[Finale] OT: recommend database software?
Experience: Many years ago I had FileMaker Pro and I was very happy with it. Mark, Why not just keep using Filemaker in an older version? I have loads of files in Filemaker many which I started when it was in version 2. I updated to 5.5 when it came out and have never upgraded since, but they still all work really well in MacOS 10.4. After all, a database is a database and most of the basic functions never change much. Jonathan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On Jul 20, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: RE: overheating, have you ever tried using a different AC adapter? No. I had no idea this was even an issue. I just took a close look the adapter and the cords on either side of it and I see no signs of stripping anywhere. Is there a possibility getting a different adapter would make a difference? I wasn't aware of any connection. mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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On Jul 20, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Jonathan Smith wrote: Why not just keep using Filemaker in an older version? I haven't had the older version in ages. I used Filemaker on my ancient Mac that died some time around 2002 (and it was pretty old even then). I don't remember exactly why FileMaker didn't migrate to the PowerBook when I got it, but in any case it's long gone now. Thanks to all who offered suggestions. My tentative plan now is to try iList which, based on the company's webpage and the MacWorld review, looks like a pretty good fit for me. It sounds like I give up some of the fancier controls, but I don't think any are essential for the simple cataloguing-type projects I have in mind, and I'm willing to make the sacrifice to save $200 on the price. There's a downloadable demo version I intend to try but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Another benefit is that it doesn't require upgrading my OS to Leopard. It's nice to know that said upgrade shouldn't cause me any problems, but I'd still rather avoid it if possible, just because I'm change-resistant. mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Hi Mark, None of your current issues are likely to impact your use of OS X 10.5.x. Contra John, I would recommend downloading and installing the 10.5.7 combo update as soon as you install 10.5, as this method will give you the cleanest and most reliable upgrade path. I would also recommend choosing the Archive and Install method for your initial installation from the 10.5 DVD -- it's a bit more work but will give you a cleaner upgrade. (You can choose preserve Users Groups). RE: overheating, have you ever tried using a different AC adapter? I was having no end of heat trouble with my MacBook Pro, including overheating that would cause my FireWire Audiophile interface to stop sending audio. Recently, I noticed that the plastic on my AC adaptor had become stripped and the wire was exposed. I called AppleCare and got them to send me a new one, and now (knock on wood) the computer has stopped overheating and my FW Audiophile hasn't dropped once since I swapped out the AC adaptor. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 19 Jul 2009, at 7:33 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: OK, next question. I could ask this at the Apple Store, but since you folks are so kind and the list is slow right now anyway: Looking at Bento, I see it requires Mac OS X.5, which I assume will also be the case if I got full FileMaker. Keeping in mind that I am generally averse to change, how much can I expect to dislike X.5, both in terms of the hassle of the switchover and then things looking unfamiliar afterward? In case it makes a difference, a few things I do which I gather are atypical: - I keep an alias to my hard drive (and selected other subfolders) on the dock, and my standard method for opening any file or app is to start at the dock and drill down through the subfolders) - I tend to use a lot of subfolders. My files are typically about 4 or 5 levels deep, and occasionally 10 or 12. - I use lots of aliases. - I make extensive use of the color labels and the spotlight comments field, which I use for searching out certain categories of files. - (In spite of using the spotlight comments, the one thing I strongly dislike about OS X.4 is Spotlight. I hate how it is constantly indexing things in background, and I hate how it tries to start searching before I'm done typing.) About my hardware: - It's a PowerBook G4, which I think means I have the old chip (and thus can't go to OS 6, right?) - The optical drive works, but it buzzes noisily and will make the computer overheat after a while. Anything that requires keeping the CD in to run is impractical. - The computer tends to overheat when overworked. About two years ago it crashed as a result of that and had to be wiped clean. Now, I try to shut down any time I hear the fan come on. I've found this is mostly a problem with games that are 5+ years old (not sure why, maybe they use the processor inefficiently somehow?) Am I going to hate upgrading to OS X.5? mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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If your Mac came with AppleWorks you could try that. AW contains a pretty decent DB. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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I don't think new Macs come with AppleWorks anymore...and haven't for a while... On Jul 19, 2009, at 3:58 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: If your Mac came with AppleWorks you could try that. AW contains a pretty decent DB. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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AppleWorks was discontinued years ago. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 19 Jul 2009, at 12:37 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: I don't think new Macs come with AppleWorks anymore...and haven't for a while... On Jul 19, 2009, at 3:58 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: If your Mac came with AppleWorks you could try that. AW contains a pretty decent DB. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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But it runs fine on the new macs! noel jones On Jul 19, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: AppleWorks was discontinued years ago. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 19 Jul 2009, at 12:37 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: I don't think new Macs come with AppleWorks anymore...and haven't for a while... On Jul 19, 2009, at 3:58 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: If your Mac came with AppleWorks you could try that. AW contains a pretty decent DB. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Hi Noel, It runs in Rosetta (PPC emulation) -- it seems likely that eventually, support for Rosetta will be dropped. More to the point, it's not being sold or distributed anymore, so if Mark doesn't already own it, there's no way for him to buy it. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 19 Jul 2009, at 6:21 PM, noel jones wrote: But it runs fine on the new macs! noel jones On Jul 19, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: AppleWorks was discontinued years ago. Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 19 Jul 2009, at 12:37 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: I don't think new Macs come with AppleWorks anymore...and haven't for a while... On Jul 19, 2009, at 3:58 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: If your Mac came with AppleWorks you could try that. AW contains a pretty decent DB. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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OK, next question. I could ask this at the Apple Store, but since you folks are so kind and the list is slow right now anyway: Looking at Bento, I see it requires Mac OS X.5, which I assume will also be the case if I got full FileMaker. Keeping in mind that I am generally averse to change, how much can I expect to dislike X.5, both in terms of the hassle of the switchover and then things looking unfamiliar afterward? In case it makes a difference, a few things I do which I gather are atypical: - I keep an alias to my hard drive (and selected other subfolders) on the dock, and my standard method for opening any file or app is to start at the dock and drill down through the subfolders) - I tend to use a lot of subfolders. My files are typically about 4 or 5 levels deep, and occasionally 10 or 12. - I use lots of aliases. - I make extensive use of the color labels and the spotlight comments field, which I use for searching out certain categories of files. - (In spite of using the spotlight comments, the one thing I strongly dislike about OS X.4 is Spotlight. I hate how it is constantly indexing things in background, and I hate how it tries to start searching before I'm done typing.) About my hardware: - It's a PowerBook G4, which I think means I have the old chip (and thus can't go to OS 6, right?) - The optical drive works, but it buzzes noisily and will make the computer overheat after a while. Anything that requires keeping the CD in to run is impractical. - The computer tends to overheat when overworked. About two years ago it crashed as a result of that and had to be wiped clean. Now, I try to shut down any time I hear the fan come on. I've found this is mostly a problem with games that are 5+ years old (not sure why, maybe they use the processor inefficiently somehow?) Am I going to hate upgrading to OS X.5? mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Most Powerbooks work with 10.5. Though you might be out of the spec range. http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24950 On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Mark D Lewmarkd...@earthlink.net wrote: OK, next question. I could ask this at the Apple Store, but since you folks are so kind and the list is slow right now anyway: Looking at Bento, I see it requires Mac OS X.5, which I assume will also be the case if I got full FileMaker. Keeping in mind that I am generally averse to change, how much can I expect to dislike X.5, both in terms of the hassle of the switchover and then things looking unfamiliar afterward? In case it makes a difference, a few things I do which I gather are atypical: - I keep an alias to my hard drive (and selected other subfolders) on the dock, and my standard method for opening any file or app is to start at the dock and drill down through the subfolders) - I tend to use a lot of subfolders. My files are typically about 4 or 5 levels deep, and occasionally 10 or 12. - I use lots of aliases. - I make extensive use of the color labels and the spotlight comments field, which I use for searching out certain categories of files. - (In spite of using the spotlight comments, the one thing I strongly dislike about OS X.4 is Spotlight. I hate how it is constantly indexing things in background, and I hate how it tries to start searching before I'm done typing.) About my hardware: - It's a PowerBook G4, which I think means I have the old chip (and thus can't go to OS 6, right?) - The optical drive works, but it buzzes noisily and will make the computer overheat after a while. Anything that requires keeping the CD in to run is impractical. - The computer tends to overheat when overworked. About two years ago it crashed as a result of that and had to be wiped clean. Now, I try to shut down any time I hear the fan come on. I've found