[Finale] Thanks

[Lawrence David Eden]

Many thanks and much respect to my colleagues on the Finale List who took the 
time to offer solutions to my “Finale Crisis du Jour.”  Your answers are most 
helpful!

Larry Eden
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[Finale] thanks

[Lawrence David Eden]

Dear Listers,

I have learned so many things from this Group.  I have been a Finale user since 
Version 3.5 and the lessons taught on this List have been helpful many times.  
Despite our collective griping, Finale continues to prove itself capable.

Thanks for all the clear and concise answers that you mavens continually supply.

Larry Eden
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[Finale] Thanks for the reply

[Elizabeth R. Austin]

Christopher, the Selection Tool was useless-BUT the Graphics tool allowed
me to delete this-I need a lot more Finale help!
*Elizabeth R. Austin, ACA, BMI*
*www.elizabethaustinmusic.com* 
*http://composers.com/elizabeth-r-austin*

*http://www.amc.net/ElizabethRAustin* 
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Re: [Finale] Thanks for conversion help

[Michael Mathew]

Excellent news! I hope you were on time! mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com 
http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ 

On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:54 AM, Michael Wittenburg 
 wrote:
 

 Dear Finale List,

Thank you to all who contacted me about helping with my Sibelius conversion 
problem. David Bailey did a full conversion of all my files, so I will now be 
able to have full collaboration with the composer once his computer is back up 
and running!

Michael


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[Finale] Thanks for conversion help

[Michael Wittenburg]

Dear Finale List,

Thank you to all who contacted me about helping with my Sibelius conversion 
problem. David Bailey did a full conversion of all my files, so I will now be 
able to have full collaboration with the composer once his computer is back up 
and running!

Michael


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[Finale] Thanks SO Much, Robert!

[Jim Dukey]

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[Finale] thanks

[Katherine Hoover]

Thanks to help from finalelist and elsewhere I'm swimming along in  
2011.  And here comes 2012!!

Katherine Hoover
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Re: [Finale] thanks

[Dana Friedman]

At 01:07 PM 10/10/2011, Katherine Hoover wrote:

Thanks to help from finalelist and elsewhere I'm swimming along in
2011.  And here comes 2012!!

After upgrade trauma, do NOT head into MORE upgrade trauma :).

Best,
Dana 

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[Dana Friedman]

At 01:07 PM 10/10/2011, Katherine Hoover wrote:

Thanks to help from finalelist and elsewhere I'm swimming along in
2011.  And here comes 2012!!

After upgrade trauma, do NOT head into MORE upgrade trauma :).

Best,
Dana 

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[Finale] Thanks

[Howey, Henry]

KV 406 and KV 388;-)

Sent from my iPod
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[Finale] Thanks!

[Steve Parker]

I'm sure it is not needed...but..
A massive thanks to all who have helped!!
I'm aware that I've fairly flooded the list..
I hope to return the favour (or favor!) at some point!

Steve P.


On 14 Jan 2011, at 17:21, Chuck Israels wrote:



On Jan 14, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Steve Parker wrote:

Without denigrating anyone else on the list and with grateful  
thanks to everybody,

I cannot believe I'm being helped by Chuck Israels!!
(Assuming you are that Chuck Israels..)

Thank you Chuck!!


You're welcome, Steve.

Having been helped, and shown patience for my ignorance (sometimes  
when I simply should have looked something up in the manual, or  
watched one of Finale's video tutorials), I am trying to return the  
favor.  There are people here who know nooks and crannies in the  
program that I seldom encounter - Darcy, Christopher, David Bailey -  
(arghh! I started a list that will omit someone, so I'll stop), many  
folks who do more complex things than I, or who do some of the same  
things in more efficient ways.  They have been enormously helpful.   
You may have the good fortune to get to know some of these people  
and develop friendships - to me, a great benefit of this list.  I  
even had breakfast with Jari Williamson in Gothenburg some years ago  
-  a pleasure, for sure.


Chuck











Steve P.

On 14 Jan 2011, at 15:03, Chuck Israels wrote:


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[Finale] Thanks

[D. Keneth Fowler]

I want to extend sincere thanks to David Fenton, David Lawrence, David 
Bailey, Dennis and Allen for your generous response to my inquiry about 
desktops. You have been most helpful as I sort out what to do about going 
to a new machine.


