Re: [Finale] MuseScore vs. Finale
On Feb 2, 2011, at 11:57 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: While it's true that I am using an old version of Finale, I recently (november) upgraded from Finale 2002 to 2011. I am amazed and delighted at the ease of learning the new features and highly recommend that people who have not upgraded in a few years to do so. I have a mac, and the new program is seems very stable, and intuitive. I like it a lot, and was able to submit a large orchestral score, on time, using the new program. Just my 2 cents. timothy key price timothy.key.pr...@valley.net ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Program Hang
Asking for advice, please. Bought Finale 2011 in November and have been using it, learning its new features, Garritan, etc. without problems. Then at the end of a session using my MacBrook Pro, Finale froze up. I quit Finale and relaunched it and it now hangs, even when I try to open a template. I have removed Finale, emptied the trash and reinstalled the program. It still hangs. Has this happened to anyone else? Am reluctant to reinstall the Mac 10.5.8 operating system, etc. so any ideas on fixes would be much appreciated. Meanwhile I have returned to Finale 2002 on my other computer and syths; all is blissful and getting lots done with the old familiar program. Still, would like to get Finale 2011 back. thank you for any hints, tim timothy key price timothy.key.pr...@valley.net ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Program Hang
Wow, that was easy. Worked like a charm. Thank you very much. tim On Jan 9, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Steve Parker wrote: User: Finale: Preferences: Finale 20** Preferences Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 21:28, Chuck Israels wrote: First thing to try is to trash the Finale preferences and rebuild them. Thing is, I've forgotten where the preference file is stored! I'm looking for it, and will report, if I find it. Chuck On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:03 PM, timothy key price wrote: Asking for advice, please. Bought Finale 2011 in November and have been using it, learning its new features, Garritan, etc. without problems. Then at the end of a session using my MacBrook Pro, Finale froze up. I quit Finale and relaunched it and it now hangs, even when I try to open a template. I have removed Finale, emptied the trash and reinstalled the program. It still hangs. Has this happened to anyone else? Am reluctant to reinstall the Mac 10.5.8 operating system, etc. so any ideas on fixes would be much appreciated. Meanwhile I have returned to Finale 2002 on my other computer and syths; all is blissful and getting lots done with the old familiar program. Still, would like to get Finale 2011 back. thank you for any hints, tim timothy key price timothy.key.pr...@valley.net ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 Portland, OR 97209-3162 phone: (503) 926-7952 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale timothy key price timothy.key.pr...@valley.net ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Organ music page size
As organist often have to play anything that they are given, the music stand is often filled with books, loose sheets, and all of various sizes. We manage just fine. Personally, legal or not, I will copy as many pieces as I can into an 8 1/2 x 11 format and put them in plastic sheets in a notebook which I then attach on each page sticky notes with the registrations for whichever instrument I am currently playing. It works fine for me. As for published music, most of what I buy is in 9 x 12 page size, either in portrait or landscape position. The latest piece I just got is the collection of Mendelssohn's organ works, and is 12 wide by 9 hight, spiral bound. Much classical work seems to be in this format. This is great and if you use this it will be perfectly fine. Individual pieces or collections of organ music are usually in vertical layout. Finally, 8 1/2 x 11 in either horizontal or vertical format would be fine as well, if it keeps it simple for you. best wishes, tim On May 12, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Ryan Beard wrote: Is it still common practice to use oblong pages for organ music? I'm guessing that the size is dictated by the stand that's often built into organs. What would be the largest size page you organ- playing listers would use? Should the *music* size (staff size) be larger than standard instrumental parts since the organists music may be further away depending on the size of the console? I typically print instrumental parts at 85%-90%. I solved my previous organ problem (dynamic placement) thanks to the users on this list and a local organist. I'll ask the local guy the above question as well, but I'm hoping the collective experience of users on this list will give me a wide range of situations to take into account. Thanks. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale timothy key price timothy.key.pr...@valley.net ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Organ music page size
Wow, knowing how difficult it is to keep one's place in a normal sized score, reducing the size to this extent would make it very difficult for me, beyond just the challenge of the performance. Because I seem to need a more normal staff size, I do not usually reduce music, but equally, I will copy it so that I can avoid any page turns. Often there are 4 sheets laid out in order across the organ stand. Performance is the only thing that is important, so page turns often do interfere with registration changes. If the composer or editor wants to make the layout so that one hand is free for a page turn, perhaps without the need for a registration change too, that would be nice, particularly for music organists play only occasionally, not memorized. :-) But that is asking too much. tim On May 13, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Guy Hayden wrote: When I play the Toccatta from Widor's Symphony No. 5 I use a HUGE sheet with all the pages glued together and greatly reduced in size. No allowance was made in the engraving, nor is one possible, for page turns or registration changes. timothy key price timothy.key.pr...@valley.net ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Creative name...
