Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
First upgrade them to the last Fin 2 version. (Finale 2.6.3., I believe.) Then open with Fin02, then Fin09. But since you use Mac this is likely to be a daunting task. You may need to use Sheepshaver, but getting that working is a chore in itself. The last time I did this, I gave up and re-edited the whole thing. If you used Independent Key Sigs and had clef changes, you will have to re-do all the clef changes. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Randolph Peters randolphpet...@shaw.ca wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. Some people on this list have kept old versions of Finale around for just this purpose. Before I reinstall some old versions of Finale to try and gently bring these files into the current version I thought I would check with the wisdom of this list. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? Thanks! -Randolph Peters ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
It might work. Another option is to run WinFin02 under VMWare or Parallels on the Mac. The main point is that in my experience Fin02 is the best at bringing old files into the modern world. dc wrote: What about saving them as ETF, and then having someone open them on a PC and saving them in a recent version? -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
vMac is much easier to use versus sheepshaver--you'll just have to find a ROM file I think. Been a while since I used it. On Apr 15, 2009, at 6:42 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: First upgrade them to the last Fin 2 version. (Finale 2.6.3., I believe.) Then open with Fin02, then Fin09. But since you use Mac this is likely to be a daunting task. You may need to use Sheepshaver, but getting that working is a chore in itself. The last time I did this, I gave up and re-edited the whole thing. If you used Independent Key Sigs and had clef changes, you will have to re-do all the clef changes. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Randolph Peters randolphpet...@shaw.ca wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. Some people on this list have kept old versions of Finale around for just this purpose. Before I reinstall some old versions of Finale to try and gently bring these files into the current version I thought I would check with the wisdom of this list. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? Thanks! -Randolph Peters ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Allen Fisher Founder and Principal Developer Fisher Art and Technology al...@fisherartandtech.com i...@fisherartandtech.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
Hello Randolph, I have been upgrading close to 3,000 FIN2.6.3 and 3.5.2 choral files for the past year - going straight to 2008 was the trick. The 2.6.3 files have some expected difficulties due to changes like note attached slurs, text blocks, etc... I've waited to upgrade these files until MakeMusic came out with a version that could do a decent job upgrading them with very little editorial time...2008 was it. Opening these newly created files in 2009 seems fine. Hope this helps, Steve 4/14/09 10:45 PM, Randolph Peters randolphpet...@shaw.ca wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. Some people on this list have kept old versions of Finale around for just this purpose. Before I reinstall some old versions of Finale to try and gently bring these files into the current version I thought I would check with the wisdom of this list. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? Thanks! -Randolph Peters ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
I have this situation come up now and then due to clients' wishes, where I have to go into a very old file, and it's usually archived on a drive somewhere. When they show up as a Unix file, I just use FileBuddy, or an equivalent, to change the Type and Creator codes to FIN3, which will then open in Finale 2007, which is the most current version I use. It should work the same for 2009. If MM has changed the T/C codes, just Get Info from with in FileBuddy to determine what the proper code is. FB allows you to batch change many files as well, so it's really quite easy. I hope this was clear. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. Some people on this list have kept old versions of Finale around for just this purpose. Before I reinstall some old versions of Finale to try and gently bring these files into the current version I thought I would check with the wisdom of this list. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? Thanks! -Randolph Peters ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
Thanks Robert, Allen, Steve, Dennis and JD and for the advice. I'm not clear about Finale's old version history anymore and I can't find a listing that gives all the details. (Maybe I'm not searching hard enough.) Anyway, here is my take away: 1) Finale 2002 does a pretty good job of converting older Finale files. They can then be brought up to Finale 2009. -Steve suggests that you can go straight to Finale 2008 instead of using Finale 2002. 2) If the Finale file is from 1991, then it probably was a Finale 2.6.3 file. 3) Mac Finale 2002 only runs on Classic, so I would have to find an old computer to run it, use SheepShaver, or better yet, try Finale 2002 Windows and perhaps a Windows emulator. (The last option is probably easier than SheepShaver.) By the way, anyone converting old files will be glad to remember that TGTools has a function to turn measure-based slurs into note-attached ones. Robert, do you know of any reasons why I should avoid Steve's suggestion about trying Finale 2008 first? (It does sound like the easiest and quickest method.) -Randolph Robert Patterson wrote: First upgrade them to the last Fin 2 version. (Finale 2.6.3., I believe.) Then open with Fin02, then Fin09. But since you use Mac this is likely to be a daunting task. You may need to use Sheepshaver, but getting that working is a chore in itself. The last time I did this, I gave up and re-edited the whole thing. If you used Independent Key Sigs and had clef changes, you will have to re-do all the clef changes. Randolph Peters wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] 2009 PlugIns....disappeared.