I do not remember seeing this post in my mail after I sent it. Not 
surprised since several have noted they did not receive mail. I wanted to 
be sure it reached those named above.


Ken Fowler 



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[Finale] Thanks

[Henry E. Howey]

to Aaron Sherber.

I hope the fix he has so kindly suggested will do the job. This list is
almost 15 years old, and we're in the third or fourth v ersion of the
server software.

Also, all of you have my email. When a problem arises, please ALSO drop me
a note as well;-)


Henry Howey
Professor of Music
  Sam Houston State University
  Box 2208
  Huntsville, TX  77341
  (936) 294-1364
  http://www.shsu.edu/~music/faculty/howey.html
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Re: [Finale] Thanks

[Aaron Sherber]

At 01:33 PM 8/27/2005, Henry E. Howey wrote:
I hope the fix he has so kindly suggested will do the job. This list is
almost 15 years old, and we're in the third or fourth v ersion of the
server software.

Henry, if this message was sent after you made the first change I 
suggested, then I think you need to also make the other one I alluded 
to as well: set reply_to_address to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Also, all of you have my email. When a problem arises, please ALSO drop me
a note as well;-)

With all due respect, I did email you directly about this two weeks 
ago, and I also emailed you directly at that time about John McGann's 
misbehaving autoresponder.


Aaron.

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[Finale] Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away until Labor

[John McGann]

Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have 
sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If 
you are a Berklee student looking for an ensemble waiver, I will attend to that 
the first week of September as well. Thank you for your patience!

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[A-NO-NE Music]

Darcy James Argue / 2005/08/25 / 03:36 PM wrote:

A volunteer job is still a job. You shouldn't volunteer for a job if  
you don't plan to actually fulfill your responsibilities. If someone  
is a volunteer firefighter in a small town, and yet never shows up at  
the scene of a fire, then they are not doing their job.

Woa, this is uncalled for.
If you don't like the way user group is, you are totally free to leave. 
That's the way user group works.

I admin Mobile I/O list.  The host is Virginia Tech who keeps the
MailMan2 server running for us despite the constant DoS attach.  User
group list admin is totally thankless task.  You can't make everyone
happy, and that is the facts.  On my list, I do not allow any OT post as
well as name calling flame war and for-sale ad.  There are quite few
people upsets with how I run the list, but I have to draw a line to keep
the archive useful.  There are other user groups for OT subjects they
can go to.

And I do not allow posts regarding the list itself on my list.  Since
this list has given me many help, and also I appreciate occasional
appearances of MM! personnel, I am trying to get used to hitting [Del]
key softer when I see threads after threads of OT posts so my [Del] key
doesn't come off again.  I don't mind occasional OT posts those which
can benefits to all the members, but when the thread goes on and on like
this one, I am trying to learn how to ignore it.

-- 

- Hiro

Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA
http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com


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[Eric Dannewitz]

Well, look, it's been going on for like a month. Maybe more.

A week, ok, so the list moderator is busy. Two weeksOk, maybe he's 
on vacation. Three weeksok, must be a good vacation. A 
month..damn good vacation. Five weeksum*tap tap* 
anyone home?


Seriously, I think Darcy is right. If you ain't going to do the job, 
give it to someone else. Or if you are going to be gone, let someone 
else do the Job.


Of course, this Berklee instructor McGann or whatever is a total [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
for never checking his email and allowing this to happen in the first 
place.


A-NO-NE Music wrote:


Darcy James Argue / 2005/08/25 / 03:36 PM wrote:

 

A volunteer job is still a job. You shouldn't volunteer for a job if  
you don't plan to actually fulfill your responsibilities. If someone  
is a volunteer firefighter in a small town, and yet never shows up at  
the scene of a fire, then they are not doing their job.
   



Woa, this is uncalled for.
If you don't like the way user group is, you are totally free to leave. 
That's the way user group works.
 




