Re: [Finale] test

[rglan]

At 11:44 PM +1000 13/7/18, Michael Edwards wrote:

I got it


Thank you Michael.

The reason I am sending this message is because about once a year I 
get booted from this list and receive a message as follows :


Subject : You have been unsubscribed from the Finale mailing list

This month I received a message from  saying :

Your membership in the mailing list Finale has been disabled due to
excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
14-Jul-2019.  You will not get any more messages from this list until
you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 2 more reminders like
this before your membership in the list is deleted.

I have re-enabled my membership 3 or 4 times now but keep receiving :

- Results:
Invalid confirmation string.  Note that confirmation strings expire
approximately 3 days after the initial subscription request.  If your
confirmation has expired, please try to re-submit your original request or
message.

Has anyone posted anything here since :

David H. Bailey   5:15 AM 14/7/19 -0400   Re: [Finale] Score playback on iPad?

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[Finale] test

[Dejan Badnjar]

DB
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Re: [Finale] test

[Michael Edwards]

[rglan:]


test


 Not sure what you're testing (just whether you're using the 
correct e-mail address to post?), but I got it.


Michael Edwards.

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Re: [Finale] test

[Lawrence David Eden]

LOL

> On Jul 12, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Raymond Horton  wrote:
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> C+
> 
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> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 1:25 PM rglan  wrote:
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Re: [Finale] test

[Raymond Horton]

C+

​Raymond Horton
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On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 1:25 PM rglan  wrote:

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[Finale] test, please ignore

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Re: [Finale] test - things are quiet

[Chuck Israels]

We’re still here!

Just quiet, I think.

Chuck


> On Oct 15, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Lawrence Yates  wrote:
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> Just a quick test to see if things are quiet or if I've been dropped.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Lawrence
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[Lawrence Yates]

Just a quick test to see if things are quiet or if I've been dropped.

Cheers,

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Re: [Finale] Test

[Wade Kotter]

Johannes:

There was a glitch on the list over the weekend which caused most if not
everyone to receive these "bounced address" messages. Henry reset the list
manually and things seem to be working correctly now.

Wade

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 4:14 AM, Johannes Gebauer  wrote:

> Test
> (apparently my mail address bounced, no idea why, if anyone can give me
> a hint, please do...)
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[Johannes Gebauer]

Test
(apparently my mail address bounced, no idea why, if anyone can give me 
a hint, please do...)
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Re: [Finale] Test

[Raymond Horton]

Received!
On Jul 30, 2015 8:57 AM, Barbara Touburg btoub...@online.nl wrote:

 Test to see why my messages are being refused!
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Test to see why my messages are being refused!
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Re: [Finale] Test

[Phil Buglass]

passed...

On 7/16/2015 2:31 AM, Raymond Horton wrote:
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Re: [Finale] Test 3

[Raymond Horton]

Great! Thanks! You were somebody for me!
On Apr 4, 2015 9:04 AM, Williams, Jim jwilli...@franklincollege.edu
wrote:

 No. I'm nobody, but I saw it.

 Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

  On Apr 4, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Anybody see this?
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[Finale] Test 3

[Raymond Horton]

Anybody see this?
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Re: [Finale] Test 3

[rglan]

At 7:46 AM -0700 4/4/15, dershem wrote:
Not me.  :)

andouille :-D
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Re: [Finale] Test 3

[rglan]

At 9:01 AM -0400 4/4/15, Raymond Horton wrote:
Anybody see this?

Oui, j'ai vu ;-)
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Re: [Finale] Test 3

[dershem]

On 4/4/2015 6:01 AM, Raymond Horton wrote:
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Not me.  :)

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Re: [Finale] Test 3

[Williams, Jim]

No. I'm nobody, but I saw it.

Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos.

 On Apr 4, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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Re: [Finale] Test 3

[Jón Kristinn Cortez]

I see this loud and clear!

