Re: [Finale] Ending my engraving

2015-04-06 Thread SN jef chippewa

hey dennis, sorry to hear about that.  hope some teaching gigs pan 
out to fill in the gaps.

rock on
over and out
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preferably unusual notation without tight deadlines. (My cataract 
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easily; it's exhausting reading manuscript.)

At the same time, I will be expanding my composition mentoring to 
five sessions per week, conducted via Skype. I'd be pleased if those 
of you who know me would recommend me to active composers and adult 
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Re: [Finale] Change Instrument in FinMac2014?

2015-04-06 Thread Craig Parmerlee
OK.  I'll give it a try next time out.  Being the master of jazz 
textures, you might appreciate my latest arrangement -- (Every Time We 
Say Goodbye) -- where we wanted to take advantage of the bari sax player 
also being an alto flute double.  So that chart is 2 C flutes, alto 
flute and 2 clarinets plus the normal brass mostly in mutes.  (The chart 
wasn't 100% successful. I may still give it another revision, but the 
textures are cool.)

This chart didn't have any instrument changes, but that band likes to 
use bass clarinet instead of bari and lots of combinations of saxes, 
flutes, and clarinets.  So I'll have good opportunities to use this 
feature.  And if the feature works that well, I might do more instrument 
changes.  That keeps the players more engaged, and the audience is 
really captured by the doubling, especially in the front line (the sax 
section.)

They haven't let me play cimbasso yet.  :)


On 4/6/2015 12:27 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
 Hi Craig,

 You should certainly be using the Change Instrument feature. For starters, it 
 greatly simplifies part creation, and allows for mid-system instrument 
 changes. There is this one playback issue I described (which I don't recall 
 being a problem prior to Finale 2014) but certainly the benefits FAR, FAR 
 outweigh this one particular drawback.

 Cheers,

 - DJA

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Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Lawrence Yates
Yes I am, but transposition isn't there.

On the About Finale in help it says 2012.r3, this despite telling me
that my version is up to date.  I've downloaded the updater and run it but
it doesn't seem to be doing anything at all.

I'm puzzled.

Cheers,

Lawrence

On 6 April 2015 at 15:12, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
wrote:

 P.S. You are opening the Staff Style Define dialog, right? If you open
 the Staff Definition dialog by double-clicking the staff, it does not have
 the Transposition option.

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Robert Patterson 
 rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote:

  That's very strange. On my version of WinFin12c (that I just downloaded),
  Transposition is the fourth option under Appearance.
 
  On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  No, I've got 2012c and it doesn't seem to be there.
 
 
  On 6 April 2015 at 14:21, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
 
  wrote:
 
   The latest version in Finale 2012c, and that's the version you need. I
  just
   tried my FinWin2012 and was surprised A) that is still only Fin2012a
  and B)
   that it does not prompt me for an update. But if I go to the website I
  can
   download WinFin2012c.
  
   The Transpose feature in staff styles is essential not only for horns
  and
   trumpets that change keys a lot, but also for hiding clef changes in
  cues.
  
  
   On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Lawrence Yates 
 yateslawre...@gmail.com
  
   wrote:
  
Thanks, but it says I've got the latest version.
   
I've found a kludge which involves changing to trumpet, then
 changing
  the
transposition and Garritan voice assignment but it seems the hell
 of a
thing to have to do to achieve something I use so often.
   
   
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Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Lawrence Yates
Right - I've shut down my computer and installed the update (it told me
that my version was completely up to date - did I really want to
continue).  I continued and up dated Finale and transposition is now there.

Thanks very much!

Cheers,

Lawrence

On 6 April 2015 at 21:36, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes I am, but transposition isn't there.

 On the About Finale in help it says 2012.r3, this despite telling me
 that my version is up to date.  I've downloaded the updater and run it but
 it doesn't seem to be doing anything at all.

 I'm puzzled.

 Cheers,

 Lawrence

 On 6 April 2015 at 15:12, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
 wrote:

 P.S. You are opening the Staff Style Define dialog, right? If you open
 the Staff Definition dialog by double-clicking the staff, it does not have
 the Transposition option.

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Robert Patterson 
 rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote:

  That's very strange. On my version of WinFin12c (that I just
 downloaded),
  Transposition is the fourth option under Appearance.
 
  On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
  No, I've got 2012c and it doesn't seem to be there.
 