I'm not sure what I did on the Mac, but they no longer appear in the menu. Thanks. noel jones ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
I did that last year when I upgraded an old file from 2.6.3 with disastrous results. Basically, among many other issues, all my expressions were completely messed up and I had to painfully reconstruct them with reference to the printout of the original. Since by then I could not easily use Fin2002 as an intermediary, I chose to completely re-edit the file. The best results I've had bringing 2.6.3 files forward is to use Fin02 as an intermediary. YMMV. I got Sheepshaver to run fairly easily, but then when I got my new computer it quit running. (You need a System 9.0.4 installer disc.) Your query prompted me to go and see if the issue had been resolved and low-and-behold someone has posted a remedy. I mean to try it when I get home. I would love to get older versions (esp. Fin02) working again. Someone mentioned another emulator, vMac. vMac is very easy to run, but it is only capable of emulating a 512KB Mac (68K processor) running System 6 (or maybe 7, not sure exactly). You can get Fin2.6.3 to run under this, which may be necessary if you files are older, but I'm not sure you'll have much success getting FIn02 to run under it. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Randolph Peters randolphpet...@shaw.ca wrote: Robert, do you know of any reasons why I should avoid Steve's suggestion about trying Finale 2008 first? (It does sound like the easiest and quickest method.) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
Well, on Mac, you can drop the files on the program's icon, either in the Dock or anywhere, really, including an alias, and Finale will attempt to open it. If it opens it successfully, just save it again. It will open with Finale the next time. The advantage of dropping the file on an program icon is that it WILL open in the exact version of Finale you want, instead of always defaulting to the latest installed version. I keep several versions of Finale in my Dock for that purpose. You can do the same with a right click (or control click for one- button people) and choose Finale or Other... if it doesn't show Finale as a choice. Christopher On 15-Apr-09, at 15-Apr-09 10:15 AM, J D Thomas wrote: I have this situation come up now and then due to clients' wishes, where I have to go into a very old file, and it's usually archived on a drive somewhere. When they show up as a Unix file, I just use FileBuddy, or an equivalent, to change the Type and Creator codes to FIN3, which will then open in Finale 2007, which is the most current version I use. It should work the same for 2009. If MM has changed the T/C codes, just Get Info from with in FileBuddy to determine what the proper code is. FB allows you to batch change many files as well, so it's really quite easy. I hope this was clear. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. Some people on this list have kept old versions of Finale around for just this purpose. Before I reinstall some old versions of Finale to try and gently bring these files into the current version I thought I would check with the wisdom of this list. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? Thanks! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
The file opening tips are good, but in this case that is not the problem. Finding the best conversion path to the current version of Finale is the issue. -Randolph On 15-Apr-09, at 12:37 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Well, on Mac, you can drop the files on the program's icon, either in the Dock or anywhere, really, including an alias, and Finale will attempt to open it. If it opens it successfully, just save it again. It will open with Finale the next time. The advantage of dropping the file on an program icon is that it WILL open in the exact version of Finale you want, instead of always defaulting to the latest installed version. I keep several versions of Finale in my Dock for that purpose. You can do the same with a right click (or control click for one- button people) and choose Finale or Other... if it doesn't show Finale as a choice. Christopher On 15-Apr-09, at 15-Apr-09 10:15 AM, J D Thomas wrote: I have this situation come up now and then due to clients' wishes, where I have to go into a very old file, and it's usually archived on a drive somewhere. When they show up as a Unix file, I just use FileBuddy, or an equivalent, to change the Type and Creator codes to FIN3, which will then open in Finale 2007, which is the most current version I use. It should work the same for 2009. If MM has changed the T/C codes, just Get Info from with in FileBuddy to determine what the proper code is. FB allows you to batch change many files as well, so it's really quite easy. I hope this was clear. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. Some people on this list have kept old versions of Finale around for just this purpose. Before I reinstall some old versions of Finale to try and gently bring these files into the current version I thought I would check with the wisdom of this list. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
