Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
There are a number of examples of this in Britten's operas -- not exactly au courant, but I've always found him to be a model of notational clarity. He used both "Missus" and "Mrs."; a quick flip through some scores shows more of the latter than the former. Aaron. On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 5:21 AM Giovanni Andreani wrote: > I would consider using the word extension symbol; although it is intended > for a melisma, it might point out the composer’s intention and, as Jennifer > Higdon points out, the singer should be able to find the best placing. > > > > > Giovanni Andreani > > www.giovanniandreani.com > www.ga-music.com > > > > On 28 Aug 2019, at 02:43, Michael Edwards > wrote: > > > > [ Robert Patterson: ] > > > >> FWIW (joking aside) my copy of Merriam Webster correctly identifies > >> "missus" as dialect in one of the definitions, and I would rather avoid > >> that implication. > > > > In that case, how would "Mr - s." go? But that might cause the > singer to start pronouncing "Mister" - although surely as they got to know > the line they would realize it's not that, so it shouldn't be an issue. > (Nothing seems truly satisfactory.) Maybe "mis-sus" or "miss-us" in > parentheses underneath the "Mr - s." would look like a pronunciation > guide rather than dialect. > > Or, alternatively, "Mrs. -" (the hyphen acting as a syllable > extension and going under the second note). That wouldn't need the > pronunciation guide underneath in parentheses. > > > > Michael Edwards. > > > > > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
I would consider using the word extension symbol; although it is intended for a melisma, it might point out the composer’s intention and, as Jennifer Higdon points out, the singer should be able to find the best placing. Giovanni Andreani www.giovanniandreani.com www.ga-music.com > On 28 Aug 2019, at 02:43, Michael Edwards wrote: > > [ Robert Patterson: ] > >> FWIW (joking aside) my copy of Merriam Webster correctly identifies >> "missus" as dialect in one of the definitions, and I would rather avoid >> that implication. > > In that case, how would "Mr - s." go? But that might cause the singer > to start pronouncing "Mister" - although surely as they got to know the line > they would realize it's not that, so it shouldn't be an issue. (Nothing > seems truly satisfactory.) Maybe "mis-sus" or "miss-us" in parentheses > underneath the "Mr - s." would look like a pronunciation guide rather than > dialect. > Or, alternatively, "Mrs. -" (the hyphen acting as a syllable extension > and going under the second note). That wouldn't need the pronunciation guide > underneath in parentheses. > > Michael Edwards. > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
This is a pretty trivial matter, but since it is being discused, might as well get it right Interesting that you say MISSUS is the preferred form of the abbreviation “Mrs.”. Please provide your reference source. Missis and Missus are two different words with different uses: missis is the prefix, missus is a stand-alone slang noun. Missus is used by itself in an inform reference to a man’s spouse. “Me and the missus are going out”. It is not the prefix in addressing a woman by name. “Mrs Delfin, isn’t here”... the predix is written out as “Missis Delfin”. “Mrs., first recorded in the early 17th century, was originally, like Miss, an abbreviation of mistress.Mrs. and mistress were at first used interchangeably in all contexts, but by the second half of that century, the written form of the abbreviation was largely confined to use as a title preceding a woman's surname. By the early 19th century, reduction of the medial consonant cluster had contracted the usual pronunciation of the title from [mis-tris] to [mis-is] or [mis-iz] . The contracted pronunciation used other than as a title was not considered standard, and today, locutions like Let me discuss it with the missis are perceived as old-fashioned. Currently, two main types of pronunciation for the abbreviation occur in the United States; [mis-iz] and sometimes [mis-is] are the common forms in the North and North Midland, while in the South Midland and South, the prevalent types are [miz-iz] and [miz] , the latter homophonous with the usual pronunciation of the abbreviation Ms.”. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/mrs > On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:55 PM, Jon Delfin wrote: > > "Mis-sus" is the accepted spelling/syllabification in music and in text. > There's also at least one movie title that uses it. It's not offensive (the > dictionary's reference to "dialect" is not prohibitive or damning). If > everyone refuses to accept a century of precedent, I have nothing further. > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 9:03 PM Christopher Smith < > christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote: > >> In “Me and Mrs. Jones” the publisher spells it “mis-sus”, which I am not >> sure about. I would have spelled it as “miss-es”, since it is pronounced >> the same as “hits and misses” with the last “s” voiced (“z”) and nobody has >> to question whether it’s actually unvoiced the way they would if you >> spelled it “mis-sus”. >> >> The Paul Simon music I have seen (Mrs. Robinson) is variously spelled >> “mis-sus” and “Mrs._” with a slur over two notes, which I think is dead >> wrong. >> >> Christopher >> >>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:43 PM, Michael Edwards >> wrote: >>> >>> [ Robert Patterson: ] >>> FWIW (joking aside) my copy of Merriam Webster correctly identifies "missus" as dialect in one of the definitions, and I would rather avoid that implication. >>> >>>In that case, how would "Mr - s." go? But that might cause the >> singer to start pronouncing "Mister" - although surely as they got to know >> the line they would realize it's not that, so it shouldn't be an issue. >> (Nothing seems truly satisfactory.) Maybe "mis-sus" or "miss-us" in >> parentheses underneath the "Mr - s." would look like a pronunciation >> guide rather than dialect. >>>Or, alternatively, "Mrs. -" (the hyphen acting as a syllable >> extension and going under the second note). That wouldn't need the >> pronunciation guide underneath in parentheses. >>> >>> Michael Edwards. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
