Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic

2009-12-31 Thread Andrew Stiller
Thanks to all who advised me on this--but I've just discovered that the 
ability to convert a pdf page into a PICT is built right into Preview!


D'oh!

My only comfort is  that  noone else on this list seemed to know that 
either...


--Andrew

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Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic

2009-12-31 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Andrew,

Actually, Andrew, Hiro told you about that feature in Preview shortly after you 
asked your original question:

On 28 Dec 2009, at 11:03 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:

 I wasn't following the thread, but if you just want to convert PDF to bitmap:
 
 Preview.app - SaveAs

I would have told you too, but Hiro beat me to it. I gather you missed his 
response! Anyway, I'm glad you figured it out eventually.

For future reference, Preview can also convert EPS to PDF, which might also be 
useful to you at some point.

Cheers,

- DJA
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On 31 Dec 2009, at 11:05 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote:

 Thanks to all who advised me on this--but I've just discovered that the 
 ability to convert a pdf page into a PICT is built right into Preview!
 
 D'oh!
 
 My only comfort is  that  noone else on this list seemed to know that 
 either...
 
 --Andrew
 
 Andrew Stiller
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 http://www.kallistimusic.com/
 
 The chief cause of problems is solutions.
 
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Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic

2009-12-30 Thread Andrew Stiller


On Dec 29, 2009, at 4:08 PM, George Brooke wrote:

Are your pdf pages in separate files or all in one big file? If they 
are all
in one file with pages in the correct order (page 1, page 2, page 3, 
etc)
then Acrobat Reader can print a booklet. It is an option in the Page 
Scaling

drop down.



Page Scaling dropdown? Where? I don't see it.

--Andrew

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RE: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic

2009-12-30 Thread Richard Yates
Acrobat Reader 9 has this Print Dialog box:

http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/AcroReader-print.jpg
 

 -Original Message-
 From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu 
 [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Stiller
 Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:05 PM
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic
 
 
 On Dec 29, 2009, at 4:08 PM, George Brooke wrote:
 
  Are your pdf pages in separate files or all in one big 
 file? If they 
  are all in one file with pages in the correct order (page 
 1, page 2, 
  page 3,
  etc)
  then Acrobat Reader can print a booklet. It is an option in 
 the Page 
  Scaling drop down.
 
 
 Page Scaling dropdown? Where? I don't see it.
 
 --Andrew
 
 Andrew Stiller
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 http://www.kallistimusic.com/
 
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RE: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic

2009-12-30 Thread George Brooke
Andrew,

As I recall you're on a Mac. I use both Windows (laptop provided by
employer) and Mac. Running Snow Leopard and Adobe Reader 9.2.0, in the
center of the print dialog is Page Scaling with a drop down list of choices:
None, Fit to Printable Area, Shrink to Printable Area, Multiple pages per
sheet, Booklet Printing.

George

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Andrew Stiller
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic


On Dec 29, 2009, at 4:08 PM, George Brooke wrote:

 Are your pdf pages in separate files or all in one big file? If they 
 are all
 in one file with pages in the correct order (page 1, page 2, page 3, 
 etc)
 then Acrobat Reader can print a booklet. It is an option in the Page 
 Scaling
 drop down.


Page Scaling dropdown? Where? I don't see it.

--Andrew

Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://www.kallistimusic.com/

Ignorance is infinite.

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Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic

2009-12-29 Thread Andrew Stiller


On Dec 28, 2009, at 3:44 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:


I'm with Dennis that it's better to try to get
Finale to print the desired final result, since that means you don't
have to futz with a separate graphics editing/PDF construction step.