 
  On 6 April 2015 at 14:21, Robert Patterson 
 rob...@robertgpatterson.com
  wrote:
 
   The latest version in Finale 2012c, and that's the version you need.
 I
  just
   tried my FinWin2012 and was surprised A) that is still only Fin2012a
  and B)
   that it does not prompt me for an update. But if I go to the website
 I
  can
   download WinFin2012c.
  
   The Transpose feature in staff styles is essential not only for horns
  and
   trumpets that change keys a lot, but also for hiding clef changes in
  cues.
  
  
   On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Lawrence Yates 
 yateslawre...@gmail.com
  
   wrote:
  
Thanks, but it says I've got the latest version.
   
I've found a kludge which involves changing to trumpet, then
 changing
  the
transposition and Garritan voice assignment but it seems the hell
 of a
thing to have to do to achieve something I use so often.
   
   
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Re: [Finale] Change Instrument in FinMac2014?

2015-04-06 Thread Chuck Israels
Craig,

I agree with Darcy.  The feature works well.  What I haven’t been able to get 
to work in 2014 are the brass mute changes, and fp gets strange playback 
results.  I have learned to live with these playback limitations and hope they 
get fixed in the next version. ( Maybe there’s a way to mess with HP settings 
to get the mutes to work in 2014. but it used to work without any special 
dithering in 2012.)

Chuck


 On Apr 6, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote:
 
 OK.  I'll give it a try next time out.  Being the master of jazz 
 textures, you might appreciate my latest arrangement -- (Every Time We 
 Say Goodbye) -- where we wanted to take advantage of the bari sax player 
 also being an alto flute double.  So that chart is 2 C flutes, alto 
 flute and 2 clarinets plus the normal brass mostly in mutes.  (The chart 
 wasn't 100% successful. I may still give it another revision, but the 
 textures are cool.)
 
 This chart didn't have any instrument changes, but that band likes to 
 use bass clarinet instead of bari and lots of combinations of saxes, 
 flutes, and clarinets.  So I'll have good opportunities to use this 
 feature.  And if the feature works that well, I might do more instrument 
 changes.  That keeps the players more engaged, and the audience is 
 really captured by the doubling, especially in the front line (the sax 
 section.)
 
 They haven't let me play cimbasso yet.  :)
 
 
 On 4/6/2015 12:27 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
 Hi Craig,
 
 You should certainly be using the Change Instrument feature. For starters, 
 it greatly simplifies part creation, and allows for mid-system instrument 
 changes. There is this one playback issue I described (which I don't recall 
 being a problem prior to Finale 2014) but certainly the benefits FAR, FAR 
 outweigh this one particular drawback.
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
 
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[Finale] Fin2014 — custom smart lines attach to beats?

2015-04-06 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi all,

As of Finale 2014, newly created custom smart lines default to attaching to 
noteheads. Is there a way to force them to attach to beats instead? It seems 
that only the pre-defined smart shapes are capable of being beat-attached?

Also (perhaps related): custom smart lines do not seem to copy even when both 
types of Smart Shapes are selected in the Filter.

Cheers,

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Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Patterson
I'm glad to hear it is working. It sounds like your previous update install
was somehow incomplete and you were seeing the un-updated dialog box for
Staff Styles.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Right - I've shut down my computer and installed the update (it told me
 that my version was completely up to date - did I really want to
 continue).  I continued and up dated Finale and transposition is now there.

 Thanks very much!

 Cheers,

 Lawrence

 On 6 April 2015 at 21:36, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com wrote:

  Yes I am, but transposition isn't there.
 
  On the About Finale in help it says 2012.r3, this despite telling me
  that my version is up to date.  I've downloaded the updater and run it
 but
  it doesn't seem to be doing anything at all.
 
  I'm puzzled.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Lawrence
 
  On 6 April 2015 at 15:12, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
  wrote:
 
  P.S. You are opening the Staff Style Define dialog, right? If you open
  the Staff Definition dialog by double-clicking the staff, it does not
 have
  the Transposition option.
 
  On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Robert Patterson 
  rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote:
 
   That's very strange. On my version of WinFin12c (that I just
  downloaded),
   Transposition is the fourth option under Appearance.
  
   On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Lawrence Yates 
 yateslawre...@gmail.com
  
   wrote:
  
   No, I've got 2012c and it doesn't seem to be there.
  
  
   On 6 April 2015 at 14:21, Robert Patterson 
  rob...@robertgpatterson.com
   wrote:
  
The latest version in Finale 2012c, and that's the version you
 need.
  I
   just
tried my FinWin2012 and was surprised A) that is still only
 Fin2012a
   and B)
that it does not prompt me for an update. But if I go to the
 website
  I
   can
download WinFin2012c.
   
