Re: [Finale] Inf Loop
A-NO-NE Music wrote: This is kinda yet another graphic problem. I am currently on FinMac2008a on OSX10.5.2. I often write a pattern for an instrument, place repeat signs graphically to bracket the pattern, then draw an arrow to the right to indicate infinity loop till cue. This used to work very well back in Fin3.7-FinMac97 days but not anymore. Shape designer gives totally unexpected results, like the object I created appears in a wrong place with handle misplaced far from I clicked. And it is almost impossible to align it to where I want to. EPS import from Illustrator CS3 gives weird white block background to cover music if I used Maestro font. TIF import is better but, again, placing and resizing will never work especially zooming won't work with these imported images. I can only resize in Shape Designer (correct?) but it jumps all over the places when I touch it. Trial and error, trial and error. Frustrating. Is there any better way? Why do you need a graphic? Why not just use the good old Broadway show staple Vamp till ready or create a text block using a font which has arrows in it to place the right-pointing you want? -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Inf Loop
On Feb 28, 2008, at 5:16 AM, dhbailey wrote: A-NO-NE Music wrote: This is kinda yet another graphic problem. I am currently on FinMac2008a on OSX10.5.2. I often write a pattern for an instrument, place repeat signs graphically to bracket the pattern, then draw an arrow to the right to indicate infinity loop till cue. This used to work very well back in Fin3.7-FinMac97 days but not anymore. Shape designer gives totally unexpected results, like the object I created appears in a wrong place with handle misplaced far from I clicked. And it is almost impossible to align it to where I want to. EPS import from Illustrator CS3 gives weird white block background to cover music if I used Maestro font. TIF import is better but, again, placing and resizing will never work especially zooming won't work with these imported images. I can only resize in Shape Designer (correct?) but it jumps all over the places when I touch it. Trial and error, trial and error. Frustrating. Is there any better way? Why do you need a graphic? Why not just use the good old Broadway show staple Vamp till ready or create a text block using a font which has arrows in it to place the right-pointing you want? Because Finale will only let you do a vamp in ALL parts at once. If he wants a repeating loop while other things go on in other parts (perhaps not coordinated in rhythm) then you have to put the repeat in as an expression of some sort. The arrow would have to be a Smart Shape, I would think, to avoid redoing it in the extracted parts (linked parts would probably break it). Hiro had posted a link; it was very clear what he needed in the link. christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Inf Loop
Hi Chris, Hiro, There's a actually a much better way to get repeats on some staves but not others -- create the repeat as usual, and then hide the repeat on selected staves as needed using a Staff Style. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 28 Feb 2008, at 7:02 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Because Finale will only let you do a vamp in ALL parts at once. If he wants a repeating loop while other things go on in other parts (perhaps not coordinated in rhythm) then you have to put the repeat in as an expression of some sort. The arrow would have to be a Smart Shape, I would think, to avoid redoing it in the extracted parts (linked parts would probably break it). ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Inf Loop
Darcy James Argue / 08.2.28 / 0:33 PM wrote: There's a actually a much better way to get repeats on some staves but not others -- create the repeat as usual, and then hide the repeat on selected staves as needed using a Staff Style. You are brilliant! Thank you! I just tried, but I got weird missing bar line: http://www.a-no-ne.com/temp/test.jpg What did I do wrong? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Inf Loop
Hi Hiro, That's very weird -- I have not seen that behavior before. I suppose if you can't find any other way around it you could fake the missing barline with a shape expression line. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 28 Feb 2008, at 1:04 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Darcy James Argue / 08.2.28 / 0:33 PM wrote: There's a actually a much better way to get repeats on some staves but not others -- create the repeat as usual, and then hide the repeat on selected staves as needed using a Staff Style. You are brilliant! Thank you! I just tried, but I got weird missing bar line: http://www.a-no-ne.com/temp/test.jpg What did I do wrong? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Inf Loop
It does not do that if the staff is not the bottom one in the system: http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/repeats.jpg I just tried, but I got weird missing bar line: http://www.a-no-ne.com/temp/test.jpg What did I do wrong? - Hiro ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Inf Loop
Ohhh, you genius! Nice catch. Christopher On 28-Feb-08, at 12:33 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Chris, Hiro, There's a actually a much better way to get repeats on some staves but not others -- create the repeat as usual, and then hide the repeat on selected staves as needed using a Staff Style. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 28 Feb 2008, at 7:02 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Because Finale will only let you do a vamp in ALL parts at once. If he wants a repeating loop while other things go on in other parts (perhaps not coordinated in rhythm) then you have to put the repeat in as an expression of some sort. The arrow would have to be a Smart Shape, I would think, to avoid redoing it in the extracted parts (linked parts would probably break it). ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Inf Loop
I just tried, but I got weird missing bar line: http://www.a-no-ne.com/temp/test.jpg might have something to do with staff style settings overriding staff group settings; you can also apply a staff style set up to only NOT break staff group barlines why would you put the arrow over the repeated bar? in new music i have always seen the arrow in the middle of the staff touching the thick part of the right repeat bar and extending through ALL measures in which the pattern is repeated (regardless of whether pattern respects time sigs or not) with all default whole rests hidden in the region. the right arrowhead is placed to align with the end of the appropriate measure or rhythmic indication an arrow over music typically indicates a transition from one state to another, the beginning and end being indicated with written out notes; i am not familiar with jazz notation, so maybe this is normal, but it is not for me anywhere as clear as an arrow through the measures. a bit sloppy, but here's what i mean: http://newmusicnotation.com/TEMPFILES/repeats.pdf ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Inf Loop
This is kinda yet another graphic problem. I am currently on FinMac2008a on OSX10.5.2. I often write a pattern for an instrument, place repeat signs graphically to bracket the pattern, then draw an arrow to the right to indicate infinity loop till cue. This used to work very well back in Fin3.7-FinMac97 days but not anymore. Shape designer gives totally unexpected results, like the object I created appears in a wrong place with handle misplaced far from I clicked. And it is almost impossible to align it to where I want to. EPS import from Illustrator CS3 gives weird white block background to cover music if I used Maestro font. TIF import is better but, again, placing and resizing will never work especially zooming won't work with these imported images. I can only resize in Shape Designer (correct?) but it jumps all over the places when I touch it. Trial and error, trial and error. Frustrating. Is there any better way? -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
