Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Craig Parmerlee]

On 11/22/2015 3:53 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
> Because you mistyped 2015.5 :)

Must be a Freudian slip.  Let us hope so anyway.

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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Chuck Israels]

Because you mistyped 2015.5 :)

Chuck


> On Nov 22, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
> 
> I don't understand that comment.  Both 2014 and 2014.5 are available. 
> Can you please elaborate?
> 
> 
> On 11/22/2015 2:16 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote:
> 
>> My gut feel is that you are using a product that isn't available.
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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Craig Parmerlee]

I don't understand that comment.  Both 2014 and 2014.5 are available. 
Can you please elaborate?


On 11/22/2015 2:16 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote:

> My gut feel is that you are using a product that isn't available.

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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Chuck Israels]

JW Space Empty Rests

It worked twice on one part.  As soon as I move to a new part, it stops working.

Damned irritating.


> On Nov 22, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Les and Raymond.  It was “Respect instrument ranges” that caused the 
> octave shifting behavior.
> 
> I just rechecked the JW Space Empty Rests plugin.  I can make it work by 
> replacing the plugin with a newly downloaded one, and then it works.  I will 
> report when it doesn’t work the next time, but experience indicates that it 
> will stop.
> 
> Chuck
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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Chuck Israels]

Thanks, Les and Raymond.  It was “Respect instrument ranges” that caused the 
octave shifting behavior.

I just rechecked the JW Space Empty Rests plugin.  I can make it work by 
replacing the plugin with a newly downloaded one, and then it works.  I will 
report when it doesn’t work the next time, but experience indicates that it 
will stop.

Chuck


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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Chuck Israels]

Aha!  That must be the explanation.  Makes sense with what I am seeing.

Thank you, Les.


> On Nov 22, 2015, at 12:09 PM, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Chuck – re: the octave shifts when copying from one staff to another: 
> take a look to make sure “respect ranges when copying” isn’t selected.
> 
> Go to Edit – Preferences – Edit and uncheck if you don’t want octaves to be 
> altered into the target instruments’ ranges...which MAY be the problem you’re 
> experiencing.   That one caught me immediately when I started working in 
> 2014.5.
> 
> Hope it helps!   
> 
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> (209) 966-6988 (H)
> (559) 708-6027 (Limited-reception cell)
> 7145 Snyder Creek Road
> Mariposa, CA 95338-9641
> 
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> Board Director, Economic Development Corporation of Mariposa County
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Chuck Israels 
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 11:45 AM
> To: finale@shsu.edu 
> Subject: Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5
> 
> I asked for the old colored palettes too.  Easier for me to see.  When I 
> spoke on the phone to someone knowledgable at MM about this some time ago, 
> she said that is was not a trivial fix - not as easy as it appeared to be.  I 
> took here at her word, but it is still irritating to me that something useful 
> that was there earlier has been removed.
> 
> I am also experiencing strange octave shifts when copying from one staff to 
> another.  This seems random, but logic tells me that there must be a pattern 
> to it.  If I discover the pattern, I will report it.  Until then, I am 
> wondering if I am the only one experiencing this.
> 
> Chuck
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am experiencing several compatibility issues with Windows 10. Need always
>> to make sure I run as administrator (which should be by default) and check
>> compatibility issues every now and then.
>> 
>> And wasn't it that they were to rebundle the option of changing palettes?
>> 
>> Rafael J
>> 
>> On 22 November 2015 at 21:16, Jari Williamsson <
>> jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2015-11-22 20:05, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
>>>> My gut feel is that 2015.5 is a little better than 2014 on
>>>> balance,
>>> 
>>> My gut feel is that you are using a product that isn't available.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Raymond Horton]

Could the octave changes be from adjusting for instrument ranges? That can
be turned off. Mind you, I do not have the new version installed, I'm using
2014
On Nov 22, 2015 2:46 PM, "Chuck Israels"  wrote:

