Re: [Finale] Big band drum parts

2018-08-20 Thread David H. Bailey
What version of Finale are you using?  My answers apply to Finale 25, 
but as I recall they've been this way for many versions.


You edit the layers in Document Options / Layers (not "move layers" as 
you ask)


You edit Slash Notation Staff Style but selecting the Staff Tool and 
then from the Staff Menu select Define Staff Styles


You select Show Active Layer Only in the Document menu (why it's not in 
the View menu or in the Edit menu, since it affects what you're viewing 
and also affects what is being edited, is a question nobody has been 
able to answer clearly).  You can also use the shift-alt-S (that's on 
windows, I don't know what the combination would be on a Mac) to set the 
Show Active Layer Only or turn it off when you want to see everything. 
Then you select Layer 3 using the small 1 2 3 4 boxes at the bottom left 
of the screen.


David H. Bailey




On 8/20/2018 5:46 AM, Martin Nickless wrote:



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On 20 Aug 2018, at 02:58, Christopher Smith  
wrote:

That seems right.

I reserve layer 3 for cues above the staff, and I set Layer Options so that 
Layer 3 is always stems up, ties up, and rests are displaced by 6 steps. I make 
sure the option is selected that this happens even when the other layers are 
empty.
DO I FIND LAYER OPTIONS VIA DOCUMENT OPTIONS MOVE LAYERS ?
I reserve layer 4 for cues below the staff, Layer Options stems down for Layer 
4, ties down, and rests displaced by negative 6 steps.

Layer 2 I use in choral parts and keyboard parts and stems down on drum parts 
(not to mention paired instruments on staves) so I don’t want that for cues.

You have to edit the Slash Notation staff style so that under Alternate 
Notation you edit it to show items in other layers. Otherwise, out of the box, 
Finale will NOT show anything else. I also add articulations and expressions in 
other layers to be displayed, because those things need to show, even in the 
drum part.

HOW DO I NAVIGATE TO EDIT SLASH NOTATION


I also like to Show Active Layer while in Layer 3, select the entire drum 
staff, and Change Note Size to 75%. I do this only once the whole drum part is 
done. Some people like the drum cues to be full-sized, but I find it gets 
crowded at 100%. Repeat for Layer 4.

HOW DO I GET TO SHOW ACTIVE LAYER IN LAYER 3
NOT SURE ABOUT HOW TO GET TO THE DIFFERENT SCREENS FROM YOUR BRILLIANT ANSWER
THANKS IF YOY COYLD CLARIFY
BEST REGARDS
MARTIN


Hope this helps.

Christopher



On Aug 19, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Martin Nickless  wrote:


Hi there can any one writing big band charts please help me with my  drum parts
I have searched all over finale manuals but with no luck
I want to write small cue  size notes above the top staff and small cue size 
notes just below the staff
With slash notation in the middle
If someone could bullet point the process I would be extremely grateful kind 
regards Martin

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Re: [Finale] Big band drum parts

2018-08-20 Thread Martin Nickless


Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Aug 2018, at 02:58, Christopher Smith  
> wrote:
> 
> That seems right.
> 
> I reserve layer 3 for cues above the staff, and I set Layer Options so that 
> Layer 3 is always stems up, ties up, and rests are displaced by 6 steps. I 
> make sure the option is selected that this happens even when the other layers 
> are empty.
> DO I FIND LAYER OPTIONS VIA DOCUMENT OPTIONS MOVE LAYERS ?
> I reserve layer 4 for cues below the staff, Layer Options stems down for 
> Layer 4, ties down, and rests displaced by negative 6 steps.
> 
> Layer 2 I use in choral parts and keyboard parts and stems down on drum parts 
> (not to mention paired instruments on staves) so I don’t want that for cues.
> 
> You have to edit the Slash Notation staff style so that under Alternate 
> Notation you edit it to show items in other layers. Otherwise, out of the 
> box, Finale will NOT show anything else. I also add articulations and 
> expressions in other layers to be displayed, because those things need to 
> show, even in the drum part. 
HOW DO I NAVIGATE TO EDIT SLASH NOTATION
> 
> I also like to Show Active Layer while in Layer 3, select the entire drum 
> staff, and Change Note Size to 75%. I do this only once the whole drum part 
> is done. Some people like the drum cues to be full-sized, but I find it gets 
> crowded at 100%. Repeat for Layer 4.
HOW DO I GET TO SHOW ACTIVE LAYER IN LAYER 3 
NOT SURE ABOUT HOW TO GET TO THE DIFFERENT SCREENS FROM YOUR BRILLIANT ANSWER 
THANKS IF YOY COYLD CLARIFY 
BEST REGARDS 
MARTIN
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Christopher
> 
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi there can any one writing big band charts please help me with my  drum 
>> parts 
>> I have searched all over finale manuals but with no luck
>> I want to write small cue  size notes above the top staff and small cue size 
>> notes just below the staff 
>> With slash notation in the middle 
>> If someone could bullet point the process I would be extremely grateful kind 
>> regards Martin
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Finale] Big band drum parts

2018-08-20 Thread David H. Bailey
Thank you very much, Christopher, for this very detailed outline of what 
to do in this instance.


