Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)
I have been using Fin2k4 and Windows2000 to export EPS files into Pagemaker6.5 quite successfully. Make sure to uncheck Include Fonts. Which PostScript driver do you use for the EPS export? I seem to be successful with AdobePS Acrobat Distiller and Minolta QMS PagePro 1250E PS, both of which I believe use the stock Microsoft PS print driver underneath. Let me know if you want more details (file version numbers, etc). ** ~ ** ** Benjamin Smedberg, Director of Music** ** St. Patrick's Church, Washington D.C. ** ** VOX 202-347-2713 x102 - FAX 202-347-1401 ** ** [EMAIL PROTECTED]** ** Soli Deo Gloria ** ** ~ ** ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)
William, thanks, works fine. I don't have Sibelius, myself, I just tried it out at a friend's computer that has it. I didn't look in the manual but just fiddled around a bit. But I see there is, like in Finale, more depth to find in the program. However, befor I buy it I will have to evaluate some more. I have been using Finale a lng time and I can do everything I want except - EPS export... Kurt At 01:16 27.06.2004, you wrote: Kurt Gnos wrote: BUT: I found no function to export a selection, I could only export a page. Select the bars you want to export, then when you go to Save as Graphics, make sure the 'Selected systems' radio button is checked. I found no function to edit the size of a single page to separate the symstem(s) I wanted to export, I could only edit the margins of all pages, and not very confortably, either. You don't need to do this to export graphics, because you can just select the systems you want, but it's easy to create e.g. system breaks (select a barline and hit Enter on the keyboard) or page breaks (select a barline and hit Ctrl+Enter) as desired. You can also drag either end of the system to indent it, if necessary. I found no function to alter the size of a staff, or some bars, or single notes - is this not possible in Sibelius? Try the Layout - Document Setup dialog. So please, Coda, don't make me use Sibelius too much... I use both Finale 2k4 and Sibelius. Both programs are perfectly fine, but you do have to get used to the particular way they work. Sounds like you could do with spending a little bit more time with the Sibelius manual... Best, -WR -- ___ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)
On 27.06.2004 13:42 Uhr, Kurt Gnos wrote Johannes, you may have missed that Fin2k4c will not be available for Windows XP... Kurt Oh, I thought FinWin2k4 had EPS support all the way? This is new to me. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)
Kurt Gnos writes: you may have missed that Fin2k4c will not be available for Windows XP... AFAIK, EPS support in Windows NT/2000/XP is not an Fin2004 issue at all. Do you know any Finale version where you can export readable EPS files using WinNT/2000/XT? And personally, I don't understand why EPS export from within Finale is such a big issue after all. Many other solutions are available if you really need it, such as using Acrobat to produce the EPS, etc... Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)
AFAIK, EPS support in Windows NT/2000/XP is not an Fin2004 issue at all. Do you know any Finale version where you can export readable EPS files using WinNT/2000/XT? I have been using Fin2k4 and Windows2000 to export EPS files into Pagemaker6.5 quite successfully. Make sure to uncheck Include Fonts. It won't work with dumb programs that import EPS, like Microsoft Word, because they do not read the DSS comments and search the system for the proper fonts to embed. EPS export from Finale is a big issue for some of us who use Finale to produce large documents containing music (religious worship sheets and hymnals, in my case). Doing a Finale-PDF-EPS-Pagemaker workflow would be hideously time-consuming for me. I'm already considering switching to Lilypond+Latex, even though the installation/maintenance of those programs is nightmarish compared to Finale+Pagemaker. ** ~ ** ** Benjamin Smedberg, Director of Music** ** St. Patrick's Church, Washington D.C. ** ** VOX 202-347-2713 x102 - FAX 202-347-1401 ** ** [EMAIL PROTECTED]** ** Soli Deo Gloria ** ** ~ ** ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)
