Re: [Finale] Unusual Tuplet

2019-05-31 Thread paoloalbertorismondo

Hi,
It is not possible to place two dotted halves in four quarter, under a 
quintuplet sign; one of the two halves has to be without dot.
One (just one, not really very important) of the reasons why 
"contemporary music" interests me a lot in passing, is that it is full 
of people (in Italy also) who believe that placing a quintuplet inside a 
nonuplet etc., is in itself a fact of 'avant-garde', probably even 
'leftist' (which harms, has harmed, even to the 'left', nb); while it's 
just a big nonsense, a bluff.
And bluffs don't last long, unless you have a big, big deal behind you - 
while "contemporary music" has become, thanks to such nonsense, only a 
small deal.

all best,
Paolo Rismondo
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Re: [Finale] Unusual Tuplet

2019-05-29 Thread paoloalbertorismondo


Hi Giovanni,

I can't figure that rhythm; how on earth you can write it? two dotted 
halves makes six quarter, not five. You can find such rhythms in 
contemporary ('new complexity') composers, but they are wrong (and 
silly).


all best,

Paolo


Il 28/05/2019 19:52, Giovanni Andreani ha scritto:
I can’t resolve Finale to correctly display a tuplet showing two dotted 
halves in the time of five quarters.


Any workaround?


Giovanni




Giovanni Andreani

www.giovanniandreani.com
www.ga-music.com



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Re: [Finale] music softwares and 'politics'

2019-01-31 Thread paoloalbertorismondo


Hi David,

I wrote: 'I see that many people (and increasingly so) likes to allow 
software (or maybe, other people) to do things ready for them'. The 
music software market (admittedly, 'a very tiny niche of a niche 
market') is only a small, and perhaps negligeable, part of a very 
general trend; but perhaps what happens in this tiny-tiny niche could be 
symptomatic. Just now, people is influenced in their decisions (but also 
ideas and opinion) by datas sent0 from (other) computers (but people 
often forgot that behind that computer there is always a man, and often 
is a company); and the demand for 'ready made solutions' is increasing 
everywhere, I think.


When I approached this - very general - trend to 'something Italy (and 
other countries as well) has suffered some decades ago', it was by 
'similarity' of course, not by 'identity'.


Btw: I don't know really if all of the music softwares you quote 'forces 
anybody to accept the result "out of the box" with no changes possible'; 
Finale surely does, Sibelius perhaps (I've never used it to its full 
potential), others that you have mentioned... I do not think. A 
revelatory sign is the possibility of using different fonts - not only 
the one(s) supplied by the producer of the software - with ease, and 
even in the very same score (or project).


all best,

Paolo

Il 28/01/2019 21:37, David H. Bailey ha scritto:

Hi Paolo,

You make good points.  In an ideal world, the software would create 
beautiful engraved scores and parts with very little effort, but for 
those who want more control it would also allow them to do what they 
want.


After all, the whole purpose of computers in the first place was to do 
quickly and easily what would take a human many more hours to do and 
not so easily.  Imagine getting to the end of a 30-part score, all 
written beautifully by hand, only to find that 30 notes needed to be 
changed in every part, necessitating the complete rewriting of many 
pages of the score.  Computers were designed to remove that sort of 
labor.


Using notation software, which in actuality is a very tiny niche of a 
niche market and nowhere near to affecting the entire population is 
quite different from the political manifestations you mention when a 
country's leader tries to think for the entire population.


One of the great things about good notation software such as Finale, 
Sibelius, Dorico, increasingly MuseScore, Notion, Forte, is the amount 
of control that each software allows the user to exercise.  None of the 
programs forces anybody to accept the result "out of the box" with no 
changes possible. The more expensive programs Finale, Sibelius and 
Dorico allow more control over more items so the users indeed have the 
ability to think and sweat all they want over all the little details 
that only a music engraver would care about but which would not be 
noticed by most performing musicians.


And the best thing in my opinion about the notation software 
marketplace is that nobody is forced to use any particular software 
unless they have a demanding client who insists on one over the others.


So the "political" comparison doesn't Really hold up, again in my 
opinion.


Thanks for raising the issue,
David H. Bailey

On 1/28/2019 9:49 AM, Paolo Alberto Rismondo wrote:

Hi,

A 'political' (maybe) consideration about music softwares other than 
/Finale /- that allow me not to mention them explicitly.


I see that many people (and increasingly so) likes to allow software 
(or maybe, other people) to do things ready for them. That's an 
interesting phenomenon, not at all restricted to 'music softwares'; 
it's simpler, easier, quicker etc.; you have not even to think with 
your head.


Maybe it come close to something Italy (and other countries as well) 
has suffered some decades ago (I mean, a single person that think, do, 
etc. for a whole nation).


I continue to prefer that the software do what I want, even if I had 
to find myself alone.


Paolo A. Rismondo



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