for music, but this MFC has saved my buns more than a few times. For under $500 it is a pretty good deal. On 1/19/2015 7:36 PM, Rudolf van Berkum wrote: On 20/01/2015, at 2:00 AM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation for a good scanner? I've decided that it will be much quicker to scan printouts into PDF's than to bring many of my old Finale files up to date, so I'd like to get a scanner for this purpose. Also, can anyone suggest a good tradeoff for resolution vs. file size? Thanks, Robert I've scanned a lot of music over the years with my Epson V350 at, mainly, 300 dpi with good results. My recommendation is not for this relatively old scanner, but for the third-party software I use with my iMac: VueScan. It has survived Mac upgrades much better than the Epson software, it handles multiple PDF pages well, and it provides more options than the original software. Regards, Rudi vB. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Multi-measure rests in shared staff managed parts
Craig, In playing around with this, it seems like you can add a Blank Layer with Rests staff style from within the part view, and then you should not need my plugin. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: Craig, I am close to releasing a plugin that will allow you to put a multimeas rest anywhere. I can't guarantee it will work in this case, because I haven't tried it with managed parts. If you'd like to be a guineau-pig, contact me privately. Robert On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: I have a French Horn part that has FH1 and FH2 on the same staff in the score. There is one 5-measure passage that is a solo in FH1. I want these 5 measures to show as multi-measure rest on the managed FH2 part. By putting whole rests in the second layer and configuring FH2 to take Layer 2 when present, the FH2 part comes out correctly with the 5 measures resting. But I cannot get that to turn into multi-measure rest. I tried apply the Z staff style, but unfortunately staff styles are applied to the score, and not the managed parts, so that wiped out the notes in the FH1 part. I can't think of any other way to get multi-measure, other than to extract the FH2 part, and I have a religious objection to extracted parts. Anybody have a solution for this? Thanks, Craig ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] F2014 bug - layers disappear
I had a bizarre problem crop up. I wonder if anybody else has seen this. I am working on an orchestral score. Most of the instruments have their own staff, but a few are doubled up (FH12, FH34, Tpt12, etc) I use manage parts most of the time I can simply stack the notes and let Manage Parts take the top and bottom notes to two separate parts. Sometimes the voices are different enough that I have to use the second layer for the second part. Finale has always handled that reasonably. With this document, somewhere along the way, something got botched up such that as soon as I clicked the layer-2 button, all the layer 1 notes disappeared. They re-appeared as soon as I clicked on layer 1. I verified that other documents continued to work correctly. Only this one MUSX file was wrong. I suspected some wayward keystroke changed the document options settings. But when I went to the options-Layers box, hide layer when inactive was unchecked for all layers. I tried checking it, saving, then un-checking, but that had no effect. Ultimately I found that I had saved 4 versions of this MUSX file along the way. The problem was present in the 3rd anf 4th, but the first 2 were OK. So I resolved the problem by copying my second version, clearing all the notes, then copying all the music from the broken 4th version. Of course all my parts layouts were messed up, and things like rehearsal marks don't come across. But it did fix the problem. Just wonder if anybody else has seen this. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Multi-measure rests in shared staff managed parts
Christopher Smith is right. I do this all the time in my scores. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: Craig, In playing around with this, it seems like you can add a Blank Layer with Rests staff style from within the part view, and then you should not need my plugin. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: Craig, I am close to releasing a plugin that will allow you to put a multimeas rest anywhere. I can't guarantee it will work in this case, because I haven't tried it with managed parts. If you'd like to be a guineau-pig, contact me privately. Robert On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: I have a French Horn part that has FH1 and FH2 on the same staff in the score. There is one 5-measure passage that is a solo in FH1. I want these 5 measures to show as multi-measure rest on the managed FH2 part. By putting whole rests in the second layer and configuring FH2 to take Layer 2 when present, the FH2 part comes out correctly with the 5 measures resting. But I cannot get that to turn into multi-measure rest. I tried apply the Z staff style, but unfortunately staff styles are applied to the score, and not the managed parts, so that wiped out the notes in the FH1 part. I can't think of any other way to get multi-measure, other than to extract the FH2 part, and I have a religious objection to extracted parts. Anybody have a solution for this? Thanks, Craig ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Layer 2 silent till pass 2?