The problem is at base a Sibelius--Finale one. The composer whose work 
I want to publish uses Sibelius, and he's been sending me pdfs which I 
can then print out for publication purposes. The problem is with the 
extracted parts: I need to be able to print them in booklet order, and 
that can't be done from Preview or Acrobat Reader. This could in theory 
be solved either of two ways: either by me importing the pdf pages into 
Finale and then print out in booklet order (2-up and duplexed on 11x17 
paper) from Finale, or by having the composer create a pdf that is 
already in booklet order so that I could print it straight from Preview 
in the normal way.


Last I looked,  Sibelius could only print booklets by printing one set 
of pages and then refeeding them into the printer for  a second pass. 
Do recent states of the program provide for single-pass print out (to 
pdf)? Any other suggestions?


--And please don't recommend Dolet; the conversion is too lossy.

--Andrew

Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://www.kallistimusic.com/

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Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic

2009-12-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
If you are not on OS X 10.6, use CocoaBooklet:

http://www.iconus.ch/fabien/products/cbeng/cbeng.html

If you are on OS X 10.6, use Create Booklet:

http://web.mac.com/vogelbusch/Site/Programs/Einträge/2009/7/22_Create_Booklet_1.1_support_Snow_Leopard.html

Cheers,

- DJA
-
WEB: http://secretsociety.typepad.com

On 29 Dec 2009, at 11:56 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote:

 The problem is at base a Sibelius--Finale one. The composer whose work I 
 want to publish uses Sibelius, and he's been sending me pdfs which I can then 
 print out for publication purposes. The problem is with the extracted parts: 
 I need to be able to print them in booklet order, and that can't be done from 
 Preview or Acrobat Reader. 


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Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic

2009-12-29 Thread Randolph Peters
 Andrew Stiller wrote:
 The problem is at base a Sibelius--Finale one. The composer whose work I 
 want to publish uses Sibelius, and he's been sending me pdfs which I can then 
 print out for publication purposes. The problem is with the extracted parts: 
 I need to be able to print them in booklet order, and that can't be done from 
 Preview or Acrobat Reader. This could in theory be solved either of two ways: 
 either by me importing the pdf pages into Finale and then print out in 
 booklet order (2-up and duplexed on 11x17 paper) from Finale, or by having 
 the composer create a pdf that is already in booklet order so that I could 
 print it straight from Preview in the normal way.
 
 Last I looked,  Sibelius could only print booklets by printing one set of 
 pages and then refeeding them into the printer for  a second pass. Do recent 
 states of the program provide for single-pass print out (to pdf)? Any other 
 suggestions?
 

CocoaBooklet is a great, free app that will do what you want. It doesn't work 
on Snow Leopard (Mac OS 10.6+) but I seem to recall that you aren't on that OS.

All you do is take your letter sized pdf file and drop it onto CocoaBooklet and 
it will make a new pdf that is properly formatted for center-stapled booklets 
in tabloid size. (You can change those size parameters in the preferences.)

http://www.iconus.ch/fabien/products/cbeng/cbeng.html

Alternatively, you can try adding this free service to your Mac, and this one 
works in Snow Leopard:

http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Word-Processing/Create-Booklet-PDF-Service.shtml


-Randolph Peters



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RE: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic

2009-12-29 Thread George Brooke
Are your pdf pages in separate files or all in one big file? If they are all
in one file with pages in the correct order (page 1, page 2, page 3, etc)
then Acrobat Reader can print a booklet. It is an option in the Page Scaling
drop down.

George Brooke
House of Hope Lutheran Church
New Hope, MN

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Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic


On Dec 28, 2009, at 3:44 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

 I'm with Dennis that it's better to try to get
 Finale to print the desired final result, since that means you don't
 have to futz with a separate graphics editing/PDF construction step.

The problem is at base a Sibelius--Finale one. The composer whose work 
I want to publish uses Sibelius, and he's been sending me pdfs which I 
can then print out for publication purposes. The problem is with the 
extracted parts: I need to be able to print them in booklet order, and 
that can't be done from Preview or Acrobat Reader. This could in theory 
be solved either of two ways: either by me importing the pdf pages into 
Finale and then print out in booklet order (2-up and duplexed on 11x17 
paper) from Finale, or by having the composer create a pdf that is 
already in booklet order so that I could print it straight from Preview 
in the normal way.

