RE: [Finale] Alt-v-a

2005-03-17 Thread jeffery
I've used Quickeys with Finale for a number of years -- the version
available for the PC is 2.5, which hasn't been updated in several years.
It's not as powerful as Quickeys for the mac, but it sure helps eliminate a
lot of steps (I use it in particular with TGTools functions).

JC

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 Hi Johannes,

 On 17 Mar 2005, at 9:18 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:

  I don't think I ever tried it, but you can define keyboard shortcuts
  for any app under Panther.

 Unfortunately, no you can't.  I think it only works on Cocoa apps?  Or
 maybe it works on *some* Carbon apps, but not all.  Anyway, it doesn't
 work in Finale.  (Nor does it work in Sibelius.)

 Also, there's the (deal-breaking, for me) drawback that all shortcuts
 programmed in this way must involve the command key.

 Hopefully, Tiger will be better in this regard.  It would be *really
 nice* to have OS-level support for user-customizable keyboard shortcuts
 in any application, but we are still a long way away from that.

 - Darcy
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RE: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius and Finale 2005/Finale 200x comparison

2005-03-04 Thread jeffery
I appreciate all the feedback and ideas, everyone, thank you. I've worked
with 2005 for the last day now, and already see many dramatic improvements,
and appreciated the returned control over the end product. So it is back to
Finale for me.

I've also written a blog entry on this topic (Finale vs. Sibelius) on my
website, would be interested in your feedback:

http://www.jefferycotton.net/info.asp?pgs=blogentryblbe=10

(The entry is entitled Sex in the Concert Hall -- which has nothing to do
with Finale, alas.)

Jeffery

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RE: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius and Finale 2005/Finale 200x comparison

2005-03-04 Thread jeffery
Thanks, Christopher -- I didn't want to go into too much detail about
Sibelius' inadequacies in the blog, but as I do have to complete one piece
I'm working on now in Sibelius (I'm too far along to start over now) it
might be worth keeping a list of these things and posting them later.

No, a hansom cab from Cassis to Marseille for 10 ten miles of southern
French mountains would NOT be a good solution. I'm afraid I meant handsome
(you can read the relevant blog entry here, and all will become clear:
http://www.jefferycotton.net/info.asp?pgs=blogentryblbe=8).

I didn't mean to cause confusion, but I doubt that the hot stud in leather
chaps who can't spell 'hairpin' would have been quite as clear in its
meaning -- to the majority anyway.

Jeffery


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 Of Christopher Smith
 Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 1:45 PM
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 comparison



 On Mar 4, 2005, at 5:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've also written a blog entry on this topic (Finale vs. Sibelius) on
  my
  website, would be interested in your feedback:
 

 Very nicely put, but for my money (all 0$ of it!) I would have liked
 more detail than just hairpin openings, particularly any details that
 might pertain to the accurate and readable, and not much else crowd.
 These are the ones I have to convince when talking about notation
 programs.

 BTW, in your second-last line in the blog, about getting out of Cassis,
 did you mean to write Maybe I can find that hansom cab driver again
 or did you really find him handsome? I wouldn't have been confused at
 all except for a previous line about Sibelius being the knockout
 bombshell in the tight dress  talk about your mixed messages! No
 complaints from my end either way  I am only interested in the idea
 that you want to express being clearly put across. 8-)

 Christopher


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RE: [Finale] Finale/Sibelius and Finale 2005/Finale 200x comparison

2005-03-03 Thread jeffery





  disappearing measures, 
  I've never seen that. What is that? I have occasionally seen measures 
  APPEAR to vanish, but that is usually because I had a multi-measure rest where 
  I later entered notes, and forgot to turn off the rest.
That 
was a typo (although I have seen the measures with music"hidden" inside a 
multiple rest before)— I should have said disappearing systems. A while 
back I was doing a string quartet score, for example, with two systems per page. 
After completing all the horizontal layout and editing,I set the top and 
bottom margins for all pages in an appropriate spot and the did Page 
Layout/Space Systems Evenly..., whereby Finale pushes the top system to 
the top of the page and the bottom system to the bottom of the page. What I 
discovered was that occasionally the bottom system would simply go missing, so 
page x would e.g. be system 10 and 11, page y would be system 12 with no bottom 
system, and page z would be sytem 14 and 15. So system 13 simply disappeared. If 
I looked in scroll view the music was still all there, just not in page view. 
Once I saw this I realized it was happening very frequently.

Again, 
this was Finale 2002.

Jeffery
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[Finale] Finale/Sibelius and Finale 2005/Finale 200x comparison

2005-03-02 Thread jeffery



Greetings 
all,

mailing list newbie 
here. Glad to have found this.

The latest 
version of Finale I am familiar with is 2002, having refused to upgrade beyond 
that until they fixed some of the basic notational problems in Finale that 
always seemed to get overlooked -- the eternal problems with tuplet placement, 
hairpins, disappearing measures, etc --in favor of "composer's assistant" 
nonsense. As someone who looks at these programs largely as notational tools, I 
got frustrated. In any case, I stuck it out with 2002 until recently, 
when I was finally convinced by friends to try Sibelius. 
I've been working with version 3.1.3 for about 2 months. 


Certainly 
things are superior in Sibelius when it comes to the user interface and certain 
formatting issues (at least in comparison to Finale 2002). But at the end of the 
day I am most concerned about what comes out of my printer, and Sibelius doesn't 
even begin to approach the professional look that I can get(after much 
hair-pulling) out of Finale. And I am frustrated again, because the response in 
the Sibelius forums is constantly "no, you can't do that 
(yet)."

Anyway: I'm 
wondering if I can get some feedback on where things stand with Finale 2005 as 
regards the many problems I am familiar with in F2002, and I'm wondering what 
the NEW frustrations might be with 2005 (again, as regards notation -- I do not 
use these programs' composing tools orsound-file generating 
tools.)At this point I'd considering upgrading if I thought that 2005 was 
honestly better than 2002.

If there is 
somewhere on the internet where someone has actually documented these things, 
that would certainly suffice. I don't want to take up too much bandwidth here! 
;-)

Thanks,

Jeffery
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