[Finale] OPTIMIZING staff system
OK, I've had this problem before, but I can't remember how I solved it. Maybe you guys can help. No matter what I do, the piano part will not optimize into one staff at any point. I have checked in Edit Group Attributes and made sure it is set on Optimize Staves Normally (although after trying to optimize a few times, it reverts back to Only Remove When All Staves Are Empty). I have made there are no entries in the blank staff in the systems I'm trying to optimize. I've checked in the Staff Systems attributes to make sure both staves have Allow Optimization checked. Any ideas? All the best, KIM Richmond ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OPTIMIZING staff system
Kim Richmond wrote: OK, I've had this problem before, but I can't remember how I solved it. Maybe you guys can help. No matter what I do, the piano part will not optimize into one staff at any point. I have checked in Edit Group Attributes and made sure it is set on Optimize Staves Normally (although after trying to optimize a few times, it reverts back to Only Remove When All Staves Are Empty). I have made there are no entries in the blank staff in the systems I'm trying to optimize. I've checked in the Staff Systems attributes to make sure both staves have Allow Optimization checked. Any ideas? All the best, Do you have any real whole rests? These are created when you enter a whole note and backspace to convert to a rest, in Speedy Entry, or simply entered as a rest by clicking in Simple entry. If there are any of these (they look just like the whole rests inserted into empty measures by the program) the staff won't be optimized out. If the staff is supposed to be truly empty, you can simply use mass mover to highlight the measures in question and then clear everything. But if there is anything attached to those specific measures you can't remove that staff from that system. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OPTIMIZING staff system
On Oct 11, 2004, at 3:44 AM, Kim Richmond wrote: OK, I've had this problem before, but I can't remember how I solved it. Maybe you guys can help. No matter what I do, the piano part will not optimize into one staff at any point. I have checked in Edit Group Attributes and made sure it is set on Optimize Staves Normally (although after trying to optimize a few times, it reverts back to Only Remove When All Staves Are Empty). I have made there are no entries in the blank staff in the systems I'm trying to optimize. I've checked in the Staff Systems attributes to make sure both staves have Allow Optimization checked. Any ideas? All the best, KIM Richmond If you have already tried optimising, you will have to REMOVE optimisation before the Group Attributes can be changed. Then go back and optimise again. I don't why it works like this. It just does. This little tidbit cost me several hours a year or two ago. Grr. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OPTIMIZING staff system = Stupid Finale Tricks
At 08:40 AM 10/11/04 -0400, Christopher Smith wrote: If you have already tried optimising, you will have to REMOVE optimisation before the Group Attributes can be changed. Then go back and optimise again. I don't why it works like this. It just does. This little tidbit cost me several hours a year or two ago. Grr. Warnings and advice messages are spare in Finale (though this may have changed since 2K3, which I use). I had an embarrassing moment just a few weeks due to my haste combined with the lack of critical Finale warnings in part extraction (or even an identification on the score that part extraction is turned on). I had to make a change in a part for my orchestral piece in rehearsal -- just a small thing, moving to another player about 8 measures on the last page of a part. I made the change in the part, printed it again, ran out the door, and drove 120 miles to the rehearsal. Since it was on the last page, I didn't check for page turns, or I would have noticed that ... yes, I hadn't toggled part extraction off and on, so that change was still hidden under the block rest. :( Pen ink came to the rescue until the next day. A little warning like this might have helped: Special part extraction is ON. Changes made within hidden areas will not be visible. To show changes, re-extract this part. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OPTIMIZING staff system
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 00:44:02 -0700, Kim Richmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I've had this problem before, but I can't remember how I solved it. Maybe you guys can help. No matter what I do, the piano part will not optimize into one staff at any point. I have checked in Edit Group Attributes and made sure it is set on Optimize Staves Normally (although after trying to optimize a few times, it reverts back to Only Remove When All Staves Are Empty). I have made there are no entries in the blank staff in the systems I'm trying to optimize. I've checked in the Staff Systems attributes to make sure both staves have Allow Optimization checked. Any ideas? The reason is that, after optimizing, each system's groups are individually defined. If you optimized the piece with Only Remove... set, you will have to change each and every system's Piano part to make it work the way you want. The easiest way to fix this is to change the Group attributes in Scroll view (the master or default staff/group settings location) and then apply TGTools' Update Groups plug-in. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
