Re: [Finale] How to move rehearsal letter on top staff in score only? (Fin2012)

[Jari Williamsson]

On 2013-09-10 20:24, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> Let's say you have boxed rehearsal letters set up to show up above the
> top score staff and the Violin I staff in an orchestral score. And let's
> say you want to move ONLY the rehearsal letter above the top score staff, 
> ONLY in the score.

Here's a script that just moves the expression anchor. Unlink in parts 
prior to running the script. Works in JW Lua beta 0.04 and above.

I'm pasting it below, since I don't think this group can handle 
attachments. Let me know if you want me to e-mail it privately.


Best regards,

Jari Williamsson

---
function plugindef()
-- This function and the 'finaleplugin' namespace
-- are both reserved for the plug-in definition.
finaleplugin.RequireScore = true
finaleplugin.RequireSelection = true
return "Move Expression Anchor", "Move Expression Anchor", "Moves 
the staff list's expression anchor without moving other expression."
end

local dialog = finenv.UserValueInput()
dialog.Title = "Move Expression Anchor"
dialog:SetTypes("Number", "Number")
dialog:SetDescriptions("Horizontal Offset (in EVPUs):",
"Vertical Offset (in EVPUs):")
local returnvalues = dialog:Execute()

if returnvalues == nil then return end
local xoffset = returnvalues[1]
local yoffset = returnvalues[2]
if xoffset == 0 and yoffset == 0 then return end

local region = finenv.Region()
for measnumber = region.StartMeasure, region.EndMeasure do
 local expressions = finale.FCExpressions()
 expressions:LoadAllForItem(measnumber)
 for expr in each(expressions) do
 if expr.StaffListID == 0 then goto continue end
 if expr.Staff ~= -1 then goto continue end
 expr.HorizontalPos = expr.HorizontalPos + xoffset
 expr.VerticalPos = expr.VerticalPos + yoffset
 expr:Save()
 ::continue::
 end
end
---


Best regards,

Jari Williamsson


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Re: [Finale] How to move rehearsal letter on top staff in score only? (Fin2012)

[Darcy James Argue]

Hi Lon,

I do that as a last resort, not as a first resort!

Cheers,

- DJA
-
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On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Lon Price  wrote:

> I've run into similar problems trying to get parts and score to look  
> right.  I found that the simplest solution is to have two separate  
> files - one as "parts" and one as "score."  Problem solved.
> 
> Quoting Robert Patterson :
> 
>> Let's hope they don't "fix" it in a future release!
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Darcy James Argue   
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Robert,
>>> 
>>> That method actually clears the positioning on the top staff as well!
>>> Hence my frustration.
>>> 
>>> However, while messing around with it just now, however, I discovered that
>>> if I invoke the Expression Assignment dialog box on the rehearsal letter
>>> attached to the Violin I staff, I can enter an offset of zero in both boxes
>>> and it will return to the default position without touching the top staff.
>>> So that would seem to be the best method to use going forward.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> - DJA
>>> -
>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Robert Patterson 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I have wrestled with this, too. I can't remember exactly, but I would
>>> start
 with:
 
 1 Everything at default.
 2 Unlink in score
 3 Move top staff where you want it
 4 Select handle violin staff and hit "clear". This should restore it to
 default position.
 
 But every time you move the top mark you will have to go back and clear
>>> it
 in the violin staff.
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue <
>>> djar...@earthlink.net>wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> Let's say you have boxed rehearsal letters set up to show up above the
>>> top
> score staff and the Violin I staff in an orchestral score. And let's say
> you want to move ONLY the rehearsal letter above the top score staff,
>>> ONLY
> in the score.
> 
> I have yet to find an effective method for doing this. Has anyone sorted
> out a good workflow?
> 
> If you move the rehearsal letter in the score, it moves it everywhere
> (including the violin staff in the score, and all parts). This is as
> expected.
> 
> However, if you unlink the rehearsal letter in the score (or hold the
> override key and drag) and move the top rehearsal letter in the score,
>>> the
> rehearsal letter showing on the violin staff also moves. You can move
>>> the
> rehearsal letter showing on the violin staff independently, but whenever
> you adjust the rehearsal letter attached to the top score staff, the
> rehearsal letters showing on other staves move with it.
> 
> It is possible to go to the top part (let's say it's the Flute 1 part),
> hold down the override key, and drag the top rehearsal letter. That
>>> moves
> the rehearsal letter in the top score staff as well without affecting
>>> the
> rehearsal letter attached to the Violin I staff. But possibly you don't
> *want* to move it in the part, meaning you'd have to unlink it in the
>>> part
> after dragging with the override key and remove manual adjustments. But
> that is a lot of work just to make a simple adjustment in the score, and
> also involves a certain amount of guesswork since you are trying to
>>> adjust
> the positioning of a score element by moving it in the part!
> 
> Has anyone figured out a better way to do this?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> - DJA
> -
> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] How to move rehearsal letter on top staff in score only? (Fin2012)

[Lon Price]

I've run into similar problems trying to get parts and score to look  
right.  I found that the simplest solution is to have two separate  
files - one as "parts" and one as "score."  Problem solved.