Hmm Christopher, I just tried this since I found your idea interesting. And I could NOT get it to work, either on the program icon or an alias. I'm on Leopard 10.5.6. Any further info on this? J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Well, on Mac, you can drop the files on the program's icon, either in the Dock or anywhere, really, including an alias, and Finale will attempt to open it. If it opens it successfully, just save it again. It will open with Finale the next time. The advantage of dropping the file on an program icon is that it WILL open in the exact version of Finale you want, instead of always defaulting to the latest installed version. I keep several versions of Finale in my Dock for that purpose. You can do the same with a right click (or control click for one- button people) and choose Finale or Other... if it doesn't show Finale as a choice. Christopher On 15-Apr-09, at 15-Apr-09 10:15 AM, J D Thomas wrote: I have this situation come up now and then due to clients' wishes, where I have to go into a very old file, and it's usually archived on a drive somewhere. When they show up as a Unix file, I just use FileBuddy, or an equivalent, to change the Type and Creator codes to FIN3, which will then open in Finale 2007, which is the most current version I use. It should work the same for 2009. If MM has changed the T/C codes, just Get Info from with in FileBuddy to determine what the proper code is. FB allows you to batch change many files as well, so it's really quite easy. I hope this was clear. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. Some people on this list have kept old versions of Finale around for just this purpose. Before I reinstall some old versions of Finale to try and gently bring these files into the current version I thought I would check with the wisdom of this list. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? Thanks! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
Sounds like your LaunchServices database may be corrupted. Drag-and- drop onto the app you want to open with has been a standard Mac operation for many, many years (it predates OS X), so you have either somehow misunderstood the instructions (seems unlikely, just drag and drop a Finale document onto your Finale application icon) or there is something corrupt in your OS X installation. Does drag-and-drop work on other apps? Try dragging a PDF onto Adobe Reader instead of Preview (or vice versa, if Adobe Reader is your default PDF viewer). Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 15 Apr 2009, at 5:01 PM, J D Thomas wrote: Hmm Christopher, I just tried this since I found your idea interesting. And I could NOT get it to work, either on the program icon or an alias. I'm on Leopard 10.5.6. Any further info on this? J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Well, on Mac, you can drop the files on the program's icon, either in the Dock or anywhere, really, including an alias, and Finale will attempt to open it. If it opens it successfully, just save it again. It will open with Finale the next time. The advantage of dropping the file on an program icon is that it WILL open in the exact version of Finale you want, instead of always defaulting to the latest installed version. I keep several versions of Finale in my Dock for that purpose. You can do the same with a right click (or control click for one- button people) and choose Finale or Other... if it doesn't show Finale as a choice. Christopher On 15-Apr-09, at 15-Apr-09 10:15 AM, J D Thomas wrote: I have this situation come up now and then due to clients' wishes, where I have to go into a very old file, and it's usually archived on a drive somewhere. When they show up as a Unix file, I just use FileBuddy, or an equivalent, to change the Type and Creator codes to FIN3, which will then open in Finale 2007, which is the most current version I use. It should work the same for 2009. If MM has changed the T/C codes, just Get Info from with in FileBuddy to determine what the proper code is. FB allows you to batch change many files as well, so it's really quite easy. I hope this was clear. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. Some people on this list have kept old versions of Finale around for just this purpose. Before I reinstall some old versions of Finale to try and gently bring these files into the current version I thought I would check with the wisdom of this list. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? Thanks! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
Opening them and re-saving in 2002 is the best way, then in 2008 or 2009 (reports seem to vary on the best one.) Windows versions of 2002 still run on new equipment, so if you can find a friendly PC user with an old version... As it turns out, the school lab computers here still have FinWin2002 on them... Christopher On 15-Apr-09, at 15-Apr-09 4:42 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: The file opening tips are good, but in this case that is not the problem. Finding the best conversion path to the current version of Finale is the issue. -Randolph On 15-Apr-09, at 12:37 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Well, on Mac, you can drop the files on the program's icon, either in the Dock or anywhere, really, including an alias, and Finale will attempt to open it. If it opens it successfully, just save it again. It will open with Finale the next time. The advantage of dropping the file on an program icon is that it WILL open in the exact version of Finale you want, instead of always defaulting to the latest installed version. I keep several versions of Finale in my Dock for that purpose. You can do the same with a right click (or control click for one- button people) and choose Finale or Other... if it doesn't show Finale as a choice. Christopher On 15-Apr-09, at 15-Apr-09 10:15 AM, J D Thomas wrote: I have this situation come up now and then due to clients' wishes, where I have to go into a very old file, and it's usually archived on a drive somewhere. When they show up as a Unix file, I just use FileBuddy, or an equivalent, to change the Type and Creator codes to FIN3, which will then open in Finale 2007, which is the most current version I use. It should work the same for 2009. If MM has changed the T/C codes, just Get Info from with in FileBuddy to determine what the proper code is. FB allows you to batch change many files as well, so it's really quite easy. I hope this was clear. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. Some people on this list have kept old versions of Finale around for just this purpose. Before I reinstall some old versions of Finale to try and gently bring these files into the current version I thought I would check with the wisdom of this list. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
Hi, JD, I'm still on 10.4, but this has worked this way for as long as I can remember. I can't imagine a situation where this would not work, but I am far from being an expert. Darcy's idea might be closer to the truth. Maybe I'll try this at home with an old file from a PC that doesn't have an .mus extension. That might confuse the poor baby enough to stop working. The lack of .mus sometimes prevents me from simply double-clicking the file to open it. I have had to change file names in a batch before, and use a free file renaming utility that I can't remember right now, because it isn't on this computer! It is dead easy to add .mus to file names in batches (or change spaces to underscores, which is what I had to do mostly). Christopher On 15-Apr-09, at 15-Apr-09 5:01 PM, J D Thomas wrote: Hmm Christopher, I just tried this since I found your idea interesting. And I could NOT get it to work, either on the program icon or an alias. I'm on Leopard 10.5.6. Any further info on this? J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Well, on Mac, you can drop the files on the program's icon, either in the Dock or anywhere, really, including an alias, and Finale will attempt to open it. If it opens it successfully, just save it again. It will open with Finale the next time. The advantage of dropping the file on an program icon is that it WILL open in the exact version of Finale you want, instead of always defaulting to the latest installed version. I keep several versions of Finale in my Dock for that purpose. You can do the same with a right click (or control click for one- button people) and choose Finale or Other... if it doesn't show Finale as a choice. Christopher On 15-Apr-09, at 15-Apr-09 10:15 AM, J D Thomas wrote: I have this situation come up now and then due to clients' wishes, where I have to go into a very old file, and it's usually archived on a drive somewhere. When they show up as a Unix file, I just use FileBuddy, or an equivalent, to change the Type and Creator codes to FIN3, which will then open in Finale 2007, which is the most current version I use. It should work the same for 2009. If MM has changed the T/C codes, just Get Info from with in FileBuddy to determine what the proper code is. FB allows you to batch change many files as well, so it's really quite easy. I hope this was clear. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. Some people on this list have kept old versions of Finale around for just this purpose. Before I reinstall some old versions of Finale to try and gently bring these files into the current version I thought I would check with the wisdom of this list. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? Thanks! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
This discussion starting, I think, to not being able to open an older Finale file. One that says in the Finder it's a Unix Executable file. I made the suggestion about FileBuddy, and Christopher came in with the drag and drop concept. While my Finale files, and others, will open as expected this way, a Unix Ex. file will not. That's what I was referring to and maybe Christopher saw something different. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 15, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Sounds like your LaunchServices database may be corrupted. Drag-and- drop onto the app you want to open with has been a standard Mac operation for many, many years (it predates OS X), so you have either somehow misunderstood the instructions (seems unlikely, just drag and drop a Finale document onto your Finale application icon) or there is something corrupt in your OS X installation. Does drag-and-drop work on other apps? Try dragging a PDF onto Adobe Reader instead of Preview (or vice versa, if Adobe Reader is your default PDF viewer). Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 15 Apr 2009, at 5:01 PM, J D Thomas wrote: Hmm Christopher, I just tried this since I found your idea interesting. And I could NOT get it to work, either on the program icon or an alias. I'm on Leopard 10.5.6. Any further info on this? J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Well, on Mac, you can drop the files on the program's icon, either in the Dock or anywhere, really, including an alias, and Finale will attempt to open it. If it opens it successfully, just save it again. It will open with Finale the next time. The advantage of dropping the file on an program icon is that it WILL open in the exact version of Finale you want, instead of always defaulting to the latest installed version. I keep several versions of Finale in my Dock for that purpose. You can do the same with a right click (or control click for one- button people) and choose Finale or Other... if it doesn't show Finale as a choice. Christopher On 15-Apr-09, at 15-Apr-09 10:15 AM, J D Thomas wrote: I have this situation come up now and then due to clients' wishes, where I have to go into a very old file, and it's usually archived on a drive somewhere. When they show up as a Unix file, I just use FileBuddy, or an equivalent, to change the Type and Creator codes to FIN3, which will then open in Finale 2007, which is the most current version I use. It should work the same for 2009. If MM has changed the T/C codes, just Get Info from with in FileBuddy to determine what the proper code is. FB allows you to batch change many files as well, so it's really quite easy. I hope this was clear. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. Some people on this list have kept old versions of Finale around for just this purpose. Before I reinstall some old versions of Finale to try and gently bring these files into the current version I thought I would check with the wisdom of this list. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? Thanks! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
JD, What happens if you just the .mus extension to the filename? - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 15 Apr 2009, at 6:08 PM, J D Thomas wrote: This discussion starting, I think, to not being able to open an older Finale file. One that says in the Finder it's a Unix Executable file. I made the suggestion about FileBuddy, and Christopher came in with the drag and drop concept. While my Finale files, and others, will open as expected this way, a Unix Ex. file will not. That's what I was referring to and maybe Christopher saw something different. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 15, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Sounds like your LaunchServices database may be corrupted. Drag-and- drop onto the app you want to open with has been a standard Mac operation for many, many years (it predates OS X), so you have either somehow misunderstood the instructions (seems unlikely, just drag and drop a Finale document onto your Finale application icon) or there is something corrupt in your OS X installation. Does drag-and-drop work on other apps? Try dragging a PDF onto Adobe Reader instead of Preview (or vice versa, if Adobe Reader is your default PDF viewer). Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 15 Apr 2009, at 5:01 PM, J D Thomas wrote: Hmm Christopher, I just tried this since I found your idea interesting. And I could NOT get it to work, either on the program icon or an alias. I'm on Leopard 10.5.6. Any further info on this? J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Well, on Mac, you can drop the files on the program's icon, either in the Dock or anywhere, really, including an alias, and Finale will attempt to open it. If it opens it successfully, just save it again. It will open with Finale the next time. The advantage of dropping the file on an program icon is that it WILL open in the exact version of Finale you want, instead of always defaulting to the latest installed version. I keep several versions of Finale in my Dock for that purpose. You can do the same with a right click (or control click for one- button people) and choose Finale or Other... if it doesn't show Finale as a choice. Christopher On 15-Apr-09, at 15-Apr-09 10:15 AM, J D Thomas wrote: I have this situation come up now and then due to clients' wishes, where I have to go into a very old file, and it's usually archived on a drive somewhere. When they show up as a Unix file, I just use FileBuddy, or an equivalent, to change the Type and Creator codes to FIN3, which will then open in Finale 2007, which is the most current version I use. It should work the same for 2009. If MM has changed the T/C codes, just Get Info from with in FileBuddy to determine what the proper code is. FB allows you to batch change many files as well, so it's really quite easy. I hope this was clear. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. Some people on this list have kept old versions of Finale around for just this purpose. Before I reinstall some old versions of Finale to try and gently bring these files into the current version I thought I would check with the wisdom of this list. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? Thanks! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
Christopher, When you do the drag and drop, is the file type listed as a Finale Notation File or Unix Executable File. It was the latter I couldn't get DD to work on. JD On Apr 15, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Hi, JD, I'm still on 10.4, but this has worked this way for as long as I can remember. I can't imagine a situation where this would not work, but I am far from being an expert. Darcy's idea might be closer to the truth. Maybe I'll try this at home with an old file from a PC that doesn't have an .mus extension. That might confuse the poor baby enough to stop working. The lack of .mus sometimes prevents me from simply double-clicking the file to open it. I have had to change file names in a batch before, and use a free file renaming utility that I can't remember right now, because it isn't on this computer! It is dead easy to add .mus to file names in batches (or change spaces to underscores, which is what I had to do mostly). Christopher On 15-Apr-09, at 15-Apr-09 5:01 PM, J D Thomas wrote: Hmm Christopher, I just tried this