"Mis-sus" is the accepted spelling/syllabification in music and in text. There's also at least one movie title that uses it. It's not offensive (the dictionary's reference to "dialect" is not prohibitive or damning). If everyone refuses to accept a century of precedent, I have nothing further. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 9:03 PM Christopher Smith < christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote: > In “Me and Mrs. Jones” the publisher spells it “mis-sus”, which I am not > sure about. I would have spelled it as “miss-es”, since it is pronounced > the same as “hits and misses” with the last “s” voiced (“z”) and nobody has > to question whether it’s actually unvoiced the way they would if you > spelled it “mis-sus”. > > The Paul Simon music I have seen (Mrs. Robinson) is variously spelled > “mis-sus” and “Mrs._” with a slur over two notes, which I think is dead > wrong. > > Christopher > > > On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:43 PM, Michael Edwards > wrote: > > > > [ Robert Patterson: ] > > > >> FWIW (joking aside) my copy of Merriam Webster correctly identifies > >> "missus" as dialect in one of the definitions, and I would rather avoid > >> that implication. > > > > In that case, how would "Mr - s." go? But that might cause the > singer to start pronouncing "Mister" - although surely as they got to know > the line they would realize it's not that, so it shouldn't be an issue. > (Nothing seems truly satisfactory.) Maybe "mis-sus" or "miss-us" in > parentheses underneath the "Mr - s." would look like a pronunciation > guide rather than dialect. > > Or, alternatively, "Mrs. -" (the hyphen acting as a syllable > extension and going under the second note). That wouldn't need the > pronunciation guide underneath in parentheses. > > > > Michael Edwards. > > > > > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
In “Me and Mrs. Jones” the publisher spells it “mis-sus”, which I am not sure about. I would have spelled it as “miss-es”, since it is pronounced the same as “hits and misses” with the last “s” voiced (“z”) and nobody has to question whether it’s actually unvoiced the way they would if you spelled it “mis-sus”. The Paul Simon music I have seen (Mrs. Robinson) is variously spelled “mis-sus” and “Mrs._” with a slur over two notes, which I think is dead wrong. Christopher > On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:43 PM, Michael Edwards wrote: > > [ Robert Patterson: ] > >> FWIW (joking aside) my copy of Merriam Webster correctly identifies >> "missus" as dialect in one of the definitions, and I would rather avoid >> that implication. > > In that case, how would "Mr - s." go? But that might cause the singer > to start pronouncing "Mister" - although surely as they got to know the line > they would realize it's not that, so it shouldn't be an issue. (Nothing > seems truly satisfactory.) Maybe "mis-sus" or "miss-us" in parentheses > underneath the "Mr - s." would look like a pronunciation guide rather than > dialect. > Or, alternatively, "Mrs. -" (the hyphen acting as a syllable extension > and going under the second note). That wouldn't need the pronunciation guide > underneath in parentheses. > > Michael Edwards. > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
[ Robert Patterson: ] FWIW (joking aside) my copy of Merriam Webster correctly identifies "missus" as dialect in one of the definitions, and I would rather avoid that implication. In that case, how would "Mr - s." go? But that might cause the singer to start pronouncing "Mister" - although surely as they got to know the line they would realize it's not that, so it shouldn't be an issue. (Nothing seems truly satisfactory.) Maybe "mis-sus" or "miss-us" in parentheses underneath the "Mr - s." would look like a pronunciation guide rather than dialect. Or, alternatively, "Mrs. -" (the hyphen acting as a syllable extension and going under the second note). That wouldn't need the pronunciation guide underneath in parentheses. Michael Edwards. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
Perhaps including the precise syllabification in small type in addition to the "official" working in the regular type. -Original Message- From: Finale [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of timothy price Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 12:32 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.: Sometimes spellings errors are there to match the rhyming patterns. AWALNATION does “Bad Wolf” with: “Oh my God I think I might’ve made a mustake Waiting patiently was waiting taking up space We are waiting taking up space.” But all I got was “how do you notate “Mrs.”, a one syllable word, over two notes? Well simple, you don’t want to abbreviate the word. The proper word for the intent and purpose is “Mis-sis”. English language is quite well developed. best tim > On Aug 27, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Don Hart wrote: > > Or, along the lines of my earlier idea: "Mrs." centered under the > notes and "missus" or the dictionary spelling of the pronunciation in > parentheses, right below. Wouldn't that avoid any sort of implication? > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:23 AM Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > >> FWIW (joking aside) my copy of Merriam Webster correctly identifies >> "missus" as dialect in one of the definitions, and I would rather >> avoid that implication. >> >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:12 AM Jon Delfin wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:08 PM timothy price < >> timothy.pri...@icloud.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Missus isn’t even a word. (What else could you expect from >> composers?) >>> >>> >>> Or Merriam Webster. What do *they* know about words? >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