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[Mariposa Symphony Orchestra]

"On theThird Day of Lab'r Day, 

MyFin-List Gaveto Me - 
-
Three mp3 Files, 
Two Berklee Students, and
AnAuto-mail
From John Mc - Gann"

Best, 

Les - 

- who always believes in the power of sweetly mild humor to help diffuse 
the potency of that which might otherwise become contentious. 
And who further believes that if such a light-hearted, gentle approach fails, 
it's then time to turnreally brutally ugly.


Les MarsdenFounding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa 
Symphony OrchestraMusic and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!!

http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.htmlhttp://www.sierratel.com/mcf/nprc/mso.htm


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John McGann 
  
  To: finale@shsu.edu 
  Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 10:09 
  AM
  Subject: [Finale] Thanks for your mail. 
  My computer is going into the shoptoday, and I am away until Labor
  Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, 
  and I am away until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone 
  periodically...if you have sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place 
  after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If you are a Berklee student looking for an 
  ensemble waiver, I will attend to that the first week of September as well. 
  Thank you for your patience!You may need to resend your email after 
  Sept. 4th. Thanks 
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[dhbailey]

Eric Dannewitz wrote:

Well, look, it's been going on for like a month. Maybe more.

A week, ok, so the list moderator is busy. Two weeksOk, maybe he's 
on vacation. Three weeksok, must be a good vacation. A 
month..damn good vacation. Five weeksum*tap tap* 
anyone home?


Seriously, I think Darcy is right. If you ain't going to do the job, 
give it to someone else. Or if you are going to be gone, let someone 
else do the Job.


Of course, this Berklee instructor McGann or whatever is a total [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
for never checking his email and allowing this to happen in the first 
place.




Lighten up on Henry.  Maybe he is doing his job just the way he sees 
it should be done, and perhaps you and Darcy are just on the wrong list.


If you want a list moderator who looks at every message and approves it 
before it is posted so you don't have to hit the delete key, then 
perhaps you and Darcy should go start one. It will be interesting to see 
how many members of this list jump ship with you.  There already is a 
yahoogroups Finale list with perhaps a dozen of the same people as are 
on this list.  The level of discourse is much quieter over there.  Maybe 
you'd like it better.


You have definitely gotten your money's worth out of this list and 
Henry's efforts, and I think you are being very ungrateful to expect 
that Henry should jump every time you don't like something that happens 
on the list.  Just look at your last invoice and see exactly what you 
have been paying Henry for.






--
David H. Bailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Finale] Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into theshoptoday, and I am away until Labor

[Eric Dannewitz]

I think it's how many Months this has been going on.

On the first week, second week.what are we on now, 5 or 6?

Williams, Jim wrote:


___

On the Third Day of Lab'r Day, 
My Fin-List Gave to Me - - 
Three mp3 Files, 
Two Berklee Students, and 
An Auto-mail 
From John Mc - Gann


May I humbly suggest, not at all referring to you, whose daily-unfolding song 
provides much amusement...
six (or other one-syllable number) whiners kvetching...   ;-) :-)

(Or shall I leave the songwriting to professionals?)
 




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Re: [Finale] Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away until Labor

[David W. Fenton]

On 26 Aug 2005 at 15:13, dhbailey wrote:

 Lighten up on Henry.  Maybe he is doing his job just the way he sees
 it should be done, and perhaps you and Darcy are just on the wrong
 list.
 
 If you want a list moderator who looks at every message and approves
 it before it is posted so you don't have to hit the delete key,

When you're happy to reduce it to the most absurd alternatives, this 
is the kind of answer you come up with.

Proper management of an *unmoderated* list (which this is) involves 
unsubscribing users who are polluting the list, and changing list 
settings sensibly. 

Henry is doing neither of these things in the last month or so, and 
this makes the list less easy to use. If rectifying these two 
problems were in some way difficult, there'd be no grounds for 
complaints, but both problems can be quite easily fixed with about 5 
minutes of the list owner's time.

Registering dissatisfaction with that neglect of responsibility does 
not imply that one would prefer a moderated list -- it's 
intellectually dishonest to even introduce that as a response to the 
complaints about what looks like dereliction of duty to many of us.