On 27.06.2004 14:50 Uhr, Jari Williamsson wrote And personally, I don't understand why EPS export from within Finale is such a big issue after all. Many other solutions are available if you really need it, such as using Acrobat to produce the EPS, etc... Here is why: Imagine you are doing a thematic catalogue, which, due to certain limitations cannot be done directly in Finale. Using direct EPS export you can easily use the graphics tool to mark a part of a page and export that as EPS. This is infinitely easier than to use Acrobat (which also costs extra money, and which I don't own) to export whole pages and then crop them afterwards. Imagine the catalogue was to include more than 400 incipits. I really do not want to crop everyone separately after export. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)
On 27 Jun 2004 at 14:50, Jari Williamsson wrote: Kurt Gnos writes: you may have missed that Fin2k4c will not be available for Windows XP... AFAIK, EPS support in Windows NT/2000/XP is not an Fin2004 issue at all. Do you know any Finale version where you can export readable EPS files using WinNT/2000/XT? Yes, it *is* a Finale issue. Coda's programmers blame the problem on Windows, but other companies manage to create applications than can successfully create usable EPS files. So, it *is* a problem with Finale, and with *every* version of Finale for Windows. And personally, I don't understand why EPS export from within Finale is such a big issue after all. Many other solutions are available if you really need it, such as using Acrobat to produce the EPS, etc... I don't use EPS export myself, so it's a non-issue, but the claim that it's the fault of Windows is just so incredibly bogus that it makes me mis-trust anything else Coda tells us about problems with Finale. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)
On 27 Jun 2004 at 21:21, Jari Williamsson wrote: David W. Fenton writes: AFAIK, EPS support in Windows NT/2000/XP is not an Fin2004 issue at all. Do you know any Finale version where you can export readable EPS files using WinNT/2000/XT? Yes, it *is* a Finale issue. Coda's programmers blame the problem on Windows, but other companies manage to create applications than can successfully create usable EPS files. So, it *is* a problem with Finale, and with *every* version of Finale for Windows. And... What's your point? I said it wasn't a Fin2004 issue. I did not say it wasn't a Finale issue. By definition, if it's an issue with all versions of Finale, it's an issue with any particular version. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)
Hi, I just played around with Sibelius (Win XP), and, as someone had told, EPS export works perfectly! Fonts ok, scalable perfectly, TIF preview as expected, everything behaved as it should. I chose normal EPS, and there are a lot of graphic format selections. Printed fine on my LaserJet 2100 M. BUT: I found no function to export a selection, I could only export a page. Normally I need a separate symstem or two to input in Word or Quark Xpress. So I missed a function as in Finale: Double click and highlight the selection you want to export. I found no function to edit the size of a single page to separate the symstem(s) I wanted to export, I could only edit the margins of all pages, and not very confortably, either. I found no function to alter the size of a staff, or some bars, or single notes - is this not possible in Sibelius? I must say Finale may be more complicated (doesn't bother me after 14 years or so) but much more flexible. Midi output does not work as it should (and as I set it up) BUT: EPS export works all the same So please, Coda, don't make me use Sibelius too much... cheers Kurt ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)
Kurt Gnos wrote: BUT: I found no function to export a selection, I could only export a page. Select the bars you want to export, then when you go to Save as Graphics, make sure the 'Selected systems' radio button is checked. I found no function to edit the size of a single page to separate the symstem(s) I wanted to export, I could only edit the margins of all pages, and not very confortably, either. You don't need to do this to export graphics, because you can just select the systems you want, but it's easy to create e.g. system breaks (select a barline and hit Enter on the keyboard) or page breaks (select a barline and hit Ctrl+Enter) as desired. You can also drag either end of the system to indent it, if necessary. I found no function to alter the size of a staff, or some bars, or single notes - is this not possible in Sibelius? Try the Layout - Document Setup dialog. So please, Coda, don't make me use Sibelius too much... I use both Finale 2k4 and Sibelius. Both programs are perfectly fine, but you do have to get used to the particular way they work. Sounds like you could do with spending a little bit more time with the Sibelius manual... Best, -WR -- ___ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