Sometimes spellings errors are there to match the rhyming patterns. AWALNATION does “Bad Wolf” with: “Oh my God I think I might’ve made a mustake Waiting patiently was waiting taking up space We are waiting taking up space.” But all I got was “how do you notate “Mrs.”, a one syllable word, over two notes? Well simple, you don’t want to abbreviate the word. The proper word for the intent and purpose is “Mis-sis”. English language is quite well developed. best tim > On Aug 27, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Don Hart wrote: > > Or, along the lines of my earlier idea: "Mrs." centered under the notes and > "missus" or the dictionary spelling of the pronunciation in parentheses, > right below. Wouldn't that avoid any sort of implication? > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:23 AM Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > >> FWIW (joking aside) my copy of Merriam Webster correctly identifies >> "missus" as dialect in one of the definitions, and I would rather avoid >> that implication. >> >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:12 AM Jon Delfin wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:08 PM timothy price < >> timothy.pri...@icloud.com> >>> wrote: >>> Missus isn’t even a word. (What else could you expect from >> composers?) >>> >>> >>> Or Merriam Webster. What do *they* know about words? >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
Or, along the lines of my earlier idea: "Mrs." centered under the notes and "missus" or the dictionary spelling of the pronunciation in parentheses, right below. Wouldn't that avoid any sort of implication? On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:23 AM Robert Patterson < rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > FWIW (joking aside) my copy of Merriam Webster correctly identifies > "missus" as dialect in one of the definitions, and I would rather avoid > that implication. > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:12 AM Jon Delfin wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:08 PM timothy price < > timothy.pri...@icloud.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Missus isn’t even a word. (What else could you expect from > composers?) > > > > > > Or Merriam Webster. What do *they* know about words? > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
FWIW (joking aside) my copy of Merriam Webster correctly identifies "missus" as dialect in one of the definitions, and I would rather avoid that implication. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:12 AM Jon Delfin wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:08 PM timothy price > wrote: > > > Missus isn’t even a word. (What else could you expect from composers?) > > > Or Merriam Webster. What do *they* know about words? > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:08 PM timothy price wrote: > Missus isn’t even a word. (What else could you expect from composers?) Or Merriam Webster. What do *they* know about words? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
Missus isn’t even a word. (What else could you expect from composers?) > On Aug 27, 2019, at 12:05 PM, Jon Delfin wrote: > > For what it's worth, the sheet music for "Mrs. Robinson" uses "Mis-sus." > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:54 AM Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > >> Jennifer, I like the way you think. And I'm gonna do "Mr." that way as >> well. "Mister" looks very fussy and the abbreviated form balances with >> "Mrs.: >> >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:16 AM Jennifer Higdon wrote: >>> >>> When I've had to do this for opera (which, if you're adhering to a >>> libretto, sometimes you must follow exactly)...I've started setting this >>> typed out as one word, under 2 notes, and letting the singer do the >>> placing. It seems to be clearer for them. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Robert Patterson >>> To: finale >>> Sent: Tue, Aug 27, 2019 9:28 am >>> Subject: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.: >>> >>> Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal >> underlay? >>> Any suggestions? >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >>> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >> > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
For what it's worth, the sheet music for "Mrs. Robinson" uses "Mis-sus." On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:54 AM Robert Patterson < rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > Jennifer, I like the way you think. And I'm gonna do "Mr." that way as > well. "Mister" looks very fussy and the abbreviated form balances with > "Mrs.: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:16 AM Jennifer Higdon wrote: > > > When I've had to do this for opera (which, if you're adhering to a > > libretto, sometimes you must follow exactly)...I've started setting this > > typed out as one word, under 2 notes, and letting the singer do the > > placing. It seems to be clearer for them. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Robert Patterson > > To: finale > > Sent: Tue, Aug 27, 2019 9:28 am > > Subject: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.: > > > > Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal > underlay? > > Any suggestions? > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
Jennifer, I like the way you think. And I'm gonna do "Mr." that way as well. "Mister" looks very fussy and the abbreviated form balances with "Mrs.: On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:16 AM Jennifer Higdon wrote: > When I've had to do this for opera (which, if you're adhering to a > libretto, sometimes you must follow exactly)...I've started setting this > typed out as one word, under 2 notes, and letting the singer do the > placing. It seems to be clearer for them. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Robert Patterson > To: finale > Sent: Tue, Aug 27, 2019 9:28 am > Subject: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.: > > Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal underlay? > Any suggestions? > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
When I've had to do this for opera (which, if you're adhering to a libretto, sometimes you must follow exactly)...I've started setting this typed out as one word, under 2 notes, and letting the singer do the placing. It seems to be clearer for them. -Original Message- From: Robert Patterson To: finale Sent: Tue, Aug 27, 2019 9:28 am Subject: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.: Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal underlay? Any suggestions? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