since I found your idea interesting. And I could NOT get it to work, either on the program icon or an alias. I'm on Leopard 10.5.6. Any further info on this? J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Well, on Mac, you can drop the files on the program's icon, either in the Dock or anywhere, really, including an alias, and Finale will attempt to open it. If it opens it successfully, just save it again. It will open with Finale the next time. The advantage of dropping the file on an program icon is that it WILL open in the exact version of Finale you want, instead of always defaulting to the latest installed version. I keep several versions of Finale in my Dock for that purpose. You can do the same with a right click (or control click for one- button people) and choose Finale or Other... if it doesn't show Finale as a choice. Christopher On 15-Apr-09, at 15-Apr-09 10:15 AM, J D Thomas wrote: I have this situation come up now and then due to clients' wishes, where I have to go into a very old file, and it's usually archived on a drive somewhere. When they show up as a Unix file, I just use FileBuddy, or an equivalent, to change the Type and Creator codes to FIN3, which will then open in Finale 2007, which is the most current version I use. It should work the same for 2009. If MM has changed the T/C codes, just Get Info from with in FileBuddy to determine what the proper code is. FB allows you to batch change many files as well, so it's really quite easy. I hope this was clear. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. Some people on this list have kept old versions of Finale around for just this purpose. Before I reinstall some old versions of Finale to try and gently bring these files into the current version I thought I would check with the wisdom of this list. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? Thanks! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
Hah. Live and learn. That worked; changed the icon right away etc. I tend to not have extensions show for the most part. Probably an old holdover from OS 9. Dunno. But it was nice to learn this simple fix. Thanks Darcy. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 15, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: JD, What happens if you just the .mus extension to the filename? - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 15 Apr 2009, at 6:08 PM, J D Thomas wrote: This discussion starting, I think, to not being able to open an older Finale file. One that says in the Finder it's a Unix Executable file. I made the suggestion about FileBuddy, and Christopher came in with the drag and drop concept. While my Finale files, and others, will open as expected this way, a Unix Ex. file will not. That's what I was referring to and maybe Christopher saw something different. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 15, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Sounds like your LaunchServices database may be corrupted. Drag- and-drop onto the app you want to open with has been a standard Mac operation for many, many years (it predates OS X), so you have either somehow misunderstood the instructions (seems unlikely, just drag and drop a Finale document onto your Finale application icon) or there is something corrupt in your OS X installation. Does drag-and-drop work on other apps? Try dragging a PDF onto Adobe Reader instead of Preview (or vice versa, if Adobe Reader is your default PDF viewer). Cheers, - Darcy - djar...@earthlink.net Brooklyn, NY On 15 Apr 2009, at 5:01 PM, J D Thomas wrote: Hmm Christopher, I just tried this since I found your idea interesting. And I could NOT get it to work, either on the program icon or an alias. I'm on Leopard 10.5.6. Any further info on this? J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Well, on Mac, you can drop the files on the program's icon, either in the Dock or anywhere, really, including an alias, and Finale will attempt to open it. If it opens it successfully, just save it again. It will open with Finale the next time. The advantage of dropping the file on an program icon is that it WILL open in the exact version of Finale you want, instead of always defaulting to the latest installed version. I keep several versions of Finale in my Dock for that purpose. You can do the same with a right click (or control click for one- button people) and choose Finale or Other... if it doesn't show Finale as a choice. Christopher On 15-Apr-09, at 15-Apr-09 10:15 AM, J D Thomas wrote: I have this situation come up now and then due to clients' wishes, where I have to go into a very old file, and it's usually archived on a drive somewhere. When they show up as a Unix file, I just use FileBuddy, or an equivalent, to change the Type and Creator codes to FIN3, which will then open in Finale 2007, which is the most current version I use. It should work the same for 2009. If MM has changed the T/C codes, just Get Info from with in FileBuddy to determine what the proper code is. FB allows you to batch change many files as well, so it's really quite easy. I hope this was clear. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. Some people on this list have kept old versions of Finale around for just this purpose. Before I reinstall some old versions of Finale to try and gently bring these files into the current version I thought I would check with the wisdom of this list. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? Thanks! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] How do I upgrade an old Finale file?
