Re: [Finale] Chord tool problem fixed

2005-08-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Aug 2005 at 12:44, Chuck Israels wrote:

 I wish I had a better understanding of how preference files become 
 damaged and why they have such power to wreak havoc on the operation 
 of Finale.  I don't know what good that knowledge would produce, but 
 I am curious.

It's unquestionably a Mac-specific issue, and I've often wondered 
exactly the same thing. 

I've never had such an issue with any version of WinFin I've ever 
used.

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Re: [Finale] Chord tool problem fixed

2005-08-06 Thread Chuck Israels
On Aug 6, 2005, at 1:12 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:On 6 Aug 2005 at 12:44, Chuck Israels wrote: I wish I had a better understanding of how preference files become damaged and why they have such power to wreak havoc on the operation of Finale.  I don't know what good that knowledge would produce, but I am curious. It's unquestionably a Mac-specific issue, and I've often wondered exactly the same thing. I imagine you are right about this, David.Some things are nice on Macs, and some on PC's.  I am used to this platform and unlikely to change, but I certainly recognize that there are advantages to the "other" system as well.Chuck Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com  ___
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Re: [Finale] Chord tool problem fixed

2005-08-06 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Chuck Israels / 2005/08/06 / 03:44 PM wrote:

I wish I had a better understanding of how preference files become  
damaged and why they have such power to wreak havoc on the operation  
of Finale.  I don't know what good that knowledge would produce, but  
I am curious.

As I mentioned before, FinMac pref is binary, while Apple recommends it
to be XML.  There are two ways for an app to handle pref file.  Some app
will keep it open during the session, some others will open/close when
it's called.

My guess is FinMac keeps pref file open during the session.  This means
if process is intercepted and some r/w packet is dropped then the pref
file starts to corrupt.

These little things reminds us that FinMac is still based on Classic
MacOS legacy code, and someday they have to rework from the ground up
again, just like they did with FinMac v3.

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Re: [Finale] Chord tool problem fixed

2005-08-06 Thread Chuck Israels


On Aug 6, 2005, at 1:40 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:


Chuck Israels / 2005/08/06 / 03:44 PM wrote:



I wish I had a better understanding of how preference files become
damaged and why they have such power to wreak havoc on the operation
of Finale.  I don't know what good that knowledge would produce, but
I am curious.



As I mentioned before, FinMac pref is binary, while Apple  
recommends it

to be XML.


I don't have enough knowledge to know why this should matter, or why  
two different kinds of files could both work.




There are two ways for an app to handle pref file.  Some app
will keep it open during the session, some others will open/close when
it's called.

My guess is FinMac keeps pref file open during the session.  This  
means

if process is intercepted and some r/w packet is dropped then the pref
file starts to corrupt.


I think I do understand this.


These little things reminds us that FinMac is still based on Classic
MacOS legacy code, and someday they have to rework from the ground up
again, just like they did with FinMac v3.


I think we all wish for this.  It would probably increase speed (if I  
understand the issues) and perhaps solve a number of other problems,  
but I'm not holding my breath.  Maybe the change to the Intel chips  
will force the issue and MM will consider rewriting from the ground  
up, but it seems like a big job to me, and I wonder if they'll spend  
the time and money to do it.  I'm not holding my breath.


Anyway Hiro, Thanks for the explanation.

Chuck

Chuck Israels
230 North Garden Terrace
Bellingham, WA 98225-5836
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Re: [Finale] Chord tool problem fixed

2005-08-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Aug 2005 at 13:18, Chuck Israels wrote:

 On Aug 6, 2005, at 1:12 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
 
  On 6 Aug 2005 at 12:44, Chuck Israels wrote:
 
  I wish I had a better understanding of how preference files become
  damaged and why they have such power to wreak havoc on the
  operation of Finale.  I don't know what good that knowledge would
  produce, but I am curious.
 
  It's unquestionably a Mac-specific issue, and I've often wondered
  exactly the same thing.
 
 I imagine you are right about this, David.
 
 Some things are nice on Macs, and some on PC's.  I am used to this 
 platform and unlikely to change, but I certainly recognize that there 
 are advantages to the other system as well.

Oh, I certainly didn't intend it as any form of even the most gentle 
Mac bashing -- I have just always been curious about exactly what 
mechanism is involved that makes the preferences so prone to 
corruption.

It reminds me of the early days of the Windows System Registry, which 
back then was very prone to getting messed up. Indeed, Coda avoided 
using the Registry for storing data for a very long time, using INI 
files, instead (and it still does for some things). 

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