Cortez



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Re: [Finale] Test 3

[Raymond Horton]

That's funny !  And, on Netflix tonight I watched a 1955 TV Hitchcock
episode called Safe Passage that featured both Klink and Schultz.
On Apr 4, 2015 2:55 PM, Allen Fisher al...@fisherartandtech.com wrote:

 I see nothing! Nothing!

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Apr 4, 2015, at 8:01 AM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com
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Re: [Finale] Test 3

[dershem]

On 4/4/2015 11:55 AM, Allen Fisher wrote:
 I see nothing! Nothing!

Hogan!!!


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Re: [Finale] Test 3

[Allen Fisher]

I see nothing! Nothing!

Sent from my iPhone

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[Joel Sears]

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[Finale] test

[Michael Mathew]

I am testing the integrity of my email.

Thank you,
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Test
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[Finale] test - please respond

[Lawrence Yates]

Hi,

Sorry to do this but I suspect I have a problem.

Could one person please reply publicly to confirm that this message has got
through to the list.  I have had two messages returned as un-deliverable
and two others have not appeared.

Thanks,

Lawrence

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Re: [Finale] test - please respond

[Giovanni Andreani]

I can see it. 

Giovanni Andreani

On 30 Dec 2011, at 22:10, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Sorry to do this but I suspect I have a problem.
 
 Could one person please reply publicly to confirm that this message has got
 through to the list.  I have had two messages returned as un-deliverable
 and two others have not appeared.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Finale] test - please respond

[Lawrence Yates]

Thank you.

Lawrence

On 30 December 2011 21:13, Giovanni Andreani i...@giovanniandreani.euwrote:

 I can see it.

 G

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Re: [Finale] test - please respond

[Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre]

Through
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Re: [Finale] test - please respond

[Barbara Touburg]

Lawrence Yates wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Sorry to do this but I suspect I have a problem.
 
 Could one person please reply publicly to confirm that this message has got
 through to the list.  I have had two messages returned as un-deliverable
 and two others have not appeared.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Lawrence
 

Please state the nature of the musical emergency :)
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Re: [Finale] test - please respond

[John Howell]

At 9:10 PM + 12/30/11, Lawrence Yates wrote:
Hi,

Sorry to do this but I suspect I have a problem.

Could one person please reply publicly to confirm that this message has got
through to the list.  I have had two messages returned as un-deliverable
and two others have not appeared.

Thanks,

Lawrence

Got it.

John


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Re: [Finale] test - please respond

[Dennis Bathory-Kitsz]

Shall we all pile on? :)

Dennis


On Fri, December 30, 2011 4:10 pm, Lawrence Yates wrote:
 Hi,

 Sorry to do this but I suspect I have a problem.

 Could one person please reply publicly to confirm that this message has got
 through to the list.  I have had two messages returned as un-deliverable
 and two others have not appeared.

 Thanks,

 Lawrence

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Re: [Finale] test - please respond

[Bob Morabito]

H, Lawrence--.I received this fine.

Bob Morabito

On Dec 30, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Lawrence Yates wrote:

 Hi,

 Sorry to do this but I suspect I have a problem.

 Could one person please reply publicly to confirm that this message  
 has got
 through to the list.  I have had two messages returned as un- 
 deliverable
 and two others have not appeared.

 Thanks,

 Lawrence

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Re: [Finale] test - please respond

[Michael Mathew]

I have also experienced a couple of returned emails in the past several days.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Michael
 
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To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 1:10 PM
Subject: [Finale] test - please respond
 
Hi,

Sorry to do this but I suspect I have a problem.

Could one person please reply publicly to confirm that this message has got
through to the list.  I have had two messages returned as un-deliverable
and two others have not appeared.

Thanks,

Lawrence

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[Finale] Test - please ignore

[Lawrence Yates]

Test

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Re: [Finale] test

[rodneymesias86]

Very quiet LOL
--Original Message--
From: Lawrence Yates
Sender: finale-boun...@shsu.edu
To: finale@shsu.edu
ReplyTo: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] test
Sent: Nov 8, 2011 18:12

Has the list been very quiet or am I just not receiving?