Last I looked,  Sibelius could only print booklets by printing one set 
of pages and then refeeding them into the printer for  a second pass. 
Do recent states of the program provide for single-pass print out (to 
pdf)? Any other suggestions?

--And please don't recommend Dolet; the conversion is too lossy.

--Andrew

Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://www.kallistimusic.com/

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Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic (was: copying exprs)

2009-12-28 Thread A-NO-NE Music

On 2009/12/28, at 13:45, Andrew Stiller wrote:

 How? In Mac OS9 there was a wonderful little freeware utility called 
 Print2Pict that would make a pict (or TIFF or GIF) out of a pdf file or 
 anything else, but I know of nothing equivalent under OSX. I now find myself 
 in need of importing whole pdf pages into Finale as graphics, and I sure 
 would like to be able to do that without rebooting in System 9 each time I 
 want to make one of these...


I wasn't following the thread, but if you just want to convert PDF to bitmap:

Preview.app - SaveAs


--
- Hiro

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Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic

2009-12-28 Thread Aaron Sherber

On 12/28/2009 1:45 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:

How? In Mac OS9 there was a wonderful little freeware utility called
Print2Pict that would make a pict (or TIFF or GIF) out of a pdf file or
anything else, but I know of nothing equivalent under OSX. I now find
myself in need of importing whole pdf pages into Finale as graphics,
and I sure would like to be able to do that without rebooting in System
9 each time I want to make one of these...


I wasn't following the whole thread either, but the full version of 
Acrobat can save a PDF as a TIFF. You could also open the PDF in 
Illustrator and save as a TIFF.


Of course, Hiro's suggestion is free for Mac.

Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic

2009-12-28 Thread Noel Stoutenburg

Andrew Stiller wrote:


On Dec 27, 2009, at 7:21 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:


Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:

..., these are all being created as PDFs for them to print.



... Export the pages as graphics,


Sorry I was not clear; in my response to Dennis, I was proposing 
exporting the native Finale pages to ~.tif files, not converting ~.pdf 
files to ~.tif files.


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Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic

2009-12-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Dec 2009 at 14:30, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:

 Andrew Stiller wrote:
 
  On Dec 27, 2009, at 7:21 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
 
  Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
  ..., these are all being created as PDFs for them to print.
 
  ... Export the pages as graphics,
 
 Sorry I was not clear; in my response to Dennis, I was proposing 
 exporting the native Finale pages to ~.tif files, not converting ~.pdf 
 files to ~.tif files.

Do recent versions of Finale allow export to more web-friendly and/or 
more efficient formats? PNG would be ideal.

You'd still have the difficulty of creating the PDFs from the 
exported graphics. I'm with Dennis that it's better to try to get 
Finale to print the desired final result, since that means you don't 
have to futz with a separate graphics editing/PDF construction step.

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Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic

2009-12-28 Thread Florence + Michael

On 28 Dec 2009, at 21:44, David W. Fenton wrote:


Do recent versions of Finale allow export to more web-friendly and/or
more efficient formats? PNG would be ideal.


Finale 2010 for Mac exports EPS, JPEG, PICT PNG and TIFF files.

Michael
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Re: [Finale] importing pdf as graphic

2009-12-28 Thread David W. Fenton
On 28 Dec 2009 at 22:07, Florence + Michael wrote:

 On 28 Dec 2009, at 21:44, David W. Fenton wrote:
 
  Do recent versions of Finale allow export to more web-friendly and/or
  more efficient formats? PNG would be ideal.
 
 Finale 2010 for Mac exports EPS, JPEG, PICT PNG and TIFF files.

The additions there are PNG and JPG, no? JPG is not a proper format 
for printed output of scores, since it's lossy compression.

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