> I asked for the old colored palettes too.  Easier for me to see.  When I
> spoke on the phone to someone knowledgable at MM about this some time ago,
> she said that is was not a trivial fix - not as easy as it appeared to be.
> I took here at her word, but it is still irritating to me that something
> useful that was there earlier has been removed.
>
> I am also experiencing strange octave shifts when copying from one staff
> to another.  This seems random, but logic tells me that there must be a
> pattern to it.  If I discover the pattern, I will report it.  Until then, I
> am wondering if I am the only one experiencing this.
>
> Chuck
>
> > On Nov 22, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya <
> rjunch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am experiencing several compatibility issues with Windows 10. Need
> always
> > to make sure I run as administrator (which should be by default) and
> check
> > compatibility issues every now and then.
> >
> > And wasn't it that they were to rebundle the option of changing palettes?
> >
> > Rafael J
> >
> > On 22 November 2015 at 21:16, Jari Williamsson <
> > jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2015-11-22 20:05, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
> >>> My gut feel is that 2015.5 is a little better than 2014 on
> >>> balance,
> >>
> >> My gut feel is that you are using a product that isn't available.
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Jari Williamsson
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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Mariposa Symphony Orchestra]

Hi, Chuck – re: the octave shifts when copying from one staff to another: take 
a look to make sure “respect ranges when copying” isn’t selected.

Go to Edit – Preferences – Edit and uncheck if you don’t want octaves to be 
altered into the target instruments’ ranges...which MAY be the problem you’re 
experiencing.   That one caught me immediately when I started working in 2014.5.

Hope it helps!   

Les Marsden
(209) 966-6988 (H)
(559) 708-6027 (Limited-reception cell)
7145 Snyder Creek Road
Mariposa, CA 95338-9641

National Park Service Centennial Ambassador
Board Director, Yosemite Gateway Partners (YGP)
President, Mariposa County Arts Council, Incorporated
Board Director, Economic Development Corporation of Mariposa County
Founding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony Orchestra ♫ ♪ ♫

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http://tinyurl.com/ygpj7og  
Mariposa Symphony Orchestra: http://tinyurl.com/MariposaSO 


 

From: Chuck Israels 
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 11:45 AM
To: finale@shsu.edu 
Subject: Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

I asked for the old colored palettes too.  Easier for me to see.  When I spoke 
on the phone to someone knowledgable at MM about this some time ago, she said 
that is was not a trivial fix - not as easy as it appeared to be.  I took here 
at her word, but it is still irritating to me that something useful that was 
there earlier has been removed.

I am also experiencing strange octave shifts when copying from one staff to 
another.  This seems random, but logic tells me that there must be a pattern to 
it.  If I discover the pattern, I will report it.  Until then, I am wondering 
if I am the only one experiencing this.

Chuck

> On Nov 22, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya  
> wrote:
> 
> I am experiencing several compatibility issues with Windows 10. Need always
> to make sure I run as administrator (which should be by default) and check
> compatibility issues every now and then.
> 
> And wasn't it that they were to rebundle the option of changing palettes?
> 
> Rafael J
> 
> On 22 November 2015 at 21:16, Jari Williamsson <
> jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-11-22 20:05, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
>>> My gut feel is that 2015.5 is a little better than 2014 on
>>> balance,
>> 
>> My gut feel is that you are using a product that isn't available.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Jari Williamsson
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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Chuck Israels]

And JW Space Empty Rests does not work for me.  I downloaded the most recent 
version (which I believed I already had - and probably did), after which it 
worked when I tested it.  Now, two days later, it does not.\

Chuck

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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Steve Parker]

100% agree.

> On 22 Nov 2015, at 19:10, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
> 
> On 11/22/2015 9:09 AM, Steve Parker wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve beta tested notation products before and understand that things need 
>> prioritising and that pro users are often not the significant user base but..
> 
> 
> Sure, but I don't see any excuse for:
> 
> - Not fixing the HP problem with overlapping note-on note-off causing 
> notes to go silent
> 
> - not fixing the failure to save music spacing.
> 
> These are quite fundamental and affect nearly every user.  I believe 
> these are both bugs that were introduced in 2014, and among the top 
> reasons for 2014's bad reputation in the market.  I would have thought 
> these would be at the top of the fix list.
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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Chuck Israels]

I asked for the old colored palettes too.  Easier for me to see.  When I spoke 
on the phone to someone knowledgable at MM about this some time ago, she said 
that is was not a trivial fix - not as easy as it appeared to be.  I took here 
at her word, but it is still irritating to me that something useful that was 
there earlier has been removed.