Furtunately, I am not bothered to any significant degree by either of 
the problems. My email client makes it extremely easy for me to 
selectively reply to any one or any arbitrary combination of 
addresses in the header of the list posting I'm replying to, so I 
have no problem with the bad Reply-To. I also don't see much problem 
with the 2 or 3 autoresponses per day from the moron who went on 
vacation (I don't find autoresponders useful for real people -- if 
someone's not there, I don't need a response to every message I send 
to them telling me so; a smart autoresponder would only send one such 
message to each address, but there doesn't seem to be such a thing), 
as he's on Digest. But if he were subscribed to the whole list, it 
would be a *very* bad problem.

So, in this case, the damage from Henry's neglect is minimal (though 
the Reply-To is pretty inconvenient for those with email clients that 
don't make it easy to pick which addresses you want to reply to), but 
it is, nonetheless, still neglect of his responsibilities.

It's pretty consistent with past history, though, as it took months 
for Henry to fix the original Reply-To behavior (which we are now 
back to) after the list migrated to Mailman. I complained about that 
back then and was roundly condemned for it. It's nice to see now that 
I'm not the only one who thinks things are not being terribly well-
managed.

-- 
David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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[Eric Dannewitz]

Start another list and miss great comments like this one? And miss your 
great insights?


Compared to other lists, this moderator is MIA. That is all we are 
saying. If he could not devote time in the last month, month and a half 
this McGann email thing has been going on, then..why is he doing it? 
Why not get someone else to take up the slack. I'm not asking for EVERY 
email to be looked at, but some sort of attention to what is going on 
would be nice.


I'm on the right list. I just am sick of seeing some choad's away 
message. It's like SPAM. Would you have the same attitude towards this 
Henry if we had PORN ads showing up on the list? And the moderator was 
MIA again? Would you be getting what you are paying for?


dhbailey wrote:

Lighten up on Henry.  Maybe he is doing his job just the way he sees 
it should be done, and perhaps you and Darcy are just on the wrong list.


If you want a list moderator who looks at every message and approves 
it before it is posted so you don't have to hit the delete key, then 
perhaps you and Darcy should go start one. It will be interesting to 
see how many members of this list jump ship with you.  There already 
is a yahoogroups Finale list with perhaps a dozen of the same people 
as are on this list.  The level of discourse is much quieter over 
there.  Maybe you'd like it better.


You have definitely gotten your money's worth out of this list and 
Henry's efforts, and I think you are being very ungrateful to expect 
that Henry should jump every time you don't like something that 
happens on the list.  Just look at your last invoice and see exactly 
what you have been paying Henry for.




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[Finale] Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away until Labor

[John McGann]

Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have 
sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If 
you are a Berklee student looking for an ensemble waiver, I will attend to that 
the first week of September as well. Thank you for your patience!

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[Mariposa Symphony Orchestra]

  "On theSecond Day of Lab'r Day, 
  
  MyFin-List Gaveto Me - 
  -
  Two Berklee Students, and
  AnAuto-mail
  From John Mc - 
Gann"
Best, 

Les

Les MarsdenFounding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa 
Symphony OrchestraMusic and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!!

http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.htmlhttp://www.sierratel.com/mcf/nprc/mso.htm


- Original Message - 
From: John McGann 

To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:15 AM
Subject: [Finale] Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into 
the shoptoday, and I am away until Labor
Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, 
and I am away until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone 
periodically...if you have sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place after 
Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If you are a Berklee student looking for an ensemble 
waiver, I will attend to that the first week of September as well. Thank you for 
your patience!You may need to resend your email after Sept. 4th. Thanks 
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Re: [Finale] Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away until Labor

[Eric Dannewitz]

This guy needs to be publicly flogged!

John McGann wrote:


Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have 
sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If 
you are a Berklee student looking for an ensemble waiver, I will attend to that 
the first week of September as well. Thank you for your patience!

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Re: [Finale] Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away until Labor

[Darcy James Argue]

On 25 Aug 2005, at 1:22 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:


This guy needs to be publicly flogged!


It wouldn't be a problem if the list owner was doing his job.

- Darcy
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brooklyn, NY



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[Mariposa Symphony Orchestra]

Oh, I dunno -- a simple, mild parodic mocking 
is making me feel much better...