The Transpose feature in staff styles is essential not only for
 horns
   and
trumpets that change keys a lot, but also for hiding clef changes
 in
   cues.
   
   
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Lawrence Yates 
  yateslawre...@gmail.com
   
wrote:
   
 Thanks, but it says I've got the latest version.

 I've found a kludge which involves changing to trumpet, then
  changing
   the
 transposition and Garritan voice assignment but it seems the hell
  of a
 thing to have to do to achieve something I use so often.


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Re: [Finale] Fin2014 — custom smart lines attach to beats?

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Patterson
I'm not able to reproduce this behavior in MacFin14d. What I did:

1. New a default doc
2. Open the Custom Line Dialog.
3. Hit Create
4. Hit Okay.

When I assign the new shape it is beat attached, not note attached.


On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com
wrote:

 Hi all,

 As of Finale 2014, newly created custom smart lines default to attaching
 to noteheads. Is there a way to force them to attach to beats instead? It
 seems that only the pre-defined smart shapes are capable of being
 beat-attached?

 Also (perhaps related): custom smart lines do not seem to copy even when
 both types of Smart Shapes are selected in the Filter.

 Cheers,

 - DJA
 -
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Re: [Finale] Fin2014 — custom smart lines attach to beats?

2015-04-06 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Robert,

There (sort of) is — if you're willing to sacrifice the default Glissando, 
Guitar Bend, and/or Tab Slide, you can opt-click on any of them and replace 
with your own custom line instead, and it will be note-attached.

Cheers,

- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org

On Apr 6, 2015, at 10:19 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com 
wrote:

 If there were a way to have custom lines be note-attached, I'd want to know
 about it! But I'm glad you figured it out.
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Robert,
 
 Thanks. I realized what was going on — my macro was misaligned, and
 simulating an opt-click on the Tab Slide tool instead of the Custom Line
 Tool!
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
 -
 WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
 
 On Apr 6, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
 wrote:
 
 I'm not able to reproduce this behavior in MacFin14d. What I did:
 
 1. New a default doc
 2. Open the Custom Line Dialog.
 3. Hit Create
 4. Hit Okay.
 
 When I assign the new shape it is beat attached, not note attached.
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 As of Finale 2014, newly created custom smart lines default to attaching
 to noteheads. Is there a way to force them to attach to beats instead?
 It
 seems that only the pre-defined smart shapes are capable of being
 beat-attached?
 
 Also (perhaps related): custom smart lines do not seem to copy even when
 both types of Smart Shapes are selected in the Filter.
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
 -
 WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Fin2014 — custom smart lines attach to beats?

2015-04-06 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Robert,

Thanks. I realized what was going on — my macro was misaligned, and simulating 
an opt-click on the Tab Slide tool instead of the Custom Line Tool!

Cheers,

- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org

On Apr 6, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com 
wrote:

 I'm not able to reproduce this behavior in MacFin14d. What I did:
 
 1. New a default doc
 2. Open the Custom Line Dialog.
 3. Hit Create
 4. Hit Okay.
 
 When I assign the new shape it is beat attached, not note attached.
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 As of Finale 2014, newly created custom smart lines default to attaching
 to noteheads. Is there a way to force them to attach to beats instead? It
 seems that only the pre-defined smart shapes are capable of being
 beat-attached?
 
 Also (perhaps related): custom smart lines do not seem to copy even when
 both types of Smart Shapes are selected in the Filter.
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
 -
 WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Fin2014 — custom smart lines attach to beats?

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Patterson
If there were a way to have custom lines be note-attached, I'd want to know
about it! But I'm glad you figured it out.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com
wrote:

 Hi Robert,

 Thanks. I realized what was going on — my macro was misaligned, and
 simulating an opt-click on the Tab Slide tool instead of the Custom Line
 Tool!

 Cheers,

 - DJA
 -
 WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org

 On Apr 6, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
 wrote:

  I'm not able to reproduce this behavior in MacFin14d. What I did:
 
  1. New a default doc
  2. Open the Custom Line Dialog.
  3. Hit Create
  4. Hit Okay.
 
  When I assign the new shape it is beat attached, not note attached.
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Darcy James Argue djar...@icloud.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  As of Finale 2014, newly created custom smart lines default to attaching
  to noteheads. Is there a way to force them to attach to beats instead?
 It
  seems that only the pre-defined smart shapes are capable of being
  beat-attached?
 
