Re: [Finale] How to eliminate parens in continuation of 8va
AH! if it is a revised version then make another revised version named after the composer and remove the parentheses :-) then change the font defs for the 8va/vb shapes going out with a BANG! ;-) > On 03 January 2017 at 21:55 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz > wrote: > > > On Tue, January 3, 2017 3:31 pm, Chuck Israels wrote: > > I have a custom 8va Smart Shape (one of Bill Duncan’s) that allows me to > > edit > > out the parentheses. If you can tell me how to send this custom shape, I can > > edit it to your needs (and create an 8vb one). Hope this swill help. > > Chuck, > > His are just "8-" and "15-" (above or below). The font is > Revere (my revised version for Finale). > > I thought of a custom shape, but it still means replacing them all. Guess I'm > gonna have to do that anyway. > > Convincing him he's wrong? Oh, man, I have SO many places in this score where > I wish I could do that... he wants "wraparound" slurs, too, with flat tops > (from bass clef, wrapping up around treble clef, and back to bass clef -- > kinda looking like a chef's toque). That's so far totally out of the question > -- too few nodes on Finale slurs. And huge columns of stems that go from 15vb > to 15ma. And completely phrased-based note values -- parens are beams: > q••,e•,e•,e•,(16•,16•),(16,16+16•,16),16•,(16•+16),(16,16•,16•) against > q,(e•,16),(e,e),(16,e,16),(16,32,16,32),(32,32,e,32,32),(32,16•),(16,32,32),(32,32,16),(32,32,16). > And, and, and... MY LAST CLIENT. > > Dennis > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] How to eliminate parens in continuation of 8va
if it is any consolation, redoing them all as gliss-custom-lines will mean you shouldn't have to adjust them in transposing parts :-| (whcih you will have to do with the built-in smart lines) but i do think the parentheses are helpful for distinguishing between the start and the continuation of an 8va/vb line > On Tue, January 3, 2017 4:51 pm, SN jef chippewa wrote: > > define/use a custom smart line, attached using the gliss tool (not tab > > slide). > > that way it is attached to and moves with the noteheads, as opposed to the > > built-in measure/beat-attached smart line. in custom lines you will find > > starting text, ending text and continuation parameters. > > Yeah, it's all done and he's changed his mind. I don't want to do it all over > again -- no way to modify what's there with one paramter? (90 pages of it on 8 > staves, some both above & below) > > D ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] How to eliminate parens in continuation of 8va
define/use a custom smart line, attached using the gliss tool (not tab slide). that way it is attached to and moves with the noteheads, as opposed to the built-in measure/beat-attached smart line. in custom lines you will find starting text, ending text and continuation parameters. > On 03 January 2017 at 22:00 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz > wrote: > > > On Tue, January 3, 2017 3:45 pm, Ryan Beard wrote: > > Smart Shape dialogue. Select the 8va line and edit it. > > In Left Continuation, edit that text to remove the parentheses. This will > > change all instances in the current document. > > Where are you seeing this? I have smart shape options for 8 and 15 > (where I got rid of the va and vb), but it has no continuation options. And > 8 and 15 aren't in the custom line dialogs. (Finale 2014.5) > > Dennis > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] How to eliminate parens in continuation of 8va
On Tue, January 3, 2017 3:45 pm, Ryan Beard wrote: > Smart Shape dialogue. Select the 8va line and edit it. > In Left Continuation, edit that text to remove the parentheses. This will > change all instances in the current document. Where are you seeing this? I have smart shape options for 8 and 15 (where I got rid of the va and vb), but it has no continuation options. And 8 and 15 aren't in the custom line dialogs. (Finale 2014.5) Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] How to eliminate parens in continuation of 8va
On Tue, January 3, 2017 3:31 pm, Chuck Israels wrote: > I have a custom 8va Smart Shape (one of Bill Duncan’s) that allows me to edit > out the parentheses. If you can tell me how to send this custom shape, I can > edit it to your needs (and create an 8vb one). Hope this swill help. Chuck, His are just "8-" and "15-" (above or below). The font is Revere (my revised version for Finale). I thought of a custom shape, but it still means replacing them all. Guess I'm gonna have to do that anyway. Convincing him he's wrong? Oh, man, I have SO many places in this score where I wish I could do that... he wants "wraparound" slurs, too, with flat tops (from bass clef, wrapping up around treble clef, and back to bass clef -- kinda looking like a chef's toque). That's so far totally out of the question -- too few nodes on Finale slurs. And huge columns of stems that go from 15vb to 15ma. And completely phrased-based note values -- parens are beams: q••,e•,e•,e•,(16•,16•),(16,16+16•,16),16•,(16•+16),(16,16•,16•) against q,(e•,16),(e,e),(16,e,16),(16,32,16,32),(32,32,e,32,32),(32,16•),(16,32,32),(32,32,16),(32,32,16). And, and, and... MY LAST CLIENT. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] How to eliminate parens in continuation of 8va
