RE: [Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

2007-12-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Dec 2007 at 15:38, Fisher, Allen wrote:

 You can also try ISOBUSTER: http://www.isobuster.com/isobusterdownload.php

I already had that installed and it didn't read them.

 No luck trying to rename it to whatever.iso?

Nope.

As I said, Aaron Sherber sent me the installer for a later version of 
the same software that is Win2K compatible, and I was able to burn 
CDs from the images.

I also discovered that part of the problem was my CD-ROM drive was 
not able to read disks that my CD-RW drive *was* able to read. And I 
was also able to write images with Roxio on my laptop from disks that 
could not be read by either of the drives in the old desktop. So, 
lots of fun.

At this point, I've got 3 unreadable disks (one of which I already 
knew was gone). Interestingly, age is not a predictor of which disks 
are bad -- one of the disks that's bad is from 2004, while some of 
the disks from 2001 were still readable (although the 2004 disk may 
be *partially* recoverable, since some of the software seems to be 
able to read *some* of the tracks).

My advice to everyone:

- Create backup images of all your irreplaceable live recordings, 
using standard formats only

- periodically create fresh CDs from the saved images

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RE: [Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

2007-12-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Dec 2007 at 20:40, dc wrote:

 David W. Fenton écrit:
 - Create backup images of all your irreplaceable live recordings,
 using standard formats only
 
 What is the best standard format to use?

I would use ISO format. Perhaps someone has objections to that?

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RE: [Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

2007-12-28 Thread Aaron Sherber

At 03:13 PM 12/28/2007, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 28 Dec 2007 at 20:40, dc wrote:

 David W. Fenton écrit:
 - Create backup images of all your irreplaceable live recordings,
 using standard formats only

 What is the best standard format to use?

I would use ISO format. Perhaps someone has objections to that?

I was under the impression that you can't make 
ISO images of audio CDs, but perhaps I'm wrong. 
You certainly can make an ISO image of a data CD 
with WAV files on it -- but then you may as well 
just back up the WAV files directly.


Aaron.


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RE: [Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

2007-12-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Dec 2007 at 17:01, Aaron Sherber wrote:

 At 03:13 PM 12/28/2007, David W. Fenton wrote:
  On 28 Dec 2007 at 20:40, dc wrote:
  
   David W. Fenton écrit:
   - Create backup images of all your irreplaceable live recordings,
   using standard formats only
  
   What is the best standard format to use?
  
  I would use ISO format. Perhaps someone has objections to that? 
 
 I was under the impression that you can't make 
 ISO images of audio CDs, but perhaps I'm wrong. 
 You certainly can make an ISO image of a data CD 
 with WAV files on it -- but then you may as well 
 just back up the WAV files directly.

OK, perhaps you're right, though MagicISO's UI seems to suggest that 
it can make an ISO image from an audio CD. Mind you, I can't get it 
to work, but it implies that it can. I Googled a bit, but it's one of 
those subjects where all the info. is either way elementary and 
doesn't address the subject, or jumps into the middle of a technical 
discussion that's beyond me!

So, it looks like there's no easy way to do duplicate an audio C D 
except with the original WAV files and a cue sheet (unless you want 
to commit to proprietary image formats, like Roxio's).

More information from those reading who are more knowledgable would 
be very helpful. What I'd like is a better way to create duplicate CS 
than WAV files + cue sheet (which can be prone to errors), or a 
proprietary image format (which, as I found out with my CIF files, 
may not be accessible without the original software).

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Re: [Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

2007-12-27 Thread Dick Hauser


On Dec 26, 2007, at 2:28 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:


I just discovered that some CDs have gone bad and want to recreate
them, but all I have is an Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF image.


I'm working on a Mac so I can't test this, but have you looked at  
this app?


http://www.magiciso.com/



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Re: [Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

2007-12-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 26 Dec 2007 at 18:17, Christopher Smith wrote:

 I'm sorry I can't help you on the CIF file issue, but I have had CDs  
 go bad before, and sometimes a different drive can read them. I have  
 had particular success with the Apple Superdrives, which seem to be  
 able to get past all kinds of errors that some other CD readers just  
 choke on.

Yes, I tried it on my laptop, and it couldn't read it, either.

 I feel for you. This is a very real problem these days, as burned CDs  
 don't seem to always last, and even a 70 year old vinyl disc or a 30  
 year old cassette still has SOME info on it that can be read, but a  
 ten-year-old computer file may as well be birch bark for all the good  
 it does us.
 
 I hope someone can help you out.

Well, I'm hoping that one of us has a copy of the original CD that is 
still readable. If not, we at least do have the MP3s that were ripped 
from it. In the case of the disk I was working on yesterday, I do 
have a usable disk with the vocal selections from the concert, but 
the instrumental selections may be lost forever in their original 
form.

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Re: [Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

2007-12-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Dec 2007 at 10:03, Dick Hauser wrote:

 On Dec 26, 2007, at 2:28 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
 
  I just discovered that some CDs have gone bad and want to recreate
  them, but all I have is an Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF image.
 
 I'm working on a Mac so I can't test this, but have you looked at  
 this app?
 
 http://www.magiciso.com/

Yes. That's the first thing my initial Googling directed me to, and 
it couldn't read the files, unfortunately. It can't read the disk, 
either. Nor can any of the other software I tried.

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Re: [Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

2007-12-27 Thread David W. Fenton
Well, Aaron Sherber helped me with installing a temporary copy of 
Easy CD Creator 4 on my Win2K computer, and I was able to burn a 
fresh CD from the first of the CIF files. So, as long as the rest of 
them work, I'm set.