  Also (perhaps related): custom smart lines do not seem to copy even when
  both types of Smart Shapes are selected in the Filter.
 
  Cheers,
 
  - DJA
  -
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Re: [Finale] Change Instrument in FinMac2014?

2015-04-06 Thread Craig Parmerlee
I think you are saying that fp and mute changes are broken in 2014 
without regard to whether or not you use the Change Instrument feature.

There are those problems and various other HP problems (note off coming 
too late, e.g.) that one really hopes will be fixed in the so-called 
2014.5 release.

But re: mute changes, if you are talking about the Garritan JABB3 
library, I went around and around on that with support.  Ultimately the 
answer was to go into the HP rules for Garritan and change the text 
string from jabb to jazz or maybe it was the other way around.

That seemed to work in most cases, but not in cases where I used an 
older template.  If I created a whole new template under 2014 and made 
those HP/Garritan rule changes, then the mutes worked in response to the 
standard mute expressions that come in when using the setup wizard.

The exception was straight mute.  Apparently HP gets confused with the 
ambiguity between straight mute and straight 8ths.  So if I use the 
Straight expression that is clearly intended for straight mute, no 
keyswitch happens.  However if I use the expression that simply says 
mute then straight mute is keyswitched.  So in the worst case, I can 
show the Straight marking and include a hidden mute marking.

I hope this makes a little sense.



On 4/6/2015 2:54 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
 Craig,

 I agree with Darcy.  The feature works well.  What I haven’t been able to get 
 to work in 2014 are the brass mute changes, and fp gets strange playback 
 results.  I have learned to live with these playback limitations and hope 
 they get fixed in the next version. ( Maybe there’s a way to mess with HP 
 settings to get the mutes to work in 2014. but it used to work without any 
 special dithering in 2012.)

 Chuck

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[Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Lawrence Yates
Hi,

In WinFin 2012 how do I change the horn's transposition mid-piece, for
example 8 bars horn in F, 4 bars horn in D etc.

I used to do this in earlier versions of finale but I can't remember how I
did it (I thought it was with staff styles but this seems not to be the way
any more).

I can't find any reference to mid-piece changes in the manual

Thanks.

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Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Lawrence Yates
No, I've got 2012c and it doesn't seem to be there.


On 6 April 2015 at 14:21, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
wrote:

 The latest version in Finale 2012c, and that's the version you need. I just
 tried my FinWin2012 and was surprised A) that is still only Fin2012a and B)
 that it does not prompt me for an update. But if I go to the website I can
 download WinFin2012c.

 The Transpose feature in staff styles is essential not only for horns and
 trumpets that change keys a lot, but also for hiding clef changes in cues.


 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Thanks, but it says I've got the latest version.
 
  I've found a kludge which involves changing to trumpet, then changing the
  transposition and Garritan voice assignment but it seems the hell of a
  thing to have to do to achieve something I use so often.
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Raimund Lintzen
That's a task for a staff style.

happy easter to all!

Raimund

Am 06.04.2015 um 12:52 schrieb Lawrence Yates:
 Hi,

 In WinFin 2012 how do I change the horn's transposition mid-piece, for
 example 8 bars horn in F, 4 bars horn in D etc.

 I used to do this in earlier versions of finale but I can't remember how I
 did it (I thought it was with staff styles but this seems not to be the way
 any more).

 I can't find any reference to mid-piece changes in the manual

 Thanks.

 Lawrence


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[Finale] Ending my engraving

2015-04-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi Finale friends,

Once I finish some outstanding projects, I'll be ending my music engraving
services. I'll still take on occasional projects, preferably unusual notation
without tight deadlines. (My cataract surgery two years ago worked, but left
me with vision that tires easily; it's exhausting reading manuscript.)

At the same time, I will be expanding my composition mentoring to five
sessions per week, conducted via Skype. I'd be pleased if those of you who
know me would recommend me to active composers and adult students looking for
perspective challenges.

Thanks,
Dennis


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Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Lawrence Yates
Thanks, but it says I've got the latest version.

I've found a kludge which involves changing to trumpet, then changing the
transposition and Garritan voice assignment but it seems the hell of a
thing to have to do to achieve something I use so often.


On 6 April 2015 at 14:09, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
wrote:

 Transposition was removed from staff styles in the first release of Fin12,
 then added back in a subsequent update. Make sure your WinFin12 is the
 latest version.