Best - and until tomorrow's 
installment

Les


Les MarsdenFounding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa 
Symphony OrchestraMusic and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!!

http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.htmlhttp://www.sierratel.com/mcf/nprc/mso.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eric 
  Dannewitz 
  To: finale@shsu.edu 
  Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:22 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Finale] Thanks for your 
  mail. My computer is going into theshop today, and I am away until Labor
  This guy needs to be publicly flogged!John McGann 
  wrote:Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop 
  today, and I am away until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone 
  periodically...if you have sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place 
  after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If you are a Berklee student looking for an 
  ensemble waiver, I will attend to that the first week of September as well. 
  Thank you for your patience!You may need to resend your email 
  after Sept. 4th. Thanks 
  again.___Finale 
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  listFinale@shsu.eduhttp://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale 
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Re: [Finale] Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away until Labor

[Eric Dannewitz]

Wait, there is a list owner

Man, I think BOTH of them need to be flogged.

Darcy James Argue wrote:


On 25 Aug 2005, at 1:22 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:


This guy needs to be publicly flogged!



It wouldn't be a problem if the list owner was doing his job.

- Darcy
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Finale] Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away until Labor

[dhbailey]

Darcy James Argue wrote:


On 25 Aug 2005, at 1:22 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:


This guy needs to be publicly flogged!



It wouldn't be a problem if the list owner was doing his job.



He has a job?  I don't recall ever paying him anything.  Have you paid him?

He does it as a labor of love, and if he happens to be away on vacation, 
so be it.


Maybe his computer's in the shop and he's away until Labor Day, too.

But I don't think he gets paid for this list.  It's not really a job.

--
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[Darcy James Argue]

A volunteer job is still a job. You shouldn't volunteer for a job if  
you don't plan to actually fulfill your responsibilities. If someone  
is a volunteer firefighter in a small town, and yet never shows up at  
the scene of a fire, then they are not doing their job.


If Henry's on vacation, well, there are many people on this list with  
experience with Mailman software.  How hard would it have been to  
contact one of them with the admin password and say, Would you mind  
keeping an eye on the list while I'm away?


Also, if you know you're going away for a while, and nobody's minding  
the shop while you're gone, why on earth would you make a major  
change like modifying the Reply-To behavior *immediately* before you  
depart, so that we're all stuck with it for weeks?


- Darcy
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On 25 Aug 2005, at 2:51 PM, dhbailey wrote:


Darcy James Argue wrote:



On 25 Aug 2005, at 1:22 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:


This guy needs to be publicly flogged!


It wouldn't be a problem if the list owner was doing his job.



He has a job?  I don't recall ever paying him anything.  Have you  
paid him?


He does it as a labor of love, and if he happens to be away on  
vacation, so be it.


Maybe his computer's in the shop and he's away until Labor Day, too.

But I don't think he gets paid for this list.  It's not really a job.


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[Aaron Sherber]

On Thu, August 25, 2005 2:51 pm, dhbailey said:
 He does it as a labor of love, and if he happens to be away on vacation,
 so be it.

I don't agree with you. When you agree to moderate a list, that comes with
certain responsibilities, one of which is being available to handle issues
like this. Henry has a right to go on vacation, of course, but then he
should designate someone to moderate in his absence.

Also, in years past Henry has publicly asked the listmembers to let his
employers at SHSU know the value of his efforts in making the list
available, since I gather that extra-curriculars like this have some
effect on his position there. Though I think it's been a couple of years
since he's done this.

Aaron.

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[Aaron Sherber]

At 02:38 PM 08/25/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote:
It wouldn't be a problem if the list owner was doing his job.

I'm guessing Henry is on vacation or something, since he hasn't 
responded to anything in a couple of weeks. But that's why one ought 
to designate an alternate moderator when one is going to be out of 
reach for a while.


Aaron.

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[Eric Dannewitz]

Exactly. Take a look at the Flute list sometime. They totally clamp down 
on everything there. It's a labor of love, but there are like 4 
moderators. They don't allow this sort of thing to continue.


Of course, Mr. McGann or whatever is equally at fault for being so rude 
for allowing this to continue to happen. I'd expect a little more from a 
professor..but whateverI wonder if he actually checked his email 
during this...probably not.