Yes, there is. I wouldn't have believed it, but it works, at least in F2014. 1) You must have each layer going to a separate MIDI channel. Do this in the Score manager. 2) There are different approaches to turning sound on and off per pass. Most people use velocity, but I have the best results by forcing a transposition of 100 when I want to turn the instrument off (that puts it out of range) and then doing a transpose to 0 when I want to tiurn it back on. That way, the other dynamics are not affected. This is clean, reliable, and doesn't mess up HP. 3) So create an expression Play 2nd x with transposition of 0 and play only on pass 2. 4) Create another expression called off or anything meaningful to you. Set the transposition to 100 and play it on pass 1. Hide this expression. 5) After the expressions are attached, go edit the attachment dialog and set both of them for playback only on Layer 2. On 1/21/2015 9:18 PM, Richard Huggins wrote: In FInale playback is there any way for Layer 2 of a repeated section not to sound until the 2nd pass? Richard H. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Multi-measure rests in shared staff managed parts
I just realized u can do exactly what you want. Put bass clef in the part wherever u need it. Then apply a transposing staff style to the score that forces the score to t.c. I do this kind of thing all the time with cues. On Wednesday, January 21, 2015, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: If you can live with clef changes on barlines, you can create a transposition staff style with forced clef that you apply only to the part. But there is no way to do it with mid-measure clefs that I know of...more's the pity. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cr...@parmerlee.com'); wrote: That worked. Thanks. Now I have another similar problem on the same part. There is a passage where the two horns are in octaves. This is all in T.C. on the score. The lower part ends up with 4 ledger lines, so I'd like to put it into B.S. on the managed part. It seems that that if you apply a clef to the managed part, it affects the other part that is lined from the same staff. Does anybody know a way to make that work? I guess my next best option is to move the notes up an octave in the managed part (which should not change the score) and then show an 8VA in the part, but that may throw off the playback in the score. On 1/21/2015 7:26 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: You have to be in the FH2 part, and right-click and select Apply staff style to… Current score or part. Then you choose the Blank Notation with Rests staff style manually, NOT with the metatool. Then you can create multi measure rests in that part. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Finale@shsu.edu'); https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu'); ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Multi-measure rests in shared staff managed parts
Oops, you're right. Or you could also apply the T.C. staff style to FH1. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:43 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: I don't think that works. If I use the clef tool to apply the BC to FH2, then it also applies that to FH1. I want FH1 to be in TC throughout, and FH2 goes to BC for a couple of measures. I think your first idea will do it. On 1/21/2015 9:23 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I just realized u can do exactly what you want. Put bass clef in the part wherever u need it. Then apply a transposing staff style to the score that forces the score to t.c. I do this kind of thing all the time with cues. On Wednesday, January 21, 2015, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: If you can live with clef changes on barlines, you can create a transposition staff style with forced clef that you apply only to the part. But there is no way to do it with mid-measure clefs that I know of...more's the pity. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cr...@parmerlee.com'); wrote: That worked. Thanks. Now I have another similar problem on the same part. There is a passage where the two horns are in octaves. This is all in T.C. on the score. The lower part ends up with 4 ledger lines, so I'd like to put it into B.S. on the managed part. It seems that that if you apply a clef to the managed part, it affects the other part that is lined from the same staff. Does anybody know a way to make that work? I guess my next best option is to move the notes up an octave in the managed part (which should not change the score) and then show an 8VA in the part, but that may throw off the playback in the score. On 1/21/2015 7:26 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: You have to be in the FH2 part, and right-click and select Apply staff style to… Current score or part. Then you choose the Blank Notation with Rests staff style manually, NOT with the metatool. Then you can create multi measure rests in that part. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Finale@shsu.edu'); https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu'); ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Multi-measure rests in shared staff managed parts
Applying the staff style to the managed part worked like a champ, once I figured out that I had to specify the Horn's original transposition in addition to the clef change. I'm a little slow this evening. :) Thanks again. It is a shame that only works for full bars, but that was what I needed in this case, so I'm happy. On 1/21/2015 11:48 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Oops, you're right. Or you could also apply the T.C. staff style to FH1. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:43 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: I don't think that works. If I use the clef tool to apply the BC to FH2, then it also applies that to FH1. I want FH1 to be in TC throughout, and FH2 goes to BC for a couple of measures. I think your first idea will do it. On 1/21/2015 9:23 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I just realized u can do exactly what you want. Put bass clef in the part wherever u need it. Then apply a transposing staff style to the score that forces the score to t.c. I do this kind of thing all the time with cues. On Wednesday, January 21, 2015, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: If you can live with clef changes on barlines, you can create a transposition staff style with forced clef that you apply only to the part. But there is no way to do it with mid-measure clefs that I know of...more's the pity. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cr...@parmerlee.com'); wrote: That worked. Thanks. Now I have another similar problem on the same part. There is a passage where the two horns are in octaves. This is all in T.C. on the score. The lower part ends up with 4 ledger lines, so I'd like to put it into B.S. on the managed part. It seems that that if you apply a clef to the managed part, it affects the other part that is lined from the same staff. Does anybody know a way to make that work? I guess my next best option is to move the notes up an octave in the managed part (which should not change the score) and then show an 8VA in the part, but that may throw off the playback in the score. On 1/21/2015 7:26 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: You have to be in the FH2 part, and right-click and select Apply staff style to… Current score or part. Then you choose the Blank Notation with Rests staff style manually, NOT with the metatool. Then you can create multi measure rests in that part. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Finale@shsu.edu'); https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu'); ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Multi-measure rests in shared staff managed parts