Quoting Robert Patterson :

> Let's hope they don't "fix" it in a future release!
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Darcy James Argue   
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> That method actually clears the positioning on the top staff as well!
>> Hence my frustration.
>>
>> However, while messing around with it just now, however, I discovered that
>> if I invoke the Expression Assignment dialog box on the rehearsal letter
>> attached to the Violin I staff, I can enter an offset of zero in both boxes
>> and it will return to the default position without touching the top staff.
>> So that would seem to be the best method to use going forward.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> - DJA
>> -
>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Robert Patterson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I have wrestled with this, too. I can't remember exactly, but I would
>> start
>> > with:
>> >
>> > 1 Everything at default.
>> > 2 Unlink in score
>> > 3 Move top staff where you want it
>> > 4 Select handle violin staff and hit "clear". This should restore it to
>> > default position.
>> >
>> > But every time you move the top mark you will have to go back and clear
>> it
>> > in the violin staff.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue <
>> djar...@earthlink.net>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Let's say you have boxed rehearsal letters set up to show up above the
>> top
>> >> score staff and the Violin I staff in an orchestral score. And let's say
>> >> you want to move ONLY the rehearsal letter above the top score staff,
>> ONLY
>> >> in the score.
>> >>
>> >> I have yet to find an effective method for doing this. Has anyone sorted
>> >> out a good workflow?
>> >>
>> >> If you move the rehearsal letter in the score, it moves it everywhere
>> >> (including the violin staff in the score, and all parts). This is as
>> >> expected.
>> >>
>> >> However, if you unlink the rehearsal letter in the score (or hold the
>> >> override key and drag) and move the top rehearsal letter in the score,
>> the
>> >> rehearsal letter showing on the violin staff also moves. You can move
>> the
>> >> rehearsal letter showing on the violin staff independently, but whenever
>> >> you adjust the rehearsal letter attached to the top score staff, the
>> >> rehearsal letters showing on other staves move with it.
>> >>
>> >> It is possible to go to the top part (let's say it's the Flute 1 part),
>> >> hold down the override key, and drag the top rehearsal letter. That
>> moves
>> >> the rehearsal letter in the top score staff as well without affecting
>> the
>> >> rehearsal letter attached to the Violin I staff. But possibly you don't
>> >> *want* to move it in the part, meaning you'd have to unlink it in the
>> part
>> >> after dragging with the override key and remove manual adjustments. But
>> >> that is a lot of work just to make a simple adjustment in the score, and
>> >> also involves a certain amount of guesswork since you are trying to
>> adjust
>> >> the positioning of a score element by moving it in the part!
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone figured out a better way to do this?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> - DJA
>> >> -
>> >> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: [Finale] How to move rehearsal letter on top staff in score only? (Fin2012)

[Robert Patterson]

Let's hope they don't "fix" it in a future release!


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> That method actually clears the positioning on the top staff as well!
> Hence my frustration.
>
> However, while messing around with it just now, however, I discovered that
> if I invoke the Expression Assignment dialog box on the rehearsal letter
> attached to the Violin I staff, I can enter an offset of zero in both boxes
> and it will return to the default position without touching the top staff.
> So that would seem to be the best method to use going forward.
>
> Cheers,
>
> - DJA
> -
> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Robert Patterson 
> wrote:
>
> > I have wrestled with this, too. I can't remember exactly, but I would
> start
> > with:
> >
> > 1 Everything at default.
> > 2 Unlink in score
> > 3 Move top staff where you want it
> > 4 Select handle violin staff and hit "clear". This should restore it to
> > default position.
> >
> > But every time you move the top mark you will have to go back and clear
> it
> > in the violin staff.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue <
> djar...@earthlink.net>wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Let's say you have boxed rehearsal letters set up to show up above the
> top
> >> score staff and the Violin I staff in an orchestral score. And let's say
> >> you want to move ONLY the rehearsal letter above the top score staff,
> ONLY
> >> in the score.
> >>
> >> I have yet to find an effective method for doing this. Has anyone sorted
> >> out a good workflow?
> >>
> >> If you move the rehearsal letter in the score, it moves it everywhere
> >> (including the violin staff in the score, and all parts). This is as
> >> expected.
> >>
> >> However, if you unlink the rehearsal letter in the score (or hold the
> >> override key and drag) and move the top rehearsal letter in the score,
> the
> >> rehearsal letter showing on the violin staff also moves. You can move
> the
> >> rehearsal letter showing on the violin staff independently, but whenever
> >> you adjust the rehearsal letter attached to the top score staff, the
> >> rehearsal letters showing on other staves move with it.
> >>
> >> It is possible to go to the top part (let's say it's the Flute 1 part),
> >> hold down the override key, and drag the top rehearsal letter. That
> moves
> >> the rehearsal letter in the top score staff as well without affecting
> the
> >> rehearsal letter attached to the Violin I staff. But possibly you don't
> >> *want* to move it in the part, meaning you'd have to unlink it in the
> part
> >> after dragging with the override key and remove manual adjustments. But
> >> that is a lot of work just to make a simple adjustment in the score, and
> >> also involves a certain amount of guesswork since you are trying to
> adjust
> >> the positioning of a score element by moving it in the part!
> >>
> >> Has anyone figured out a better way to do this?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> - DJA
> >> -
> >> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Finale] How to move rehearsal letter on top staff in score only? (Fin2012)