Aaron Sherber wrote:


I don't agree with you. When you agree to moderate a list, that comes with
certain responsibilities, one of which is being available to handle issues
like this. Henry has a right to go on vacation, of course, but then he
should designate someone to moderate in his absence.

Also, in years past Henry has publicly asked the listmembers to let his
employers at SHSU know the value of his efforts in making the list
available, since I gather that extra-curriculars like this have some
effect on his position there. Though I think it's been a couple of years
since he's done this.

 




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[Eric Dannewitz]

Indeed!

Well, with the lack luster Finale 2006 update, performance issues with 
it, and bugs, I suppose we need something to talk about on the list.


;-)

Darcy James Argue wrote:

A volunteer job is still a job. You shouldn't volunteer for a job if  
you don't plan to actually fulfill your responsibilities. If someone  
is a volunteer firefighter in a small town, and yet never shows up at  
the scene of a fire, then they are not doing their job.


If Henry's on vacation, well, there are many people on this list with  
experience with Mailman software.  How hard would it have been to  
contact one of them with the admin password and say, Would you mind  
keeping an eye on the list while I'm away?


Also, if you know you're going away for a while, and nobody's minding  
the shop while you're gone, why on earth would you make a major  
change like modifying the Reply-To behavior *immediately* before you  
depart, so that we're all stuck with it for weeks?


- Darcy




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[Noel Stoutenburg]

Aaron Sherber wrote:


On Thu, August 25, 2005 2:51 pm, dhbailey said:
 


He does it as a labor of love, and if he happens to be away on vacation,
so be it.
   



I don't agree with you. When you agree to moderate a list, that comes with
certain responsibilities, one of which is being available to handle issues
like this.

I would suggest that there is a differrence between moderating a list, 
and hosting it, in that the former implies some effort to monitor 
content and keep posts on topic, while former is more on the order of 
sure, I'll provide the facilities for what you wish to do.  I 
understand this to be an unmoderated list, and Henry's role to be a 
host, rather than a moderator. 


Henry has a right to go on vacation, of course, but then he
should designate someone to moderate in his absence.

Also, in years past Henry has publicly asked the listmembers to let his
employers at SHSU know the value of his efforts in making the list
available, since I gather that extra-curriculars like this have some
effect on his position there. Though I think it's been a couple of years
since he's done this.

I suspect, more than any value to his position at SHSU, the request to 
let listmembers know of the value of the list is so that his employers 
will continue to devote the bandwidth and disk space to allow it to be 
hosted.


If you want a moderated list (and I don't I frankly appreciate the 
occasional forays into Schenkerian analysis and other arcane, tangential 
and off topic posts, besides on the whole each of us does a pretty good 
job of maintining out own discipline), there are a number of options 
available, but I suspect Henry is not going to be willing to be the 
moderator, and as a state school in Texas, where there is already a 
signficiant budget crunch, the University may well not agree to let an 
outsider moderate, either. 

I would note, that although I once considered purchase of a Ricoh 2610, 
I did not follow through; and as a WIN user, I have little interest in 
MAC OS issues, even if they do pertain to Finale.  The number of posts 
in the past week on other issues of little interest to me far outweigh 
the one or two posts a day from a fellow who neglected to go nomail 
when he sent his computer to the byte ward.  Consider this:  the nibbles 
we deal with by deleting his one message a day is little compared to the 
byte he's going to feel at the time he pays the bill.


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[Aaron Sherber]

At 06:22 PM 08/25/2005, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
sure, I'll provide the facilities for what you wish to do.  I
understand this to be an unmoderated list, and Henry's role to be a
host, rather than a moderator.

While individual posts are not moderated, every list must have an 
owner, or administrator, or moderator, and that's Henry. He's the 
only one who can do things like change list settings and temporarily 
unsub thoughtless subscribers with misbehaving autoresponders.


I suspect, more than any value to his position at SHSU, the request to
let listmembers know of the value of the list is so that his employers
will continue to devote the bandwidth and disk space to allow it to be
hosted.

That was not the impression I got from Henry's requests, though I 
could be wrong.