Now, I'll have to figure out how many of these CDs I *didn't* make 
copies of before they went bad...

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions, and to Aaron especially for 
helping me resolve the whole problem.

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RE: [Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

2007-12-27 Thread Fisher, Allen
You can also try ISOBUSTER: http://www.isobuster.com/isobusterdownload.php

No luck trying to rename it to whatever.iso?

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Subject: Re: [Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

On 27 Dec 2007 at 10:03, Dick Hauser wrote:

 On Dec 26, 2007, at 2:28 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

  I just discovered that some CDs have gone bad and want to recreate
  them, but all I have is an Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF image.

 I'm working on a Mac so I can't test this, but have you looked at
 this app?

 http://www.magiciso.com/

Yes. That's the first thing my initial Googling directed me to, and
it couldn't read the files, unfortunately. It can't read the disk,
either. Nor can any of the other software I tried.

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[Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

2007-12-26 Thread David W. Fenton
I just discovered that some CDs have gone bad and want to recreate 
them, but all I have is an Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF image. When I 
Google on this, I get recommendations that various pieces of software
can read CIF files, but none of them that I've tried can read it. 
I've uploaded the cue sheet (CL3 file) and the image to here:

  http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/HimmelUndErde/Image/

(the CIF file is still uploading, because of my slow upload speed on 
my asynchronous cable broadband)

If you have any software that can read it, can you let me know? I'd 
really appreciate help on this, as I'm really afraid these CDs (which
are of live performances) may all be completely unreadable (as are 
some of the older CDs of my group's live performances), and my CIF 
files could be the last digital version of this software that's 
available.

(the reason I can't access it is because I only have the NT 4 version 
of Easy CD Creator, and can't seem to update it to work on Win2K -- 
the installer claims that I don't have 3MBs of virtual memory 
available, when I have 1.5GBs of virtual memory, plus 768MBs of real 
RAM!)

(I'm also trying to get Exact Audio Copy to read the CD, but it isn't 
getting very far -- reads the table of contents, but can't read the 
tracks)

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Re: [Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

2007-12-26 Thread Aaron Sherber

At 05:28 PM 12/26/2007, David W. Fenton wrote:
I just discovered that some CDs have gone bad and want to recreate
them, but all I have is an Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF image. When I
Google on this, I get recommendations that various pieces of software
can read CIF files, but none of them that I've tried can read it. 

What have you tried?

Aaron.

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Re: [Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

2007-12-26 Thread David W. Fenton
On 26 Dec 2007 at 18:17, Aaron Sherber wrote:

 At 05:28 PM 12/26/2007, David W. Fenton wrote:
  I just discovered that some CDs have gone bad and want to recreate
  them, but all I have is an Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF image. When I
  Google on this, I get recommendations that various pieces of software
  can read CIF files, but none of them that I've tried can read it.  
 
 What have you tried?

MagicISO and CDBurnerXP are two of them. I think I already deleted a 
couple of others. Neither of those can read the CIF files, apparently 
because they are an older format than what they expect.

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Re: [Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

2007-12-26 Thread David W. Fenton
On 26 Dec 2007 at 18:13, Aaron Sherber wrote:

 At 05:28 PM 12/26/2007, David W. Fenton wrote:
  (the reason I can't access it is because I only have the NT 4 version
  of Easy CD Creator, and can't seem to update it to work on Win2K --  
 
 Do you still have an NT4 CD? This is sort of the long way around, but 
 have you considered downloading the free Microsoft Virtual PC, 
 setting up NT4 as a virtual machine, and installing Easy CD Creator there?

Nope! Right now it seems that the trial version of CDBurnerXP thinks 
it's able to copy the CD. I'll see if it succeeds. None of the other 
software I've tried can read it, but we'll see if the new CD copy is 
usable.

(the file is still uploading to my website -- it's on its 3rd restart 
and claims to be at 65% complete; I'll believe it when I see it)

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Re: [Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

2007-12-26 Thread Christopher Smith

David,

I'm sorry I can't help you on the CIF file issue, but I have had CDs  
go bad before, and sometimes a different drive can read them. I have  
had particular success with the Apple Superdrives, which seem to be  
able to get past all kinds of errors that some other CD readers just  
choke on.


I feel for you. This is a very real problem these days, as burned CDs  
don't seem to always last, and even a 70 year old vinyl disc or a 30  
year old cassette still has SOME info on it that can be read, but a  
ten-year-old computer file may as well be birch bark for all the good  
it does us.


I hope someone can help you out.

Christopher


On Dec 26, 2007, at 5:28 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:


I just discovered that some CDs have gone bad and want to recreate
them, but all I have is an Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF image. When I
Google on this, I get recommendations that various pieces of software
can read CIF files, but none of them that I've tried can read it.
I've uploaded the cue sheet (CL3 file) and the image to here:

  http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/HimmelUndErde/Image/

(the CIF file is still uploading, because of my slow upload speed on
my asynchronous cable broadband)

If you have any software that can read it, can you let me know? I'd
really appreciate help on this, as I'm really afraid these CDs (which
are of live performances) may all be completely unreadable (as are
some of the older CDs of my group's live performances), and my CIF
files could be the last digital version of this software that's
available.

(the reason I can't access it is because I only have the NT 4 version
of Easy CD Creator, and can't seem to update it to work on Win2K --
the installer claims that I don't have 3MBs of virtual memory
available, when I have 1.5GBs of virtual memory, plus 768MBs of real
RAM!)

(I'm also trying to get Exact Audio Copy to read the CD, but it isn't
getting very far -- reads the table of contents, but can't read the
tracks)


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