I'm about to upgrade from WinFin2006 to 2012 and hoped there might be some
discussion going on (now as opposed to in the archives)

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[Finale] Test

[Bob Morabito]

please ignore--thanks.

Bob Morabito
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Re: [Finale] test

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Ryan

Your message containing the question about 2-bar repeats, which you 
mailed from a different address in the gmail.com domain, was 
distributed to the list. The copy in my in-box is timestamped at 1452 on 
4 March. It was on my list of things to do to research this question, 
but I've not gotten to it yet.


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[Finale] test

[Ryan Beard]

Just a test. I sent a message to the list, but no one answered. It's
happened before so I'm wondering if it's a problem with my emails not
getting through. If it's personal, and no one wants to help me, I guess I'll
take my ball and go home!
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Re: [Finale] test

[Lawrence Yates]

message received

On 7 March 2011 17:29, Ryan Beard rw...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Just a test. I sent a message to the list, but no one answered. It's
 happened before so I'm wondering if it's a problem with my emails not
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Re: [Finale] test

[Mariposa Symphony Orchestra]

Well, Ryan - I received this one...but don't recall an earlier test message.

Les Marsden
(209) 966-6988
Cell: (559) 708-6027 (Emergency only)
7145 Snyder Creek Road
Mariposa, CA  95338-9641

Founding Music Director and Conductor, 
The Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
Music and Mariposa?  Ah, Paradise!!!

Mariposa County Planning Commissioner, District 5
First Vice-President, The Mariposa County Arts Council, Inc.
Board Director, The Economic Development Corporation of Mariposa County

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  Subject: [Finale] test


  Just a test. I sent a message to the list, but no one answered. It's
  happened before so I'm wondering if it's a problem with my emails not
  getting through. If it's personal, and no one wants to help me, I guess I'll
  take my ball and go home!
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Re: [Finale] test

[Ryan]

Thanks. Do you see a message from me from Friday re: 2-bar repeats?

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.comwrote:

 message received

 On 7 March 2011 17:29, Ryan Beard rw...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

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  I'll
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Re: [Finale] test

[Mariposa Symphony Orchestra]

Ryan - I just went back and checked my inbox and saw nothing from you, but 
tardiness of responses may be the culprit.   Only last Friday?I'm just now 
getting to my backlogged inbox from NOVEMBER!!

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Ryan 
  To: finale@shsu.edu 
  Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 9:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [Finale] test


  Thanks. Do you see a message from me from Friday re: 2-bar repeats?

  On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.comwrote:

   message received
  
   On 7 March 2011 17:29, Ryan Beard rw...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
  
Just a test. I sent a message to the list, but no one answered. It's
happened before so I'm wondering if it's a problem with my emails not
getting through. If it's personal, and no one wants to help me, I guess
I'll
take my ball and go home!
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Re: [Finale] test

[Raymond Horton]

Did not receive a previous message, Ryan.

Raymond Horton




On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Ryan Beard rw...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Just a test. I sent a message to the list, but no one answered. It's
 happened before so I'm wondering if it's a problem with my emails not
 getting through. If it's personal, and no one wants to help me, I guess
 I'll
 take my ball and go home!
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Re: [Finale] test

[Michael Mathew]

Your email came through my account here just fine. I just had to set this up as 
an alternative to my other account from which I have not received mail from the 
list for over two week. I have set up this account to discover where the 
problem might be if I can.

My other account has bounced back as undeliverable a couple of times previously 
and I've enquired to the head master if he's still receiving bounce-back 
replies from my other account.

I'm truly puzzled and am not a systems analyst so I'm also wondering?

Michael Mathew




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To: finale@shsu.edu
Cc: Ryan Beard rw...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2011 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] test

Did not receive a previous message, Ryan.