I’ve been asked (well, told) to use “mis-siz” and “mis-suz”...not saying either is wonderful, but that’s what some people have used. Jim James C. Williams Professor Emeritus of Business Franklin College Euphonium Player around several towns On Aug 27, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Dalvin Boone mailto:dalvin.boo...@frontier.com>> wrote: How about "Ms-es?" "Ms" is an common sub for Mrs. and most know to pronounce "Ms" "mizz." Dalvin -Original Message- From: Finale mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu>> On Behalf Of Robert Patterson Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:54 AM To: finale mailto:finale@shsu.edu>> Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.: Technically, "Mrs." is the abbreviation of "Mistress", but no one says that any more. Hence, there is no generally accepted way to spell it out how we pronounce it. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:51 AM timothy price mailto:timothy.pri...@icloud.com>> wrote: Isn’t Mrs. the abbreviation of Missis? Mis-sis. On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:28 AM, Robert Patterson < rob...@robertgpatterson.com<mailto:rob...@robertgpatterson.com>> wrote: Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal underlay? Any suggestions? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu<mailto:Finale@shsu.edu> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu<mailto:finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu> ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu<mailto:Finale@shsu.edu> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu<mailto:finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu> ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu<mailto:Finale@shsu.edu> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu<mailto:finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu> ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu<mailto:Finale@shsu.edu> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu<mailto:finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu> ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
missis Also found in: Thesaurus, Wikipedia. Related to missis: missus missis > wife; the mistress of a householdOn Aug 27, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Dalvin Boone > wrote: > > How about "Ms-es?" "Ms" is an common sub for Mrs. and most know to pronounce > "Ms" "mizz." > > Dalvin > > -Original Message- > From: Finale On Behalf Of Robert Patterson > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:54 AM > To: finale > Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.: > > Technically, "Mrs." is the abbreviation of "Mistress", but no one says that > any more. Hence, there is no generally accepted way to spell it out how we > pronounce it. > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:51 AM timothy price > wrote: > >> Isn’t Mrs. the abbreviation of Missis? Mis-sis. >> >>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:28 AM, Robert Patterson < >> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: >>> >>> Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal >> underlay? >>> Any suggestions? >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu >> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
How about "Ms-es?" "Ms" is an common sub for Mrs. and most know to pronounce "Ms" "mizz." Dalvin -Original Message- From: Finale On Behalf Of Robert Patterson Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:54 AM To: finale Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.: Technically, "Mrs." is the abbreviation of "Mistress", but no one says that any more. Hence, there is no generally accepted way to spell it out how we pronounce it. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:51 AM timothy price wrote: > Isn’t Mrs. the abbreviation of Missis? Mis-sis. > > > On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:28 AM, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > > > > Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal > underlay? > > Any suggestions? > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
Merriam Webster says "mis-sus." On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 9:50 AM timothy price wrote: > Isn’t Mrs. the abbreviation of Missis? Mis-sis. > > > On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:28 AM, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > > > > Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal > underlay? > > Any suggestions? > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
Technically, "Mrs." is the abbreviation of "Mistress", but no one says that any more. Hence, there is no generally accepted way to spell it out how we pronounce it. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:51 AM timothy price wrote: > Isn’t Mrs. the abbreviation of Missis? Mis-sis. > > > On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:28 AM, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > > > > Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal > underlay? > > Any suggestions? > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
Isn’t Mrs. the abbreviation of Missis? Mis-sis. > On Aug 27, 2019, at 9:28 AM, Robert Patterson > wrote: > > Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal underlay? > Any suggestions? > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
I'd probably spell out phonetically and maybe put Mrs. in parentheses somewhere to clarify. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:31 AM GERALD BERG wrote: > Perhaps Mrs-ses? > GJB > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, 9:28:45 AM EDT, Robert Patterson < > rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > > Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal > underlay? > Any suggestions? > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
On 8/27/2019 9:28 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal underlay? Any suggestions? I've seen it "miss-us" -- * David H. Bailey dhbaile...@comcast.net http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] OT: Vocal Underlay of "Mrs.:
Has anyone ever had to divide "Mrs." into two syllables for vocal underlay? Any suggestions? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
