Re: [Finale] FWIW: Feature suggestion
Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote: For what it's worth, here's a feature request I've sent to Makemusic: that we be able to enter hairpins from within the Expression tool. The process of entering dynamics with occurrences of dynamics-text and hairpins requires changing the tool all the time: if there were Expression metatools that were linked to the Smart Shapes (say < and >) it would save a lot of mousing around. Particularly since technically, there's supposed to be a dynamic marking before and after each hairpin anyway. David Bailey wrote: I don't have any problem with that, but I disagree that "technically there's supposed to be a dynamic marking before and after each hairpin anyway" -- I've seen countless examples where crescendo/decrescendo pairs are in the music with no dynamic marks within measures of them. Sure - perhaps I should have put placed it in the context of contemporary music. I'm sure we've all been in countless rehearsals where the conductor or player asks "what should the dim. go to". Even if you would think it's obvious from the surrounding musical context. I would hope that if they were to link them in such a way, that they would still be available in the smart-shapes menu as well. But there are already hairpins you can enter in the shape expressions, and if you enter them with metatools, they're individually editable, too. Yes but these don't break automatically over systems, don't have the line width able to be set from the Smart Shapes menu etc. What I would like to see instituted would be a user-definable set of metatools which would allow us to combine things from all the various tools as we see fit, so that we could set up our own work-spaces, and define some metatools from smartshapes, some from the expressions tool, articulations, transpositions, whatever. I can't think of an appropriate key combination to trigger such a thing, but I think it would be a terrific time saver for each of us to figure out what we use most often and have it at our finger-tips. Agreed, this would be a marvellous solution. Not that I necessarily trust Makemusic to implement such a thing in the best possible way, but it would be great. Matthew ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FWIW: Feature suggestion
D'oh! You are absolutely right, Andrew. That's what I get for trying to do 8 things at once... Allen On 4/20/05 2:17 PM, "Andrew Stiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith: > > On Apr 19, 2005, at 4:41 PM, Allen Fisher wrote: > >> I'd rather have custom smart shape hairpins that I could attach text >> to. (A >> mezzo di voce < > tool is on my list too) >> > > That's *messa* [Italian: "placement"] di voce. > > Andrew Stiller > Kallisti Music Press > http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FWIW: Feature suggestion
On Apr 19, 2005, at 4:41 PM, Allen Fisher wrote: I'd rather have custom smart shape hairpins that I could attach text to. (A mezzo di voce < > tool is on my list too) That's *messa* [Italian: "placement"] di voce. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FWIW: Feature suggestion
Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote: For what it's worth, here's a feature request I've sent to Makemusic: that we be able to enter hairpins from within the Expression tool. The process of entering dynamics with occurrences of dynamics-text and hairpins requires changing the tool all the time: if there were Expression metatools that were linked to the Smart Shapes (say < and >) it would save a lot of mousing around. Particularly since technically, there's supposed to be a dynamic marking before and after each hairpin anyway. If you like this suggestion then perhaps you could send a similar request to Makemusic. I don't have any problem with that, but I disagree that "technically there's supposed to be a dynamic marking before and after each hairpin anyway" -- I've seen countless examples where crescendo/decrescendo pairs are in the music with no dynamic marks within measures of them. I would hope that if they were to link them in such a way, that they would still be available in the smart-shapes menu as well. But there are already hairpins you can enter in the shape expressions, and if you enter them with metatools, they're individually editable, too. What I would like to see instituted would be a user-definable set of metatools which would allow us to combine things from all the various tools as we see fit, so that we could set up our own work-spaces, and define some metatools from smartshapes, some from the expressions tool, articulations, transpositions, whatever. I can't think of an appropriate key combination to trigger such a thing, but I think it would be a terrific time saver for each of us to figure out what we use most often and have it at our finger-tips. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FWIW: Feature suggestion
On Apr 19, 2005, at 4:41 PM, Allen Fisher wrote: I'd rather have custom smart shape hairpins that I could attach text to. (A mezzo di voce < > tool is on my list too) That sounds like a minor feature to implement. They already have the hairpin, they already have the text and a way of attaching it; they just have to put it together. To make this easier to use, I would like an easier way to change custom lines than the multi-click method of digging through menus. I have downloaded iKey, but I haven't succeeded in creating a working shortcut yet. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] FWIW: Feature suggestion
Good idea Matthew, I will send a similar request. George Galway -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account Sent: 19 April 2005 21:30 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] FWIW: Feature suggestion For what it's worth, here's a feature request I've sent to Makemusic: that we be able to enter hairpins from within the Expression tool. The process of entering dynamics with occurrences of dynamics-text and hairpins requires changing the tool all the time: if there were Expression metatools that were linked to the Smart Shapes (say < and >) it would save a lot of mousing around. Particularly since technically, there's supposed to be a dynamic marking before and after each hairpin anyway. If you like this suggestion then perhaps you could send a similar request to Makemusic. Matthew ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] FWIW: Feature suggestion
I'd rather have custom smart shape hairpins that I could attach text to. (A mezzo di voce < > tool is on my list too) On 4/19/05 3:29 PM, "Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith: > For what it's worth, here's a feature request I've sent to Makemusic: > that we be able to enter hairpins from within the Expression tool. > > The process of entering dynamics with occurrences of dynamics-text and > hairpins requires changing the tool all the time: if there were > Expression metatools that were linked to the Smart Shapes (say < and >) > it would save a lot of mousing around. Particularly since technically, > there's supposed to be a dynamic marking before and after each hairpin > anyway. > > If you like this suggestion then perhaps you could send a similar > request to Makemusic. > > Matthew > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] FWIW: Feature suggestion
For what it's worth, here's a feature request I've sent to Makemusic: that we be able to enter hairpins from within the Expression tool. The process of entering dynamics with occurrences of dynamics-text and hairpins requires changing the tool all the time: if there were Expression metatools that were linked to the Smart Shapes (say < and >) it would save a lot of mousing around. Particularly since technically, there's supposed to be a dynamic marking before and after each hairpin anyway. If you like this suggestion then perhaps you could send a similar request to Makemusic. Matthew ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