[Robert Patterson]

I have wrestled with this, too. I can't remember exactly, but I would start
with:

1 Everything at default.
2 Unlink in score
3 Move top staff where you want it
4 Select handle violin staff and hit "clear". This should restore it to
default position.

But every time you move the top mark you will have to go back and clear it
in the violin staff.




On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Let's say you have boxed rehearsal letters set up to show up above the top
> score staff and the Violin I staff in an orchestral score. And let's say
> you want to move ONLY the rehearsal letter above the top score staff, ONLY
> in the score.
>
> I have yet to find an effective method for doing this. Has anyone sorted
> out a good workflow?
>
> If you move the rehearsal letter in the score, it moves it everywhere
> (including the violin staff in the score, and all parts). This is as
> expected.
>
> However, if you unlink the rehearsal letter in the score (or hold the
> override key and drag) and move the top rehearsal letter in the score, the
> rehearsal letter showing on the violin staff also moves. You can move the
> rehearsal letter showing on the violin staff independently, but whenever
> you adjust the rehearsal letter attached to the top score staff, the
> rehearsal letters showing on other staves move with it.
>
> It is possible to go to the top part (let's say it's the Flute 1 part),
> hold down the override key, and drag the top rehearsal letter. That moves
> the rehearsal letter in the top score staff as well without affecting the
> rehearsal letter attached to the Violin I staff. But possibly you don't
> *want* to move it in the part, meaning you'd have to unlink it in the part
> after dragging with the override key and remove manual adjustments. But
> that is a lot of work just to make a simple adjustment in the score, and
> also involves a certain amount of guesswork since you are trying to adjust
> the positioning of a score element by moving it in the part!
>
> Has anyone figured out a better way to do this?
>
> Cheers,
>
> - DJA
> -
> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>
>
>
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Re: [Finale] How to move rehearsal letter on top staff in score only? (Fin2012)

[Darcy James Argue]

Hi Robert,

That method actually clears the positioning on the top staff as well! Hence my 
frustration.

However, while messing around with it just now, however, I discovered that if I 
invoke the Expression Assignment dialog box on the rehearsal letter attached to 
the Violin I staff, I can enter an offset of zero in both boxes and it will 
return to the default position without touching the top staff. So that would 
seem to be the best method to use going forward.

Cheers,

- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org

On Sep 10, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Robert Patterson  
wrote:

> I have wrestled with this, too. I can't remember exactly, but I would start
> with:
> 
> 1 Everything at default.
> 2 Unlink in score
> 3 Move top staff where you want it
> 4 Select handle violin staff and hit "clear". This should restore it to
> default position.
> 
> But every time you move the top mark you will have to go back and clear it
> in the violin staff.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Darcy James Argue 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Let's say you have boxed rehearsal letters set up to show up above the top
>> score staff and the Violin I staff in an orchestral score. And let's say
>> you want to move ONLY the rehearsal letter above the top score staff, ONLY
>> in the score.
>> 
>> I have yet to find an effective method for doing this. Has anyone sorted
>> out a good workflow?
>> 
>> If you move the rehearsal letter in the score, it moves it everywhere
>> (including the violin staff in the score, and all parts). This is as
>> expected.
>> 
>> However, if you unlink the rehearsal letter in the score (or hold the
>> override key and drag) and move the top rehearsal letter in the score, the
>> rehearsal letter showing on the violin staff also moves. You can move the
>> rehearsal letter showing on the violin staff independently, but whenever
>> you adjust the rehearsal letter attached to the top score staff, the
>> rehearsal letters showing on other staves move with it.
>> 
>> It is possible to go to the top part (let's say it's the Flute 1 part),
>> hold down the override key, and drag the top rehearsal letter. That moves
>> the rehearsal letter in the top score staff as well without affecting the
>> rehearsal letter attached to the Violin I staff. But possibly you don't
>> *want* to move it in the part, meaning you'd have to unlink it in the part
>> after dragging with the override key and remove manual adjustments. But
>> that is a lot of work just to make a simple adjustment in the score, and
>> also involves a certain amount of guesswork since you are trying to adjust
>> the positioning of a score element by moving it in the part!
>> 
>> Has anyone figured out a better way to do this?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> - DJA
>> -
>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>> 
>> 
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