Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics
Hi Dennis, I use graphics all the time (imported eps images), but I have to do all of my graphic-import work in Finale 2003 (Mac) because for some reason later versions display all transparent areas as black, rendering these versions absolutely useless for me. Finale 2003 is before they added the ability to embed graphics in a file, so I can't help you. All I can do is commiserate about how *LAME* Finale's graphic import ability has been in the last few versions. Brian From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 12:00:18 -0500 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Finale Digest, Vol 46, Issue 25 Hi all, I'm sending this again. My requests about graphics here seem to vanish. There must be *somebody* who works with graphics in Finale! :) Anyway, to say again: I'm not sure if this is a bug, or if there is a tool I'm missing. As I've been working on a score, I occasionally have forgotten to check link to file when importing graphics. I would delete the graphic and re-do it with link to file checked. I noticed that the saves were getting slow, and then found that the file had grown to over 80MB -- the embedded graphics (all photos) were not being removed. Doing a data check doesn't help. Saving and re-opening the file and/or Finale doesn't help. Is there a tool to remove these residual embedded graphics? I hadn't noticed this before, but I do see that each piece created from the previous carries forward these deleted graphics that appear to be embedded -- since the compositions are based upon each other, I need to move them forward from the previous one. I tested a new file, imported a graphic, and then deleted it, and did a data check to remove deleted items. The graphics are not removed, and the file always grows to the size of the embedded graphics -- even if they're otherwise completely deleted. Nothing can get rid of these for me. Any help on this? Or someone who can confirm this behavior? (Also, an earlier email that got no responses: Compile Postscript Listing -- which produces the best-looking results -- seems to leave out the graphics. Anyone else see that?) Many thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics
At 02:20 AM 5/20/2007 -0700, Brian Williams wrote: All I can do is commiserate about how *LAME* Finale's graphic import ability has been in the last few versions. Commiseration appreciated. The inconvenience level is increasing dramatically, it seems, over the years. Finale is probably unfixable now ... it's been too long that they haven't addresses issues, while at the same time adding features with their own bugs. I don't see a happy future for it now. It's probably cooked, but I'll use Finale as long as it doesn't fall into bits pieces. Remember how I was trying to do interwoven tuplets a few months ago in Finale? And it was a nightmare of kludges? It turns out they can be done easily in Lilypond just by duplicating the simple math used in the original output file. Guess it's time to learn Lilypond ... Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Hi all, I'm sending this again. My requests about graphics here seem to vanish. There must be *somebody* who works with graphics in Finale! :) The first one didn't vanish, but: A) I don't use a Mac B) I've never embedded a graphic so I have no useful knowledge here. And I also have no use for graphics, and am a bit curious as to what you use them for. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics
At 12:58 PM 5/19/2007, Carl Dershem wrote: And I also have no use for graphics, and am a bit curious as to what you use them for. I can think of several more complicated things, but for starters, when I have a part with a RH page left blank to facilitate page turns, I place a graphic of an arrow at the bottom of that page to indicate that the music continues and the player should turn the page. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 12:58 PM 5/19/2007, Carl Dershem wrote: And I also have no use for graphics, and am a bit curious as to what you use them for. I can think of several more complicated things, but for starters, when I have a part with a RH page left blank to facilitate page turns, I place a graphic of an arrow at the bottom of that page to indicate that the music continues and the player should turn the page. Makes sense. I just use a font with arrows for mine, as it tends to embed easier. cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/# http://members.cox.net/dershem ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 12:58 PM 5/19/2007, Carl Dershem wrote: And I also have no use for graphics, and am a bit curious as to what you use them for. I can think of several more complicated things, but for starters, when I have a part with a RH page left blank to facilitate page turns, I place a graphic of an arrow at the bottom of that page to indicate that the music continues and the player should turn the page. I use a text block, which says This Page Left Blank On Purpose -- Music Continues On The Next Page. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics
Or, if you leave the left hand page empty, except for the page numbering, everything is obvious. dhbailey wrote: I use a text block, which says This Page Left Blank On Purpose -- Music Continues On The Next Page. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics
In a message dated 19/05/2007 21:15:42 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or, if you leave the left hand page empty, except for the page numbering, everything is obvious. Not really - there's always going to be somebody in the orchestra who wastes valuable rehearsal time by asking if the music for page # hasn't printed or whether it's been left blank deliberately. David's way is better. Cheers, Lawrence (whose musicians don't need any help in finding ways of wasting rehearsal time) :-) lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics
Oh, okay. I've never had any complaints, though. Maybe I've been lucky so far. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 19/05/2007 21:15:42 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or, if you leave the left hand page empty, except for the page numbering, everything is obvious. Not really - there's always going to be somebody in the orchestra who wastes valuable rehearsal time by asking if the music for page # hasn't printed or whether it's been left blank deliberately. David's way is better. Cheers, Lawrence (whose musicians don't need any help in finding ways of wasting rehearsal time) :-) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics
At 03:35 PM 5/19/2007, dhbailey wrote: I use a text block, which says This Page Left Blank On Purpose -- Music Continues On The Next Page. And by the time the player finishes reading that. g Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics
Hey! That's relatively standard procedure! And besides, if your musicians CAN'T read that in a sufficiently brief amount of time, GET NEW MUSICIANS!!! I use 'This Page Intentionally Left Blank' in a box. 18-point font. With a helpfully-large V.S. below. Works every time, and even better when they have a good 10 - 15 second multi-measure rest; longer in case of musicians who have to read with their lips moving Best, Les Les Marsden Founding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony Orchestra Music and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!! http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.html http://www.geocities.com/~jbenz/lesbio.html - Original Message - From: Aaron Sherber To: finale@shsu.edu ; finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics At 03:35 PM 5/19/2007, dhbailey wrote: I use a text block, which says This Page Left Blank On Purpose -- Music Continues On The Next Page. And by the time the player finishes reading that. g Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics
I use a 72 pt. page turn arrow. Glyphs speak louder than words. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 19 May 2007, at 5:49 PM, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: Hey! That's relatively standard procedure! And besides, if your musicians CAN'T read that in a sufficiently brief amount of time, GET NEW MUSICIANS!!! I use 'This Page Intentionally Left Blank' in a box. 18-point font. With a helpfully-large V.S. below. Works every time, and even better when they have a good 10 - 15 second multi-measure rest; longer in case of musicians who have to read with their lips moving Best, Les Les Marsden Founding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony Orchestra Music and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!! http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.html http://www.geocities.com/~jbenz/lesbio.html - Original Message - From: Aaron Sherber To: finale@shsu.edu ; finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics At 03:35 PM 5/19/2007, dhbailey wrote: I use a text block, which says This Page Left Blank On Purpose -- Music Continues On The Next Page. And by the time the player finishes reading that. g Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Removing embedded graphics
Blank Page is good enough, IMHO. Quicker to read. The arrow is good, also. Or the obvious - plan the pages so you don't need the blank page, but the blank is much better than a bad turn. I use graphics sometimes. Don't know the solution to this problem, so I hadn't weighed in. I have another problem with graphics I'll ask about soon. R. Horton Louisville Orchestra Barbara Touburg wrote: Or, if you leave the left hand page empty, except for the page numbering, everything is obvious. dhbailey wrote: I use a text block, which says This Page Left Blank On Purpose -- Music Continues On The Next Page. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