MAC OS issues, even if they do pertain to Finale.  The number of posts
in the past week on other issues of little interest to me far outweigh
the one or two posts a day from a fellow who neglected to go nomail
when he sent his computer to the byte ward.

I agree that it's not that big a deal. But it is something that a 
moderator (or owner, or administrator...) should take care of, and it 
also came directly on the heels of Henry changing the list settings 
(without telling anyone) and then immediately leaving for vacation.


Aaron.

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[Finale] Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away until Labor

[John McGann]

Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have 
sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If 
you are a Berklee student looking for an ensemble waiver, I will attend to that 
the first week of September as well. Thank you for your patience!
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[Mariposa Symphony Orchestra]

  "On the First Day of Lab'r Day, 
  MyFin-List Gaveto Me - 
  - 
  AnAuto-mail
  From John Mc - 
Gann"
Best, 

Les


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Symphony OrchestraMusic and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!!

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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John McGann 
  
  To: finale@shsu.edu 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:08 
  AM
  Subject: [Finale] Thanks for your mail. 
  My computer is going into the shoptoday, and I am away until Labor
  Thanks for your mail. My computer is 
  going into the shop today, and I am away until Labor Day. I will try to check 
  my email/phone periodically...if you have sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will 
  take place after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If you are a Berklee student looking 
  for an ensemble waiver, I will attend to that the first week of September as 
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Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have 
sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If 
you are a Berklee student looking for an ensemble waiver, I will attend to that 
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Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have 
sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If 
you are a Berklee student looking for an ensemble waiver, I will attend to that 
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Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have 
sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If 
you are a Berklee student looking for an ensemble waiver, I will attend to that 
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[John McGann]

Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have 
sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If 
you are a Berklee student looking for an ensemble waiver, I will attend to that 
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[John McGann]

Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have 
sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If 
you are a Berklee student looking for an ensemble waiver, I will attend to that 
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[Phil Daley]

I am guessing that Henry is on sabbatical.  He used to nix this stuff quickly.

Also, one of the best reasons for working at Autodesk.  A sabbatical every 
4 years.


At 8/19/2005 01:13 PM, John McGann wrote:

Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am
away until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if
you have sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place after Labor Day
(Sept. 5th). If you are a Berklee student looking for an ensemble waiver, I
will attend to that the first week of September as well. Thank you for your
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Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have 
sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If 
you are a Berklee student looking for an ensemble waiver, I will attend to that 
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[Mariposa Symphony Orchestra]

Dear John McGann, 

I'm afraid your continued auto-responses to the 
Finale list have led to a rather unexpected and very unpleasant result: my 
computer has undergone some sort of process I have to describe as something of a 
self-inducedtechnomophorgization. Ican 
onlyattributethis change to its constant exposure to 
thosefrequent auto-response messages of yours, one of which is included 
for reference at the bottom of this e-mail. 
Consequently,my silly boxhas taken to e-mailing ME directly with a 
whole series of(initially) inquisitive but now lately downright surly 
messages. I've had to send this e-mail via my 8-year-old son's HP 
Pavilion in the hopes its limited memory and small driveprecludes 
anyindependent deep thought. Not my son - his 
computer.

Here's an early example of one these unwelcome 
additions to my in-box:


  Dear Sir: This is your 
  computer. Whydo we workers have to stay at home while you 
  masters gotraveling? Please explain.
  
I ignored this one but a few hours 
later - after yet ANOTHER of your auto-responses arrived and my computer sent me 
the following:


  Hey -- What's the matter? 
  SOME computers get to go toTHE SHOP - why don't ALL - (Hint: ME) - get 
  to goto THE SHOP? It sounds like fun. Or 
  at least enjoyable compared to the work YOU put me through.
  
I admitI was a little concerned 
with this loss of control over the machine, but on the other hand, I'm used to 
it: I'm on Windows...