Raymond Horton




On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Ryan Beard rw...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Just a test. I sent a message to the list, but no one answered. It's
 happened before so I'm wondering if it's a problem with my emails not
 getting through. If it's personal, and no one wants to help me, I guess
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 take my ball and go home!
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[Finale] Test

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EOM
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test
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RE: [Finale] test

[Jim Hale]

Passed. :)

Jim Hale
Hale Recordings
573-727-6511


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toronado...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:21 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] test

test
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[toronado455]

Thanks. :-)

I'm not seeing [Finale] in the subject line in my posts. Is there something
I'm doing wrong?


On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Jim Hale jim...@halerecordings.com wrote:

 Passed. :)

 Jim Hale
 Hale Recordings
 573-727-6511


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RE: [Finale] test

[Jim Hale]

Showing up fine on this end. :)

Jim Hale
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toronado...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:06 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] test

Thanks. :-)

I'm not seeing [Finale] in the subject line in my posts. Is there something
I'm doing wrong?


On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Jim Hale jim...@halerecordings.com wrote:

 Passed. :)

 Jim Hale
 Hale Recordings
 573-727-6511


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Re: [Finale] test

[Dick Hauser]

Hey!  Hold it down you two, I'm trying to  
sleep...



On Aug 15, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Jim Hale wrote:


Showing up fine on this end. :)

Jim Hale
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573-727-6511


-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On  
Behalf Of

toronado...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:06 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] test

Thanks. :-)

I'm not seeing [Finale] in the subject line in my posts. Is there  
something

I'm doing wrong?


On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Jim Hale jim- 
m...@halerecordings.com wrote:



Passed. :)

Jim Hale
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573-727-6511


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Behalf

Of
toronado...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:21 PM
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[Finale] test

[mystrom1]

is this thing working? I haven't gotten any emails in quite a while
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[dhbailey]

mystrom1 wrote:

is this thing working? I haven't gotten any emails in quite a while
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It's been quiet -- either everybody is so thrilled with 
Finale2009 that they're up to their armpits in new projects 
which are just flying off their computers with no glitches, 
or they're all sitting staring vacantly into their computer 
screens, totally amazed that Finale2009 is an actual release 
and not an alpha version.


In any event, nobody's raising any major issues at the 
moment, so the list is quiet.


Could be a good thing, or it could be a bad thing.

--
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[Leigh Daniels]

test


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[Chris Bell]

Apologies.
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[Leigh Daniels]

This is just a test . . . .


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[Bob Morabito]

thank you
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[Rob]

Please ignore this message.

Rob Marti
Systems Administrator
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RE: [Finale] Test.

[keith]

Consider it officially ignored!

Cheers  anyway

Keith in OZ!

Keith Helgesen.
Ph: (02) 62910787. 
Mob 0417-042171

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Sent: Friday, 4 January 2008 3:59 AM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] Test.

Please ignore this message.

Rob Marti
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[Richard Yates]

Test (no mail for two days)

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[A-NO-NE Music]

Since it's been quiet, I will brake the silence.

Happy Holidays!
http://anonemusic.com/node/829
Hope you enjoy.

-- 

- Hiro

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[Lora Crighton]

It worked
--- Richard Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Test (no mail for two days)
 
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Re: [Finale] test

[Carl Dershem]

Ray Horton wrote:
Since I got my computer running again, I'm not getting much mail on the 
three lists with which I keep up.  Has mail here been particularly light?



Raymond Horton


Yeah, pretty much.

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[Ray Horton]

Since I got my computer running again, I'm not getting much mail on the 
three lists with which I keep up.  Has mail here been particularly light?



Raymond Horton


Richard Yates wrote:
 
test


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[Finale] test again:

[Bob Florence]

Is this group unusually quiet? This isn't the group I know.

Bob Florence
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test

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[Carl Dershem]

Bob Florence wrote:

test

Bob Florence


Multiple-guess, essay, or fill-in-the-blank?

