RE: [Finale] Tiny text
Your employer is correct. If you are using Outlook Web Access (as well as other similar programs) this is a setting that cannot be changed. Regards, Brennon Bortz [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Williams, Jim Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:48 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] Tiny text Just FYI-- Several of us who use employer-sponsored email are locked into HTML. Though I have asked for plain text on numerous occasions, my employer informs me that it is not possible to set our Outlook Web Access to plain text. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] behalf of John Howell Sent: Wed 13-Apr-05 9:42 To: finale@shsu.edu Cc: Subject: Re: [Finale] Tiny text I second the call for plain text. HTML code was never intended to be a universal and ideal method of internet communication, and in fact lacks a number of upper level characters. I did not receive either message with tiny type. Both came through in the format I've specified in my Settings. (Using MacEudora 6.2.1 on tiMac PowerBook G4 with OS 10.3.8.) In an older OS yes, some html messages came through almost unreadable, either with embedded code or in some fancy but unreadable font. John At 11:23 AM +0200 4/13/05, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Well, perhaps this is a good opportunity to ask whether it would be possible for all Finale listers to use plain text meassages on this list? That's actually including you, Lawrence, your messages also come through as html. On the other hand I know that it is difficult for aol users to do this, although some seem to manage. (And yes, the text was tiny, but it wouldn't have been had it been plain text.) Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: In a message dated 13/04/2005 04:22:28 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ^The answer to your question is influenced in part by the genre(s) of music you are doing or plan to do. Is it my mail server which is at fault (or my eyes) or has the text above come through illegibly small to everyone? All the best, Lawrence þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- John Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tiny text
Well, perhaps this is a good opportunity to ask whether it would be possible for all Finale listers to use plain text meassages on this list? That's actually including you, Lawrence, your messages also come through as html. On the other hand I know that it is difficult for aol users to do this, although some seem to manage. (And yes, the text was tiny, but it wouldn't have been had it been plain text.) Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: In a message dated 13/04/2005 04:22:28 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ^The answer to your question is influenced in part by the genre(s) of music you are doing or plan to do. Is it my mail server which is at fault (or my eyes) or has the text above come through illegibly small to everyone? All the best, Lawrence þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tiny text
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 13/04/2005 04:22:28 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The answer to your question is influenced in part by the genre(s) of music you are doing or plan to do. Is it my mail server which is at fault (or my eyes) or has the text above come through illegibly small to everyone? It was way too small for me -- I do wish people wouldn't try to get cute and send HTML in e-mail. Plain text, so everybody can read the darn messages, works best and uses the least bandwidth. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tiny text
In a message dated 13/04/2005 10:24:01 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's actually including you, Lawrence, your messages also come through as html. On the other hand I know that it is difficult for aol users to do this, although some seem to manage. Ah, so that's the problem. Until fairly recently it was, to all intents and purposes, impossible to send AOL e-mails in plain text - I believe it was actually possible if you had a degree in computer programming and a few hours to spend on every e-mail. (I once saw a set of instructions which ran to two pages of typed A4.) They have at last upgraded the system and now it's just a matter of selecting the off screen compose as plain text button from a drop down menu, but as far as I know it still isn't possible to make it the default. It's now a question of remembering to do it. All the best, Lawrence þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tiny text
Well, at least I can report success: your message came through as very beautiful and standard plain text. So if anyone knows how to make this option sticky for AOL users, a lot of listers would be very happy! Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: In a message dated 13/04/2005 10:24:01 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's actually including you, Lawrence, your messages also come through as html. On the other hand I know that it is difficult for aol users to do this, although some seem to manage. Ah, so that's the problem. Until fairly recently it was, to all intents and purposes, impossible to send AOL e-mails in plain text - I believe it was actually possible if you had a degree in computer programming and a few hours to spend on every e-mail. (I once saw a set of instructions which ran to two pages of typed A4.) They have at last upgraded the system and now it's just a matter of selecting the off screen compose as plain text button from a drop down menu, but as far as I know it still isn't possible to make it the default. It's now a question of remembering to do it. All the best, Lawrence þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tiny text
Johannes Gebauer / 05.4.13 / 08:44 AM wrote: So if anyone knows how to make this option sticky for AOL users, a lot of listers would be very happy! There are two things can be done to improve the situation. - This list should disable HTML option at MailMan2 admin interface (admin, please?). - AOL user should use POP mail client and avoid using AOL mail interface. On Mac side, using AppleMail works much better with AOL for archiving and address management, even more so when used with .Mac sync service. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tiny text
LAWRENCE queried: Is it my mail server which is at fault (or my eyes) or has the text ^The answer to your question is influenced in part by the genre(s) of music you are doing or plan to do. come through illegibly small to everyone? Small, yes. Illegibly so, no. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Tiny text
I second the call for plain text. HTML code was never intended to be a universal and ideal method of internet communication, and in fact lacks a number of upper level characters. I did not receive either message with tiny type. Both came through in the format I've specified in my Settings. (Using MacEudora 6.2.1 on tiMac PowerBook G4 with OS 10.3.8.) In an older OS yes, some html messages came through almost unreadable, either with embedded code or in some fancy but unreadable font. John At 11:23 AM +0200 4/13/05, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Well, perhaps this is a good opportunity to ask whether it would be possible for all Finale listers to use plain text meassages on this list? That's actually including you, Lawrence, your messages also come through as html. On the other hand I know that it is difficult for aol users to do this, although some seem to manage. (And yes, the text was tiny, but it wouldn't have been had it been plain text.) Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: In a message dated 13/04/2005 04:22:28 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ^The answer to your question is influenced in part by the genre(s) of music you are doing or plan to do. Is it my mail server which is at fault (or my eyes) or has the text above come through illegibly small to everyone? All the best, Lawrence þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- John Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Tiny text
Just FYI-- Several of us who use employer-sponsored email are locked into HTML. Though I have asked for plain text on numerous occasions, my employer informs me that it is not possible to set our Outlook Web Access to plain text. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Howell Sent: Wed 13-Apr-05 9:42 To: finale@shsu.edu Cc: Subject: Re: [Finale] Tiny text I second the call for plain text. HTML code was never intended to be a universal and ideal method of internet communication, and in fact lacks a number of upper level characters. I did not receive either message with tiny type. Both came through in the format I've specified in my Settings. (Using MacEudora 6.2.1 on tiMac PowerBook G4 with OS 10.3.8.) In an older OS yes, some html messages came through almost unreadable, either with embedded code or in some fancy but unreadable font. John At 11:23 AM +0200 4/13/05, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Well, perhaps this is a good opportunity to ask whether it would be possible for all Finale listers to use plain text meassages on this list? That's actually including you, Lawrence, your messages also come through as html. On the other hand I know that it is difficult for aol users to do this, although some seem to manage. (And yes, the text was tiny, but it wouldn't have been had it been plain text.) Johannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: In a message dated 13/04/2005 04:22:28 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ^The answer to your question is influenced in part by the genre(s) of music you are doing or plan to do. Is it my mail server which is at fault (or my eyes) or has the text above come through illegibly small to everyone? All the best, Lawrence aes ofereode - isses swa maeg http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- John Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale winmail.dat___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Tiny text
Just adding my vote for plain text email, it's much easier to deal with. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art - Finale IRC channel server: irc.chatspike.net port: 6667 channel: #Finale - ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