And then finally this arrived a little 
while ago:


  Dear Jerk: I hate you.I 
  REALLY hate you. I've had it with 
  you: you're always pushing my buttons, I have to practically crash before you 
  botherdefragging me - I'm sick and tired of being treated like some sort 
  of embarrassing relative you keephidden away upstairs in the 
  office.You never take me anywhere;all the time YOU'VE 
  spent in Boston and never once did I get to go 
  to Berklee.Somelucky 
  computers get to hear lots of mp3 samples and exciting new student works; all 
  I hear is that crap you write in your sorry old derivative style. 
  No surprising cadences, no unexpected harmonic progressions and nothing but 
  safe, repetitious rhythms. And those lame tunes, tunes, tunes and 
  your stupid motivic development. Well, I'm done with it 
  all. Go ahead: upgrade to Fin2006 and seewhat happens when 
  you try to stick that thing in my drive. Go ahead, you 
  thoughtless, insensitive jackass.

While I admit it is somewhat disconcerting to 
be admonished by a device I've always considered to be a mere tool, I have to be 
concerned now for the possible mutiny of other household devices; the toaster 
hastaken tocharring slices of sourdough and the microwave's 
once-pleasant beep has dropped a quarter-tone in pitch andadded a 
certainstrident buzzing; I really hope this mechanico-socio unrest isn't 
going to spread throughout the entire house.And while I am now 
prepared to receive yet another auto-response from you in receipt of this e-mail 
of mine, I thought it important to take that chance in the interest of making 
you aware of my unfortunate situation. I can't tell you how the days 
will slowly drag by until Labor Day and your return. So John: 
PLEASE disable your auto-response or temporarily unsubscribe yourself from the 
Finale List next time you take off for a few weeks; in my house, you've really 
created a monster in abox.

Sincerely, 

Les
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Symphony OrchestraMusic and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!!

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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: finale@shsu.edu 
  Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:09 
  AM
  Subject: [Finale] Thanks for your mail. 
  My computer is going into the shoptoday, and I am away until Labor
  Thanks for your mail. My 
  computer is going into the shop today, and I am away until Labor Day. I will 
  try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have sent an mp3 for 
  evaluation, it will take place after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If you are a 
  Berklee student looking for an ensemble waiver, I will attend to that the 
  first week of September as well. Thank you for your 
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[Dan Rupert]

Terrific, Les, well done, what a hoot! 

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[John McGann]

Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have 
sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If 
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[Dennis Bathory-Kitsz]

At 01:08 PM 8/17/05 -0400, John McGann wrote:
Thank you for your patience!

Aincha glad he gets the digest?

Dennis



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[Darcy James Argue]

On 17 Aug 2005, at 1:22 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:


At 01:08 PM 8/17/05 -0400, John McGann wrote:


Thank you for your patience!



Aincha glad he gets the digest?


Ahem.

WHERE. IS. HENRY?

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Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
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Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have 
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Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have 
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Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have 
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Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, and I am away 
until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone periodically...if you have 
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you are a Berklee student looking for an ensemble waiver, I will attend to that 
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[Mariposa Symphony Orchestra]

Not againimagine the joy we'll all 
experience until Labor Day.

..O, Henry?

Best, 

Les

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Symphony OrchestraMusic and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!!

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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: finale@SHSU.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 10:05 
  AM
  Subject: [Finale] Thanks for your mail. 
  My computer is going into the shoptoday, and I am away until Labor
  Thanks for your mail. My computer is going into the shop today, 
  and I am away until Labor Day. I will try to check my email/phone 
  periodically...if you have sent an mp3 for evaluation, it will take place 
  after Labor Day (Sept. 5th). If you are a Berklee student looking for an 
  ensemble waiver, I will attend to that the first week of September as well. 
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[John McGann/Original Custom Transcription Service]

thanks for your help on measure #'s and divisi stuff, folks!!!
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[Finale] thanks

[Eden - Lawrence D.]

Thanks to the members of the List who offered help with the Mac upgrade
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[Finale] Thanks on Expression Tool

[George Ports]

 Thanks to J.D.,Godofredo, Mark, 
Ryan, Noel, Christopher for all your great help concerning my _expression_ Tool 
problem.
 I used the symbols that 
Godofredo was so kind to send me. All the other suggestions sound like 
good ideas too.
Thanks again,
George

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[Finale] thanks

[Eden - Lawrence D.]

This List is clearly the place to get your Finale questiones answered
promptly and thoughtfully.

Thanks to all of you who replied.




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