I am also experiencing strange octave shifts when copying from one staff to 
another.  This seems random, but logic tells me that there must be a pattern to 
it.  If I discover the pattern, I will report it.  Until then, I am wondering 
if I am the only one experiencing this.

Chuck

> On Nov 22, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya  
> wrote:
> 
> I am experiencing several compatibility issues with Windows 10. Need always
> to make sure I run as administrator (which should be by default) and check
> compatibility issues every now and then.
> 
> And wasn't it that they were to rebundle the option of changing palettes?
> 
> Rafael J
> 
> On 22 November 2015 at 21:16, Jari Williamsson <
> jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-11-22 20:05, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
>>> My gut feel is that 2015.5 is a little better than 2014 on
>>> balance,
>> 
>> My gut feel is that you are using a product that isn't available.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

I am experiencing several compatibility issues with Windows 10. Need always
to make sure I run as administrator (which should be by default) and check
compatibility issues every now and then.

And wasn't it that they were to rebundle the option of changing palettes?

Rafael J

On 22 November 2015 at 21:16, Jari Williamsson <
jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se> wrote:

> On 2015-11-22 20:05, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
> >My gut feel is that 2015.5 is a little better than 2014 on
> > balance,
>
> My gut feel is that you are using a product that isn't available.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Jari Williamsson]

On 2015-11-22 20:05, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
>My gut feel is that 2015.5 is a little better than 2014 on
> balance,

My gut feel is that you are using a product that isn't available.


Best regards,

Jari Williamsson

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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Craig Parmerlee]

On 11/22/2015 9:09 AM, Steve Parker wrote:
>
> I’ve beta tested notation products before and understand that things need 
> prioritising and that pro users are often not the significant user base but..


Sure, but I don't see any excuse for:

- Not fixing the HP problem with overlapping note-on note-off causing 
notes to go silent

- not fixing the failure to save music spacing.

These are quite fundamental and affect nearly every user.  I believe 
these are both bugs that were introduced in 2014, and among the top 
reasons for 2014's bad reputation in the market.  I would have thought 
these would be at the top of the fix list.

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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Craig Parmerlee]

On 11/22/2015 9:06 AM, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya wrote:
> Wonder why they have released a version that is so buggy. I came back to
> 2014d because 2014.5 makes a lot of problems...
>

I didn't keep a good list of all the things that were really messed up 
in 2014, so I can't say that one release is quantitatively better than 
the other.  My gut feel is that 2015.5 is a little better than 2014 on 
balance, but it is disappointing to see so many of the real problems not 
addressed, and new bugs introduced.

If this is the beginning of a process to take the product quality 
seriously, then it will be the best news in several years.  If, on the 
other hand, we are looking at another year before anything else is 
fixed, that would not be good.

I hope we can hear from the company with some idea about how they plan 
to proceed.

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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Steve Parker]

> The problem must be in the testing cycle.  Users, actual users, not novice or 
> pretend users, seem to only take a few hours or days to turn up problems, 
> problems that should have been detected in alpha tests and never made it to 
> beta.

This is what I don’t get. I’d assumed that a number of the beta testers were 
well known folks on this list.
I’ve beta tested notation products before and understand that things need 
prioritising and that pro users are often not the significant user base but..

2014.5 is better in that it doesn’t crash with dialogue boxes in El Capitan.
Non sticky ties and staff styles are new problems for me - as in 2014 in El 
Capitan was fine here.
Items that won’t delete are a serious problem.
Pause and stop not ending playback is also a pain. I rarely need playback but I 
regularly hit the spacebar by accident…

Steve P.
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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Wonder why they have released a version that is so buggy. I came back to
2014d because 2014.5 makes a lot of problems...