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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[Phil Daley]

At 4/30/2007 07:45 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

I've recreated the PDF optimized for portability (the default was
optimized for speed), and it's here:

http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Gibbons/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace2.pdf

On a windows pc, the screen display is much worse than your original post.

I've also processed that file to optimize it for the Web, and the
result is here:

http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Gibbons/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace3.pdf

Yes, the result looks exactly the same as above, ie. worse than the original.



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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[David W. Fenton]

On 1 May 2007 at 6:34, Phil Daley wrote:

 At 4/30/2007 07:45 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
 
  I've recreated the PDF optimized for portability (the default was
  optimized for speed), and it's here: 
  http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Gibbons/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace2.pdf
 
 On a windows pc, the screen display is much worse than your original
 post.

It's no different on my screen! I haven't done a file compare, but 
the file is exactly the same size as the original (though not the 
first thing I posted).

  I've also processed that file to optimize it for the Web, and the
  result is here: 
  http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Gibbons/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace3.pdf
 
 Yes, the result looks exactly the same as above, ie. worse than the
 original.

Screen display doesn't worry me. Acrobat Reader badly regressed in 
screen display after version 6. Of course, it improved in speed, so 
it's a sad trade-off.

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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[Phil Daley]

At 5/1/2007 01:13 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

On 1 May 2007 at 6:34, Phil Daley wrote:
 On a windows pc, the screen display is much worse than your original
 post.

It's no different on my screen! I haven't done a file compare, but
the file is exactly the same size as the original (though not the
first thing I posted).

My screen is 1600x1200.  I am viewing in Adobe at 100%.

Viewing at 150% looks better and at 200% looks perfect.

BTW:  Adobe Version is 7.0.7 if that makes any difference.

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[David W. Fenton]

On 1 May 2007 at 13:39, Phil Daley wrote (nothing quoted here):

 At 5/1/2007 01:13 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
 
  On 1 May 2007 at 6:34, Phil Daley wrote:
   On a windows pc, the screen display is much worse than your 
   original post. 
 
 It's no different on my screen! I haven't done a file compare, but 
 the file is exactly the same size as the original
 (though not the irst thing I posted).

Turns out they weren't the same size, after all -- victim of Windows 
Explorer rounding.

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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[Christopher Smith]

On Apr 29, 2007, at 10:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:


A Mac user tells me this PDF:

http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Scores/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace.pdf

shows up with weird characters. Generally, I've had no troubles
getting PDFs to her via my website, but this has happened once
before. She said it was some problem with the rests of something
(granted, it's a first draft, without proper editing -- I'm arranging
a 7-part texture for playing by five viols).

Are Mac users seeing proper noteheads/rests?



In Preview it looks fine to me. In Adobe Reader there is the usual on- 
screen weirdness of thick and thin staff lines, but that is onscreen  
only.


What version of Adobe Reader is she using? I understand older  
versions won't read PDF files correctly all the time.


Another issue, did you create this PDF file on a computer other than  
the one that the Finale file was created on? There might be font  
issues if the version of the Finale fonts is not exactly the same.


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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[Andrew Stiller]

On Apr 29, 2007, at 10:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:


A Mac user tells me this PDF:

http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Scores/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace.pdf

shows up with weird characters.



Are Mac users seeing proper noteheads/rests?



No. All  symbols (including the title) show up as rectangles. Clearly 
some kind of font problem.


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[Mark D Lew]

On Apr 30, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote:

[answering David Fenton's PDF query]

No. All  symbols (including the title) show up as rectangles.  
Clearly some kind of font problem.


It looks fine on mine.  I would guess that there's some sort of font  
embedding issue whereby most methods of PDF viewing still read it  
fine but a few are tripped up by it and can't find the right fonts.