Smart Shape dialogue. Select the 8va line and edit it. In Left Continuation, edit that text to remove the parentheses. This will change all instances in the current document. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > > JD is right, of course. This requires replacing all the existing shapes - > perhaps not practical and certainly not pleasant. > > Chuck > > >> On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: >> >> Hi Dennis, >> >> I have a custom 8va Smart Shape (one of Bill Duncan’s) that allows me to >> edit out the parentheses. If you can tell me how to send this custom shape, >> I can edit it to your needs (and create an 8vb one). Hope this swill help. >> >> Chuck >> >> >>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> A client has decided he wants all the parentheses removed from 8va and 8vb >>> continuations (where the shape goes onto the next page). It happens a lot. I >>> don't seem to find either a smart shape option or other native way or plugin >>> to do this without re-entering each 8va and 8vb separately on each page. >>> >>> Anybody? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Dennis >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >> >> Chuck Israels >> cisra...@comcast.net >> (360) 201-3434 >> >> 8831 SE 12th Ave. >> Portland OR 97202 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > Chuck Israels > cisra...@comcast.net > (360) 201-3434 > > 8831 SE 12th Ave. > Portland OR 97202 > > > > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] How to eliminate parens in continuation of 8va
JD is right, of course. This requires replacing all the existing shapes - perhaps not practical and certainly not pleasant. Chuck > On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > > Hi Dennis, > > I have a custom 8va Smart Shape (one of Bill Duncan’s) that allows me to edit > out the parentheses. If you can tell me how to send this custom shape, I can > edit it to your needs (and create an 8vb one). Hope this swill help. > > Chuck > > >> On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> A client has decided he wants all the parentheses removed from 8va and 8vb >> continuations (where the shape goes onto the next page). It happens a lot. I >> don't seem to find either a smart shape option or other native way or plugin >> to do this without re-entering each 8va and 8vb separately on each page. >> >> Anybody? >> >> Thanks, >> Dennis >> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > Chuck Israels > cisra...@comcast.net > (360) 201-3434 > > 8831 SE 12th Ave. > Portland OR 97202 > > > > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net (360) 201-3434 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland OR 97202 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] How to eliminate parens in continuation of 8va
Hi Dennis, I have a custom 8va Smart Shape (one of Bill Duncan’s) that allows me to edit out the parentheses. If you can tell me how to send this custom shape, I can edit it to your needs (and create an 8vb one). Hope this swill help. Chuck > On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz > wrote: > > Hi all, > > A client has decided he wants all the parentheses removed from 8va and 8vb > continuations (where the shape goes onto the next page). It happens a lot. I > don't seem to find either a smart shape option or other native way or plugin > to do this without re-entering each 8va and 8vb separately on each page. > > Anybody? > > Thanks, > Dennis > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net (360) 201-3434 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland OR 97202 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] How to eliminate parens in continuation of 8va
You could create a new 8va Smart Shape and change the continuation setting for them. But then you would have to replace all of them manually. Not fun if there’s many of them. I thought one could edit the default appearance to these, but I just checked and couldn’t find a way in. I would try to lobby the client into realizing how wrong he is. But then… *** J D Thomas ThomaStudios > On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz > wrote: > > Hi all, > > A client has decided he wants all the parentheses removed from 8va and 8vb > continuations (where the shape goes onto the next page). It happens a lot. I > don't seem to find either a smart shape option or other native way or plugin > to do this without re-entering each 8va and 8vb separately on each page. > > Anybody? > > Thanks, > Dennis > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] How to eliminate parens in continuation of 8va
Presumably, convincing the client he's wrong is not an option. You may have to enter the shapes on each individual line without overlap, after you've finalized the layout. Or there's always White Out. jd On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz < bath...@maltedmedia.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > A client has decided he wants all the parentheses removed from 8va and 8vb > continuations (where the shape goes onto the next page). It happens a lot. > I > don't seem to find either a smart shape option or other native way or > plugin > to do this without re-entering each 8va and 8vb separately on each page. > > Anybody? > > Thanks, > Dennis > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] How to eliminate parens in continuation of 8va
Hi all, A client has decided he wants all the parentheses removed from 8va and 8vb continuations (where the shape goes onto the next page). It happens a lot. I don't seem to find either a smart shape option or other native way or plugin to do this without re-entering each 8va and 8vb separately on each page. Anybody? Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