Rafael Junchaya

On 22 November 2015 at 14:14, David H. Bailey 
wrote:

> On 11/22/2015 6:38 AM, Graeme Gerrard wrote:
> > I don’t get it.  I am sure the new owners and engineers have been
> working hard and long on 2014.5.  But again, a release has emerged that
> can’t have been thoroughly tested or it wouldn’t have seen the light of day!
> >
> > The problem must be in the testing cycle.  Users, actual users, not
> novice or pretend users, seem to only take a few hours or days to turn up
> problems, problems that should have been detected in alpha tests and never
> made it to beta.
> > The need to “get something out the door” seems to over-ride pride in
> producing something good.  I am aware it is a massively complex product, or
> set of products.
> > ..and when there’s no real competition….
> > Actually Musescore isn’t anywhere near Finale yet, but there is a drive
> there to make a better product that is clearly missing among “professional”
> producers.
> > Graeme
> >
>
>
> Actually, with version 2 I think Musescore got a lot closer to Finale
> than many think, and for many people who use notation software,
> Musescore is all they will ever need.  Not professional engravers, but
> hobbyist musicians, students, and composers who need good notation but
> not all the intricacies of Finale or Sibelius (or the expense).
>
> While I do some professional engraving projects when the opportunity
> arises using either Finale or Sibelius if the customer specifies, I find
> that when left to my own choices and for all the new projects of my own
> I use Sibelius and get wonderful results without many of the
> frustrations that recent versions of Finale have introduced.  These are
> the kinds of projects which for years I used Finale for.  So I'm not
> quite sure why you're saying that there is "no real competition" for
> Finale.  Certainly there is with Sibelius, except that its corporate
> ownership doesn't seem to be any better than Finale's corporate
> ownership.  And some new notation software users are going with Notion,
> although it's got a ways to go before it will catch up with Sibelius or
> Finale for more complex notation needs.  But at least Notion has a
> usable tablet version using the same file format which allows users to
> do a lot while away from their primary computers without the somewhat
> lossy migration using MusicXML (but at least that's a huge improvement
> over MIDI migration).  That's something that both Sibelius and Finale
> would do well to emulate!
>
> Steinberg's notation product is still far from the marketplace so we
> have no clue whether it will be significant competition or not --
> certainly they are pouring lots of development dollars into it with no
> publicly visible corporate pressure to rush an incomplete product to
> market.  And their development team is headed by a person with a proven
> track record of leading solid development of notation software.
>
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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[David H. Bailey]

On 11/22/2015 6:38 AM, Graeme Gerrard wrote:
> I don’t get it.  I am sure the new owners and engineers have been working 
> hard and long on 2014.5.  But again, a release has emerged that can’t have 
> been thoroughly tested or it wouldn’t have seen the light of day!
>
> The problem must be in the testing cycle.  Users, actual users, not novice or 
> pretend users, seem to only take a few hours or days to turn up problems, 
> problems that should have been detected in alpha tests and never made it to 
> beta.
> The need to “get something out the door” seems to over-ride pride in 
> producing something good.  I am aware it is a massively complex product, or 
> set of products.
> ..and when there’s no real competition….
> Actually Musescore isn’t anywhere near Finale yet, but there is a drive there 
> to make a better product that is clearly missing among “professional” 
> producers.
> Graeme
>


Actually, with version 2 I think Musescore got a lot closer to Finale 
than many think, and for many people who use notation software, 
Musescore is all they will ever need.  Not professional engravers, but 
hobbyist musicians, students, and composers who need good notation but 
not all the intricacies of Finale or Sibelius (or the expense).

While I do some professional engraving projects when the opportunity 
arises using either Finale or Sibelius if the customer specifies, I find 
that when left to my own choices and for all the new projects of my own 
I use Sibelius and get wonderful results without many of the 
frustrations that recent versions of Finale have introduced.  These are 
the kinds of projects which for years I used Finale for.  So I'm not 
quite sure why you're saying that there is "no real competition" for 
Finale.  Certainly there is with Sibelius, except that its corporate 
ownership doesn't seem to be any better than Finale's corporate 
ownership.  And some new notation software users are going with Notion, 
although it's got a ways to go before it will catch up with Sibelius or 
Finale for more complex notation needs.  But at least Notion has a 
usable tablet version using the same file format which allows users to 
do a lot while away from their primary computers without the somewhat 
lossy migration using MusicXML (but at least that's a huge improvement 
over MIDI migration).  That's something that both Sibelius and Finale 
would do well to emulate!