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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[David W. Fenton]

On 30 Apr 2007 at 8:03, Christopher Smith wrote:

 On Apr 29, 2007, at 10:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
 
  A Mac user tells me this PDF:
 
  http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Scores/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace.pdf
 
  shows up with weird characters. Generally, I've had no troubles
  getting PDFs to her via my website, but this has happened once
  before. She said it was some problem with the rests of something
  (granted, it's a first draft, without proper editing -- I'm
  arranging a 7-part texture for playing by five viols).
 
  Are Mac users seeing proper noteheads/rests?
 
 In Preview it looks fine to me. In Adobe Reader there is the usual on-
 screen weirdness of thick and thin staff lines, but that is onscreen 
 only.

Strangely, I noticed that the line thickness problem is much worse in 
standalone Adobe reader than it is in the plugin, where the lines 
appear to be much better smoothed (though still not as good as the 
previous version was).

 What version of Adobe Reader is she using? I understand older  
 versions won't read PDF files correctly all the time.

I don't know that she's using Adobe Reader at all, since she's on an 
OS X Mac.

 Another issue, did you create this PDF file on a computer other than 
 the one that the Finale file was created on? There might be font 
 issues if the version of the Finale fonts is not exactly the same.

I created it and made the PDF on my own PC (it was about a 2-hour 
project, most of that being putting in the damned lyrics), just as I 
have many, many times, and sent the same files to her.

In the end, she opened it in Photoshop, which rasterized it and 
allowed her to view it, but I don't know why she wasn't seeing the 
correct stuff otherwise.

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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[David W. Fenton]

On 30 Apr 2007 at 9:47, Mark D Lew wrote:

 On Apr 30, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
 
 [answering David Fenton's PDF query]
 
  No. All  symbols (including the title) show up as rectangles. 
  Clearly some kind of font problem.
 
 It looks fine on mine.  I would guess that there's some sort of font 
 embedding issue whereby most methods of PDF viewing still read it 
 fine but a few are tripped up by it and can't find the right fonts.

Well, first off, I'm using exactly same templates as I always use for 
PDFs that I've posted to the list and to this particular user, and no 
one has ever told me that there's a problem before, with one 
exception, and that's the person who reported the problem.

Now, I've been distributing PDFs created with PDF995 (which is just a 
wrapper around GhostScript) for years now and have never encountered 
anyone saying there's a problem.

I would note that my Adobe Reader allows me to choose whether or not 
to use local fonts or not. Perhaps if you have that checked it won't 
read the fonts embedded in the PDF?

I've recreated the PDF optimized for portability (the default was 
optimized for speed), and it's here:

http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Gibbons/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace2.pdf

I've also processed that file to optimize it for the Web, and the 
result is here:

http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Gibbons/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace3.pdf

I see no differences between them, except that the web-optimized file 
is very slightly smaller.

I don't know what version of OS X my correspondent is using, but it 
may be an older one (she's not a techie and depends on her son, an 
Apple employee, to keep her PC up-to-date, but he's not around much 
any more!).

Andrew, what version do you have? And what are you using to view the 
PDF? Preview? Adobe Reader? The Acrobat browser plugin?

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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[David W. Fenton]

On 30 Apr 2007 at 19:26, shirling  neueweise wrote:

 if you are using special fonts, make sure they are getting embedded;
 if the end user doesn't have the fonts installed they won't be able to
 read the doc properly.

I'm using no special fonts. The file was created yesterday evening 
from my default WinFin2K3 template. It uses three truetype fonts for 
text (Book Antiqua, a Palatino knockoff, Century Gothic, a knockoff 
of another font whose name I've forgotten, and Joulliard, which is a 
Galliard knockoff, but one I've been using for over 15 years without 
issues!), and the Engraver Wide music font.

 i opened the PDF document properties to see the fonts it contains...
 very strange, i'll send you an attachment separately. there are no
 recognizable finale fonts or text fonts.

That seems pretty obvious to me that all my PDF writer is doing is 
creating embedded font definitions that include only the used 
characters. It would make no sense to embed the whole font by name.

 maybe do a data check to check doc fonts against systems fonts.