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  In WinFin 2012 how do I change the horn's transposition mid-piece, for
  example 8 bars horn in F, 4 bars horn in D etc.
 
  I used to do this in earlier versions of finale but I can't remember how
 I
  did it (I thought it was with staff styles but this seems not to be the
 way
  any more).
 
  I can't find any reference to mid-piece changes in the manual
 
  Thanks.
 
  Lawrence
 
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Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Patterson
The latest version in Finale 2012c, and that's the version you need. I just
tried my FinWin2012 and was surprised A) that is still only Fin2012a and B)
that it does not prompt me for an update. But if I go to the website I can
download WinFin2012c.

The Transpose feature in staff styles is essential not only for horns and
trumpets that change keys a lot, but also for hiding clef changes in cues.


On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Thanks, but it says I've got the latest version.

 I've found a kludge which involves changing to trumpet, then changing the
 transposition and Garritan voice assignment but it seems the hell of a
 thing to have to do to achieve something I use so often.


 On 6 April 2015 at 14:09, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
 wrote:

  Transposition was removed from staff styles in the first release of
 Fin12,
  then added back in a subsequent update. Make sure your WinFin12 is the
  latest version.
 
  On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   In WinFin 2012 how do I change the horn's transposition mid-piece, for
   example 8 bars horn in F, 4 bars horn in D etc.
  
   I used to do this in earlier versions of finale but I can't remember
 how
  I
   did it (I thought it was with staff styles but this seems not to be the
  way
   any more).
  
   I can't find any reference to mid-piece changes in the manual
  
   Thanks.
  
   Lawrence
  
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Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Patterson
That's very strange. On my version of WinFin12c (that I just downloaded),
Transposition is the fourth option under Appearance.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com
wrote:

 No, I've got 2012c and it doesn't seem to be there.


 On 6 April 2015 at 14:21, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
 wrote:

  The latest version in Finale 2012c, and that's the version you need. I
 just
  tried my FinWin2012 and was surprised A) that is still only Fin2012a and
 B)
  that it does not prompt me for an update. But if I go to the website I
 can
  download WinFin2012c.
 
  The Transpose feature in staff styles is essential not only for horns and
  trumpets that change keys a lot, but also for hiding clef changes in
 cues.
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Thanks, but it says I've got the latest version.
  
   I've found a kludge which involves changing to trumpet, then changing
 the
   transposition and Garritan voice assignment but it seems the hell of a
   thing to have to do to achieve something I use so often.
  
  
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Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Lawrence Yates
Thanks Raimond, that's what I used to do but it doesn't seem available any
more.

Cheers,

Lawrence

On 6 April 2015 at 14:11, Raimund Lintzen raimund.lint...@t-online.de
wrote:

 That's a task for a staff style.

 happy easter to all!

 Raimund

 Am 06.04.2015 um 12:52 schrieb Lawrence Yates:
  Hi,
 

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Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Patterson
Transposition was removed from staff styles in the first release of Fin12,
then added back in a subsequent update. Make sure your WinFin12 is the
latest version.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 In WinFin 2012 how do I change the horn's transposition mid-piece, for
 example 8 bars horn in F, 4 bars horn in D etc.

 I used to do this in earlier versions of finale but I can't remember how I
 did it (I thought it was with staff styles but this seems not to be the way
 any more).

 I can't find any reference to mid-piece changes in the manual

 Thanks.

 Lawrence

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Re: [Finale] Changing transposition mid piece

2015-04-06 Thread Robert Patterson
P.S. You are opening the Staff Style Define dialog, right? If you open
the Staff Definition dialog by double-clicking the staff, it does not have
the Transposition option.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Robert Patterson 
rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote:

 That's very strange. On my version of WinFin12c (that I just downloaded),
 Transposition is the fourth option under Appearance.

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 No, I've got 2012c and it doesn't seem to be there.


 On 6 April 2015 at 14:21, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
 wrote:

  The latest version in Finale 2012c, and that's the version you need. I
 just
  tried my FinWin2012 and was surprised A) that is still only Fin2012a
 and B)
  that it does not prompt me for an update. But if I go to the website I
 can
  download WinFin2012c.
 
  The Transpose feature in staff styles is essential not only for horns
 and
  trumpets that change keys a lot, but also for hiding clef changes in
 cues.
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
   Thanks, but it says I've got the latest version.
  
   I've found a kludge which involves changing to trumpet, then changing
 the
   transposition and Garritan voice assignment but it seems the hell of a
   thing to have to do to achieve something I use so often.
  
  
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