JD, You are right, I just tried it at home with an old file made on a PC without an .mus extension. It was typed as a Unix file, and it refused to open when I dropped it on the Finale icon, unlike all my other Finale files (and even .mid files!) Apparently, EITHER the headers have to be correct (like just about every Finale file I have ever created myself on my own Mac) OR the extension has to be .mus for D+D to work. Fortunately, adding .mus to the filename solves it. You can also right-click (or control click) and choose Open WithOther and then click Show ALL applications (not just the recommended ones) and choose Finale, but this is too long for only one file. I would only go though this rigmarole to open a batch of files at the same time. I took a quick look at the old (fin97) file I opened, and it is an unholy mess! I hope if I ever have to deal with these, I will be able to go through Finale 2002 first to clean them up a bit. BTW, I found the app I use to rename files. It is Renamer4Mac at http://renamer4mac.com/ and it is not free as I thought. I paid for it, but it is invaluable. Christopher On Apr 15, 2009, at 8:12 PM, J D Thomas wrote: Christopher, When you do the drag and drop, is the file type listed as a Finale Notation File or Unix Executable File. It was the latter I couldn't get DD to work on. JD On Apr 15, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Hi, JD, I'm still on 10.4, but this has worked this way for as long as I can remember. I can't imagine a situation where this would not work, but I am far from being an expert. Darcy's idea might be closer to the truth. Maybe I'll try this at home with an old file from a PC that doesn't have an .mus extension. That might confuse the poor baby enough to stop working. The lack of .mus sometimes prevents me from simply double-clicking the file to open it. I have had to change file names in a batch before, and use a free file renaming utility that I can't remember right now, because it isn't on this computer! It is dead easy to add .mus to file names in batches (or change spaces to underscores, which is what I had to do mostly). Christopher On 15-Apr-09, at 15-Apr-09 5:01 PM, J D Thomas wrote: Hmm Christopher, I just tried this since I found your idea interesting. And I could NOT get it to work, either on the program icon or an alias. I'm on Leopard 10.5.6. Any further info on this? J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 15, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Well, on Mac, you can drop the files on the program's icon, either in the Dock or anywhere, really, including an alias, and Finale will attempt to open it. If it opens it successfully, just save it again. It will open with Finale the next time. The advantage of dropping the file on an program icon is that it WILL open in the exact version of Finale you want, instead of always defaulting to the latest installed version. I keep several versions of Finale in my Dock for that purpose. You can do the same with a right click (or control click for one- button people) and choose Finale or Other... if it doesn't show Finale as a choice. Christopher On 15-Apr-09, at 15-Apr-09 10:15 AM, J D Thomas wrote: I have this situation come up now and then due to clients' wishes, where I have to go into a very old file, and it's usually archived on a drive somewhere. When they show up as a Unix file, I just use FileBuddy, or an equivalent, to change the Type and Creator codes to FIN3, which will then open in Finale 2007, which is the most current version I use. It should work the same for 2009. If MM has changed the T/C codes, just Get Info from with in FileBuddy to determine what the proper code is. FB allows you to batch change many files as well, so it's really quite easy. I hope this was clear. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: I've got some old Finale files from 1991 that I want to work with and re-edit in Finale 2009. The files look like Unix files on my Mac, but Finale 2009 does open them. I can't even remember what version I was using in 1991, but it would have been the current version at the time. The problem is that there are way too many errors and bad conversions when I open them in Finale 2009. Some people on this list have kept old versions of Finale around for just this purpose. Before I reinstall some old versions of Finale to try and gently bring these files into the current version I thought I would check with the wisdom of this list. What versions of Finale do I need to start the conversion process, and which ones can I skip? Thanks! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Copying page layout (finale 2009)
A quick question, is there an easy way to copy a staff layout from one page to another? I don't mean an optimization per se (which can be done using TG Tools Staff List Manager), but rather, the position of systems on a page. Thanks Matthew ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