Regardless of what you're seeing for the internal font definitions 
within the document, does it display correctly for you? If it does, 
then that's surely not causing a problem.

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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[Christopher Smith]

On Apr 30, 2007, at 7:10 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:


On 30 Apr 2007 at 8:03, Christopher Smith wrote:


What version of Adobe Reader is she using? I understand older
versions won't read PDF files correctly all the time.


I don't know that she's using Adobe Reader at all, since she's on an
OS X Mac.



Adobe Reader is available for Mac, and I use it when I need the  
special features that Preview doesn't offer (like the Finale  
documentation), plus it sometimes views and prints correctly some  
files that don't read properly in Preview. And sometimes vice-versa!  
Maybe she could try out the newest version.




Another issue, did you create this PDF file on a computer other than
the one that the Finale file was created on? There might be font
issues if the version of the Finale fonts is not exactly the same.


I created it and made the PDF on my own PC (it was about a 2-hour
project, most of that being putting in the damned lyrics), just as I
have many, many times, and sent the same files to her.

In the end, she opened it in Photoshop, which rasterized it and
allowed her to view it, but I don't know why she wasn't seeing the
correct stuff otherwise.


That's weird! Since she was able to view it in Photoshop, that seems  
to indicate that the fonts WERE embedded after all.


I'm stumped, but I am far from an expert on these matters. I hope  
someone can shed some light for you.


Christopher


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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[Carlberg Jones]

On Apr 29, 2007, at 10:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:


A Mac user tells me this PDF:

http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Scores/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace.pdf

shows up with weird characters.



Are Mac users seeing proper noteheads/rests?



It all looked perfect on my MacBook Pro, OS 10.4.9, FinMac 2k7 installed.
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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[shirling neueweise]

That seems pretty obvious to me that all my PDF writer is doing is
creating embedded font definitions that include only the used
characters. It would make no sense to embed the whole font by name.


it doesn't make any sense to me; usually this is what appears when i 
check my own PDFs: a list of all the embedded (all music fonts + text 
fonts i know the user won't have) and non-embedded fonts (arial, 
times n.r. et al) in the document.   this has in the past helped me 
diagnose/solve problems i was having which were possibly related to 
font issues.



  maybe do a data check to check doc fonts against systems fonts.

Regardless of what you're seeing for the internal font definitions
within the document, does it display correctly for you? If it does,
then that's surely not causing a problem.


well since you don't know what the problem is all we can do is 
suggest some things to try; there is obvioualy some kind of font 
issue happening, so you might as well give it a try.  you might even 
find other problems in the document if you're lucky!


At 19:31 -0400 4/30/07, David W. Fenton wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 see attached an the image doesn't appear below.


What is that supposed to tell me? It's just the temp font names that 
my PDF writer uses in storing the needed font definitions for the 
document. Is that supposed to help me troubleshoot somehow?


Sorry, but I don't understand!


i have never encountered such names in any PDF document i have 
checked; usually the font names are there, and regardless of whether 
or not i have them installed on my own dumputer.


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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[Christopher Smith]

On Apr 30, 2007, at 7:45 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:



I've recreated the PDF optimized for portability (the default was
optimized for speed), and it's here:

http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Gibbons/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace2.pdf

I've also processed that file to optimize it for the Web, and the
result is here:

http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Gibbons/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace3.pdf

I see no differences between them, except that the web-optimized file
is very slightly smaller.




Both are fine for me on OSX 10.4.9, though as before, Preview 3.0.9  
does a better job of on-screen viewing than Acrobat Reader 7.0.9 does.


I doubt I have the special fonts you mentioned, and I could see  
everything fine.


Christopher


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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[shirling neueweise]

That's weird! Since she was able to view it in Photoshop, that seems 
to indicate that the fonts WERE embedded after all.


nope.  it _suggests_ they are installed on her computer, _or_ they 
are embedded; if she knows photoshop (or another digital graphic 
design programme) well she could tell you which is the case.