Yes. I can live with full-bar clef changes in this case. I'll try the staff style. Thanks. On 1/21/2015 8:41 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: If you can live with clef changes on barlines, you can create a transposition staff style with forced clef that you apply only to the part. But there is no way to do it with mid-measure clefs that I know of...more's the pity. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Multi-measure rests in shared staff managed parts
If you can live with clef changes on barlines, you can create a transposition staff style with forced clef that you apply only to the part. But there is no way to do it with mid-measure clefs that I know of...more's the pity. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: That worked. Thanks. Now I have another similar problem on the same part. There is a passage where the two horns are in octaves. This is all in T.C. on the score. The lower part ends up with 4 ledger lines, so I'd like to put it into B.S. on the managed part. It seems that that if you apply a clef to the managed part, it affects the other part that is lined from the same staff. Does anybody know a way to make that work? I guess my next best option is to move the notes up an octave in the managed part (which should not change the score) and then show an 8VA in the part, but that may throw off the playback in the score. On 1/21/2015 7:26 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: You have to be in the FH2 part, and right-click and select Apply staff style to… Current score or part. Then you choose the Blank Notation with Rests staff style manually, NOT with the metatool. Then you can create multi measure rests in that part. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Multi-measure rests in shared staff managed parts
That worked. Thanks. Now I have another similar problem on the same part. There is a passage where the two horns are in octaves. This is all in T.C. on the score. The lower part ends up with 4 ledger lines, so I'd like to put it into B.S. on the managed part. It seems that that if you apply a clef to the managed part, it affects the other part that is lined from the same staff. Does anybody know a way to make that work? I guess my next best option is to move the notes up an octave in the managed part (which should not change the score) and then show an 8VA in the part, but that may throw off the playback in the score. On 1/21/2015 7:26 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: You have to be in the FH2 part, and right-click and select Apply staff style to… Current score or part. Then you choose the Blank Notation with Rests staff style manually, NOT with the metatool. Then you can create multi measure rests in that part. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Layer 2 silent till pass 2?
In FInale playback is there any way for Layer 2 of a repeated section not to sound until the 2nd pass? Richard H. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Multi-measure rests in shared staff managed parts
I don't think that works. If I use the clef tool to apply the BC to FH2, then it also applies that to FH1. I want FH1 to be in TC throughout, and FH2 goes to BC for a couple of measures. I think your first idea will do it. On 1/21/2015 9:23 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I just realized u can do exactly what you want. Put bass clef in the part wherever u need it. Then apply a transposing staff style to the score that forces the score to t.c. I do this kind of thing all the time with cues. On Wednesday, January 21, 2015, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: If you can live with clef changes on barlines, you can create a transposition staff style with forced clef that you apply only to the part. But there is no way to do it with mid-measure clefs that I know of...more's the pity. On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cr...@parmerlee.com'); wrote: That worked. Thanks. Now I have another similar problem on the same part. There is a passage where the two horns are in octaves. This is all in T.C. on the score. The lower part ends up with 4 ledger lines, so I'd like to put it into B.S. on the managed part. It seems that that if you apply a clef to the managed part, it affects the other part that is lined from the same staff. Does anybody know a way to make that work? I guess my next best option is to move the notes up an octave in the managed part (which should not change the score) and then show an 8VA in the part, but that may throw off the playback in the score. On 1/21/2015 7:26 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: You have to be in the FH2 part, and right-click and select Apply staff style to… Current score or part. Then you choose the Blank Notation with Rests staff style manually, NOT with the metatool. Then you can create multi measure rests in that part. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Finale@shsu.edu'); https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu'); ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Those errant articulations
Here's how I do it: 1. Apply all the articulations, using the normal articulation def 2. If the articulations for cross-staff isn't good: JW Change-Articulations-Placement Style with the Connected Entries filter set to Cross Staff. The plug-in will create a new articulation def (after asking you first) with the other setting, if that articulation def isn't available in the document. Best regards, Jari Williamsson On 2015-01-21 03:27, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Tue, January 20, 2015 6:58 pm, Robert Patterson wrote: You are correct that this is a long-standing bug and that it is still not fixed in Fin14. I usually work around the problem by creating a copy with positioning set to Manual. Thanks very much Robert and Chuck, That will do it. I'd forgotten that full manual option -- thanks for reminding me ... though it means I can't just sweep over an area that has all the same articulation without deleting the ones I know won't move correctly. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