Steinberg's notation product is still far from the marketplace so we 
have no clue whether it will be significant competition or not -- 
certainly they are pouring lots of development dollars into it with no 
publicly visible corporate pressure to rush an incomplete product to 
market.  And their development team is headed by a person with a proven 
track record of leading solid development of notation software.


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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Graeme Gerrard]

I don’t get it.  I am sure the new owners and engineers have been working hard 
and long on 2014.5.  But again, a release has emerged that can’t have been 
thoroughly tested or it wouldn’t have seen the light of day!

The problem must be in the testing cycle.  Users, actual users, not novice or 
pretend users, seem to only take a few hours or days to turn up problems, 
problems that should have been detected in alpha tests and never made it to 
beta.
The need to “get something out the door” seems to over-ride pride in producing 
something good.  I am aware it is a massively complex product, or set of 
products.
..and when there’s no real competition….
Actually Musescore isn’t anywhere near Finale yet, but there is a drive there 
to make a better product that is clearly missing among “professional” producers.
Graeme


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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[David H. Bailey]

On 11/22/2015 1:07 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
> FWIW, I have been keeping a list of the bizarre behaviors I have seen
> with 2014.5.  I have about 10 new bugs that never happened to me before
> now and several of the most annoying prior problems that have not been
> addressed.
>
> One of the things that drove me crazy was the bugs in the Cautionary
> Accidentals.  Supposedly this was fixed in 2014.5, but it isn't.  The
> plug-in does far more harm than good.  I used this on every score back
> in 2012.  Now I have to do all that manually to make sure it doesn't get
> screwed up.  The fact that this was on the list of fixes tells me there
> isn't a very good understanding of some of the problems.
>
> On balance, I think 2014.5 is at least a small step forward.
>
[snip]

How is it a small step forward?

So far all I've read about are new bugs, supposedly fixed bugs which 
aren't actually fixed, and old bugs which weren't even addressed.

What are the advantages of 2014.5 over 2014 or 2012?
I'm a Windows user, so the compatibility with newer OSx upgrades isn't 
important to me (although if it's true, I'm happy for Mac users).


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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Craig Parmerlee]

FWIW, I have been keeping a list of the bizarre behaviors I have seen 
with 2014.5.  I have about 10 new bugs that never happened to me before 
now and several of the most annoying prior problems that have not been 
addressed.

One of the things that drove me crazy was the bugs in the Cautionary 
Accidentals.  Supposedly this was fixed in 2014.5, but it isn't.  The 
plug-in does far more harm than good.  I used this on every score back 
in 2012.  Now I have to do all that manually to make sure it doesn't get 
screwed up.  The fact that this was on the list of fixes tells me there 
isn't a very good understanding of some of the problems.

On balance, I think 2014.5 is at least a small step forward.



On 11/21/2015 6:34 PM, Steve Parker wrote:
> Flipped ties keep reverting. Staff styles also keep going back to initial 
> state.
>
> Steve P.
>
>> On 21 Nov 2015, at 19:23, Steve Parker  wrote:
>>
>> I seem to have a few new bugs in 2014.5.
>>
>> Some expressions are un-deletable with the delete key, but delete if 
>> selected then deleted from the control-click menu.
>> Sometimes stop and pause (and the spacebar) won’t stop playback which 
>> continues for a few bars or to the end.
>>
>> Finale also seems to be loading up instruments that are not in the score.
>>
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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Steve Parker]

Flipped ties keep reverting. Staff styles also keep going back to initial state.

Steve P.

> On 21 Nov 2015, at 19:23, Steve Parker  wrote:
> 
> I seem to have a few new bugs in 2014.5.
> 
> Some expressions are un-deletable with the delete key, but delete if selected 
> then deleted from the control-click menu.
> Sometimes stop and pause (and the spacebar) won’t stop playback which 
> continues for a few bars or to the end.
> 
> Finale also seems to be loading up instruments that are not in the score.
> 
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[Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Steve Parker]

I seem to have a few new bugs in 2014.5.

Some expressions are un-deletable with the delete key, but delete if selected 
then deleted from the control-click menu.
Sometimes stop and pause (and the spacebar) won’t stop playback which continues 
for a few bars or to the end.

Finale also seems to be loading up instruments that are not in the score.

Steve P.
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