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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[David W. Fenton]

On 1 May 2007 at 2:21, shirling  neueweise wrote:

 That's weird! Since she was able to view it in Photoshop, that seems
 to indicate that the fonts WERE embedded after all.
 
 nope.  it _suggests_ they are installed on her computer, _or_ they are
 embedded; if she knows photoshop (or another digital graphic design
 programme) well she could tell you which is the case.

I am certain that the Galliard knock-off font is not installed as 
it's from a TrueType font set I bought in 1991. She also does not 
have Finale installed, so I wouldn't expect the Engraver Wide font to 
be on her system.

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[Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[David W. Fenton]

A Mac user tells me this PDF:

http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Scores/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace.pdf

shows up with weird characters. Generally, I've had no troubles 
getting PDFs to her via my website, but this has happened once 
before. She said it was some problem with the rests of something 
(granted, it's a first draft, without proper editing -- I'm arranging 
a 7-part texture for playing by five viols).

Are Mac users seeing proper noteheads/rests?

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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[Chuck Israels]

David,

This shows up alright on my Mac.  It looks fine to me except perhaps  
for placement of floating rests having to do with multiple vocal  
parts.  I have to assume they are placed where they were put by the  
composer.


Chuck


On Apr 29, 2007, at 7:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:


A Mac user tells me this PDF:

http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Scores/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace.pdf

shows up with weird characters. Generally, I've had no troubles
getting PDFs to her via my website, but this has happened once
before. She said it was some problem with the rests of something
(granted, it's a first draft, without proper editing -- I'm arranging
a 7-part texture for playing by five viols).

Are Mac users seeing proper noteheads/rests?

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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[JohnBlane]

In a message dated 4/29/07 10:01:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 
 Are Mac users seeing proper noteheads/rests?
 
 

It displays properly here.


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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[David W. Fenton]

On 29 Apr 2007 at 20:13, Chuck Israels wrote:

 This shows up alright on my Mac.  It looks fine to me except perhaps 
 for placement of floating rests having to do with multiple vocal 
 parts.  I have to assume they are placed where they were put by the 
 composer.

No, Orlando Gibbons was dead several hundred years before Finale was 
invented!

I just haven't bothered with the floating rests, simply because I'm 
actually going to eliminate the multiple voices and fold them into 
individual parts (which is the point of the exercise). 

Maybe that was what my correspondent was complaining about after all.

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Re: [Finale] Test of a PDF on Mac

[Herman Gersten]

Looks fine to me, David.

I'm using Adobe Reader 7.05 with system version 10.4.9 on a G5.


On Apr 29, 2007, at 10:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:


A Mac user tells me this PDF:

http://www.dfenton.com/Collegium/Scores/Gibbons-LordGrantGrace.pdf

shows up with weird characters. Generally, I've had no troubles
getting PDFs to her via my website, but this has happened once
before. She said it was some problem with the rests of something
(granted, it's a first draft, without proper editing -- I'm arranging
a 7-part texture for playing by five viols).

Are Mac users seeing proper noteheads/rests?



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Re: [Finale] test

[David W. Fenton]

On 21 Mar 2007 at 20:02, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:

 Dood, get a Gmail acct. It's free. It's easy. It's painless ;)

It also has an authoritarian UI that doesn't allow you much leeway in 
customization, and it makes actual deletion of messages harder than 
it ought to be. And it means you're trusting someone else to maintain 
your data.

I would never use GMail.

I would never use any free email account for anything important.

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[Finale] test

[A-NO-NE Music]

My post doesn't show up to Mailman2 at shsu.edu for 2 days :-(

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Re: [Finale] test

[Kim Patrick Clow]

On 3/21/07, A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dood, get a Gmail acct. It's free. It's easy. It's painless ;)


Good luck!

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[Finale] Test, do not open

[Rafael L. Junchaya]

Mensaje de prueba
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