It's very kind of you to take the time to outline this process, and even 
though I don't currently need to use it, it's something I'm filing away 
in a special folder for future reference.


Thank you!
David H. Bailey


On 8/19/2018 9:58 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:

That seems right.

I reserve layer 3 for cues above the staff, and I set Layer Options so that 
Layer 3 is always stems up, ties up, and rests are displaced by 6 steps. I make 
sure the option is selected that this happens even when the other layers are 
empty.

I reserve layer 4 for cues below the staff, Layer Options stems down for Layer 
4, ties down, and rests displaced by negative 6 steps.

Layer 2 I use in choral parts and keyboard parts and stems down on drum parts 
(not to mention paired instruments on staves) so I don’t want that for cues.

You have to edit the Slash Notation staff style so that under Alternate 
Notation you edit it to show items in other layers. Otherwise, out of the box, 
Finale will NOT show anything else. I also add articulations and expressions in 
other layers to be displayed, because those things need to show, even in the 
drum part.

I also like to Show Active Layer while in Layer 3, select the entire drum 
staff, and Change Note Size to 75%. I do this only once the whole drum part is 
done. Some people like the drum cues to be full-sized, but I find it gets 
crowded at 100%. Repeat for Layer 4.


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Re: [Finale] Big band drum parts

2018-08-20 Thread Martin Nickless
Hi 

 thank you for taking the time to respond in detail 
Cheers
Martin



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> On 20 Aug 2018, at 02:58, Christopher Smith  
> wrote:
> 
> That seems right.
> 
> I reserve layer 3 for cues above the staff, and I set Layer Options so that 
> Layer 3 is always stems up, ties up, and rests are displaced by 6 steps. I 
> make sure the option is selected that this happens even when the other layers 
> are empty.
> 
> I reserve layer 4 for cues below the staff, Layer Options stems down for 
> Layer 4, ties down, and rests displaced by negative 6 steps.
> 
> Layer 2 I use in choral parts and keyboard parts and stems down on drum parts 
> (not to mention paired instruments on staves) so I don’t want that for cues.
> 
> You have to edit the Slash Notation staff style so that under Alternate 
> Notation you edit it to show items in other layers. Otherwise, out of the 
> box, Finale will NOT show anything else. I also add articulations and 
> expressions in other layers to be displayed, because those things need to 
> show, even in the drum part. 
> 
> I also like to Show Active Layer while in Layer 3, select the entire drum 
> staff, and Change Note Size to 75%. I do this only once the whole drum part 
> is done. Some people like the drum cues to be full-sized, but I find it gets 
> crowded at 100%. Repeat for Layer 4.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Christopher
> 
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi there can any one writing big band charts please help me with my  drum 
>> parts 
>> I have searched all over finale manuals but with no luck
>> I want to write small cue  size notes above the top staff and small cue size 
>> notes just below the staff 
>> With slash notation in the middle 
>> If someone could bullet point the process I would be extremely grateful kind 
>> regards Martin
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Finale] Big band drum parts

2018-08-19 Thread Christopher Smith
That seems right.

I reserve layer 3 for cues above the staff, and I set Layer Options so that 
Layer 3 is always stems up, ties up, and rests are displaced by 6 steps. I make 
sure the option is selected that this happens even when the other layers are 
empty.

I reserve layer 4 for cues below the staff, Layer Options stems down for Layer 
4, ties down, and rests displaced by negative 6 steps.

Layer 2 I use in choral parts and keyboard parts and stems down on drum parts 
(not to mention paired instruments on staves) so I don’t want that for cues.

You have to edit the Slash Notation staff style so that under Alternate 
Notation you edit it to show items in other layers. Otherwise, out of the box, 
Finale will NOT show anything else. I also add articulations and expressions in 
other layers to be displayed, because those things need to show, even in the 
drum part. 

I also like to Show Active Layer while in Layer 3, select the entire drum 
staff, and Change Note Size to 75%. I do this only once the whole drum part is 
done. Some people like the drum cues to be full-sized, but I find it gets 
crowded at 100%. Repeat for Layer 4.

Hope this helps.

Christopher


> On Aug 19, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi there can any one writing big band charts please help me with my  drum 
> parts 
> I have searched all over finale manuals but with no luck
> I want to write small cue  size notes above the top staff and small cue size 
> notes just below the staff 
> With slash notation in the middle 
> If someone could bullet point the process I would be extremely grateful kind 
> regards Martin
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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[Finale] Big band drum parts

2018-08-19 Thread Martin Nickless


Hi there can any one writing big band charts please help me with my  drum parts 
I have searched all over finale manuals but with no luck
I want to write small cue  size notes above the top staff and small cue size 
notes just below the staff 
With slash notation in the middle 
If someone could bullet point the process I would be extremely grateful kind 
regards Martin

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