this is mostly a problem with games that are 5+ years old (not sure why, maybe they use the processor inefficiently somehow?) Am I going to hate upgrading to OS X.5? mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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At 4:33 PM -0700 7/19/09, Mark D Lew wrote: OK, next question. I could ask this at the Apple Store, but since you folks are so kind and the list is slow right now anyway: Looking at Bento, I see it requires Mac OS X.5, which I assume will also be the case if I got full FileMaker. Keeping in mind that I am generally averse to change, how much can I expect to dislike X.5, both in terms of the hassle of the switchover and then things looking unfamiliar afterward? I found the upgrade for 10.4.11 to 10.5 pretty smooth. (Now on 10.5.4, and my son-in-law the IT specialist says to avoid the higher versions until they fix some problems.) There's mostly more bells whistles that I'll never use, and probably don't even know are there. Important to some people, but not especially to me. Occasionally I click on something by mistake that brings up something i don't understand, but I ignore it! I am on an Intel MacBook Pro. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Problems? I haven't had any at all. 10.5.7. Pro Tools works, Finale works, Sibelius works, Digital Performer works. Logic works. The test is really Pro Tools. If that doesn't work, then something is really wrong... Best feature in 10.5 by far is Time Machine. Amazing how often that has saved me. On Jul 19, 2009, at 5:32 PM, John Howell wrote: I found the upgrade for 10.4.11 to 10.5 pretty smooth. (Now on 10.5.4, and my son-in-law the IT specialist says to avoid the higher versions until they fix some problems.) There's mostly more bells whistles that I'll never use, and probably don't even know are there. Important to some people, but not especially to me. Occasionally I click on something by mistake that brings up something i don't understand, but I ignore it! I am on an Intel MacBook Pro. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: recommend database software?
Completely off-topic, but I trust the judgment of people here: Does anyone want to recommend database software for me? System: I'm on Mac OS X.4.11. No plans to upgrade, but my PowerBook is getting pretty old, so it might not be too much longer before I get a new one, at which point I assume I'll move up to whatever the current OS is. Needs: I actually don't have any specific project that I really *need* a database for. It's just that I have the sort of collector/ record-keeper personality where I like to track things. I can think of a few things I'd enjoy tracking on a database, and once I had the software I'd probably come up with more. Currently I'm using Excel for this sort of thing, but I'm well aware that in most cases what I really want is a real database, not a spreadsheet. Larger projects would potentially grow to ~3,000 records with ~30 fields of various types. At the moment, I don't envision anything bigger than that, but you never know. Experience: Many years ago I had FileMaker Pro and I was very happy with it. I was thinking to buy that again now, but it's pretty spendy for something which is more a toy than a tool for me. I'm wondering if there's something cheaper out there that I might be just as happy with. I definitely want to be able to define my own files and fields. I liked being able to custom-design input screens and output report formats, too. I do like having lots of control, but I'm sure I never came close to using all of FM's features. I do have rudimentary programming skills, but I prefer not to dig too deep into anything resembling actual programming. Any thoughts? Is it worth it to cough up the $300 for FileMaker, or is there something else cheaper (or even free?) that might make me happy? thanks mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Bento..Its Filemaker scaled down On Jul 18, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: Completely off-topic, but I trust the judgment of people here: Does anyone want to recommend database software for me? System: I'm on Mac OS X.4.11. No plans to upgrade, but my PowerBook is getting pretty old, so it might not be too much longer before I get a new one, at which point I assume I'll move up to whatever the current OS is. Needs: I actually don't have any specific project that I really *need* a database for. It's just that I have the sort of collector/ record-keeper personality where I like to track things. I can think of a few things I'd enjoy tracking on a database, and once I had the software I'd probably come up with more. Currently I'm using Excel for this sort of thing, but I'm well aware that in most cases what I really want is a real database, not a spreadsheet. Larger projects would potentially grow to ~3,000 records with ~30 fields of various types. At the moment, I don't envision anything bigger than that, but you never know. Experience: Many years ago I had FileMaker Pro and I was very happy with it. I was thinking to buy that again now, but it's pretty spendy for something which is more a toy than a tool for me. I'm wondering if there's something cheaper out there that I might be just as happy with. I definitely want to be able to define my own files and fields. I liked being able to custom-design input screens and output report formats, too. I do like having lots of control, but I'm sure I never came close to using all of FM's features. I do have rudimentary programming skills, but I prefer not to dig too deep into anything resembling actual programming. Any thoughts? Is it worth it to cough up the $300 for FileMaker, or is there something else cheaper (or even free?) that might make me happy? thanks mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