MIDI performance, or MIDI realization timothy key price [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:01 AM, Bob Morabito wrote: ok..a little more serious this time.. the sound realization of a score. Better? Bob Morabito On Dec 8, 2008, at 5:39 AM, Dana Friedman @ Dragonfly Technologies wrote: Hi folks: Can one of you think of a single word or very short phrase that would define/mean the service of taking a Finale score, assigning patches to it and creating an MP3 from the resulting combination of score + patches, dynamics, and all the other minutiae that go into making a piece of music come alive in a playback? Thanks, Dana ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In'
timothy key price [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 15, 2008, at 6:02 PM, Rod McDonald wrote: Many thanks to those who helped me this morning. Took me a while to find the Insert Note command...at my age, I seem to have difficulty seeing what is directly in front of me! Best Wishes. Rod. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Florence + Michael Sent: Sunday, 16 November 2008 4:40 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] missing 'Create Tempo Plug-In' Just create an expression in the tempo marks category. There's now a menu (Insert Note) where you can choose the note value, and if you continue typing something like = 120, you'll see that Finale automatically changes to the font defined for tempo marking numbers. Playback is automatically set. Honestly, it's just as good as the plug-in. There are advantages over the old version, as well: - The simple fact of creating the expression in the tempo marks category means that it gets assigned to the correct score list. - If you have a tempo marking that you will need to use often, you can create a metatool for it and pop it into the score with one click, something that didn't work too well in older versions (a measure-attached expression entered with a metatool automatically got entered on all staves). - The create tempo marking plug-in will only use Maestro as font for the note and number. In 2009 you can choose any font for the note value, and another for the number if you wish. - You can now very quickly create an expression for a tempo relation such as eighth note = quarter note. Michael On 15 Nov 2008, at 16:52, Rod McDonald wrote: Have recently up-graded to 2009b and for the first time since I commenced using Finale in 2004, I am unable to find the 'Create Tempo Plug- In', which has always been under 'Plug-Ins---Expressions---Create Tempo. Now, no plug in. Am I missing something simple? Help, please.I am in the middle of something which requires repeated changes of tempo! Thanks. Rod. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: quarter-tone
Thanks, Dennis, and everyone who gave locations for quarter-tone music. Well, am pretty sure that all us old farmers who hears the Ives pieces must say, Yeh, we had a piano like that once. Also, from what I know of Ives, I wonder if it might have been his effort at memorialization of the New England churches, grange hall, town halls and such as each had their own out-of-tune piano. The sound brings with it a sweet nostalgia for them because they are such a part of Americana. At the time we tend to try to forgive the instrument's out-of-tuneness for the sake of the greater music being strived for by the local musician having to deal with it. (no money for tuning) As for developing a greater appreciation for microtonal music, it will take more that a first exposure to get me very interested. Dennis, your solo violin piece with Larry Reed is much more easily enjoyed for its subtleties, I think, because it does not have the immediacy of the correct pitch to trigger the out-of-tune response the Ives two piano pieces do. Am glad to have heard them all. tim timothy key price [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Oct 18, 2008, at 12:18 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: It's an interesting topic, so I've copied part of my answer to Tim here: On Sat, October 18, 2008 12:02 pm, timothy price wrote: Accidently sent this to the Finale list. :-( You'll get answers. :) Should I copy my answer to the list? Was wondering if you had a site where I could stream or download (listen to) anything using quarter-tones? There's always my own Thiele, composed for performed by Larry Read back in the 1990s. Download (3 mvts.): http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/music/mp3/chamberbowling/thiele_1.mp3 http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/music/mp3/chamberbowling/thiele_2.mp3 http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/music/mp3/chamberbowling/thiele_3.mp3 Score: http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/music/pdf/thiele.pdf For more famous people, there are Charles Ives's three quarter-tone piano pieces. Here are two pretty good performances on YouTube: 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXJPnUZhETg 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JESZY4VK68 What is the basic tonality? I mean, does it mater, whether it is just, tempered, etc. tuning? Usually quarter-tone music is played tempered. It spans the whole range that 12TET music does, from modernist to romantic (as you can hear in the Ives, especially the Largo and Chorale). [remainder personal] Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brain freeze
By George, I think I've got it. Thank you everyone. timothy key price [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Oct 13, 2008, at 5:43 PM, John Howell wrote: Ostinato: My Norton-Grove might be more helpful: A term used to refer to the repetition of a musical pattern many times in succession. The most famous example is Ravel's Bolero, which runs that rhythmic ostinato into the ground! John ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brain freeze
On Oct 12, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Jane Frasier wrote: Ostinato Sounds like a car dealership in Texas. This thread has not clearly defined the different possible choices: ostinato, chaconne or passacaglia. Are there any substantive differences in these terms? ie. Chaconne and Passacaglia are harmonic patterns repeated endlessly, and Onstinato is a repeated melody upon which counter melodies may be placed? thanks, tim ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Brain freeze
In very simplistic terms, is it fair to say that Beethoven's first 4 notes of his 5th symphony are used as an ostinato? Or is it not repeated regularly enough? Still not sure how the term is applied or correctly used and my music dictionary is not much help. Don't mean to beat this to death. tim timothy key price [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Oct 13, 2008, at 1:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aha! Even this new Austinite says oh-stee-NAH-toh instead of aw-stin-AU-to. Don't know what the native speakers of Italian now living in our great state say. ajr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Car dealer in Texas? Where in TX is this? In addition to the terms listed below the English often called a repetitive bass line a ground bass, or simply a ground. And if it's 12 bars it may very well be a blues bass! Being from Austin, I would have thought the pun was obvious to you: Ostinato is pronounced Austin Auto. As for the ground bass, or simply ground, if it's the same thing done over and over with exactly duplicating entries, is it a Ground Round? -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
