[Fink-devel] new bindist coming

2003-03-29 Thread David R. Morrison
I'll start making the next binary distribution 48 hours from now, i.e.,
shortly after midnight GMT on April 1.

If you have well-tested packages which should be moved to the stable
tree before the bindist, please move them now.  (But please don't rush
into moving things -- make sure that all of the dependencies are
present and so on.)

All packages in the stable tree must have an MD5 sum for this release.
Packages which are missing dependencies might be removed from the
stable tree during the course of building the bindist.

  -- Dave


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Re: [Fink-devel] building gtk+2-2.0.9-3 with xfree86-4.3

2003-03-29 Thread Peter O'Gorman
On Saturday, March 29, 2003, at 09:50  PM, Chris Zubrzycki wrote:
If i remember correctly, it does not build the xft backend libs then, 
maybe compare the filelisting of the 2 debs? one with xfree 4.2 and 
one with the check removed and against xfree 4.3

I have no idea, and am too lazy to check, I just got tired of not being 
able to update-all and "fixed" it by 'touch'ing that include. Thought 
I'd better let the list know just in case.

Peter



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Re: [Fink-devel] building gtk+2-2.0.9-3 with xfree86-4.3

2003-03-29 Thread Chris Zubrzycki
On Saturday, March 29, 2003, at 07:42  AM, Peter O'Gorman wrote:

Hi,
I just built gtk+2-2.0.9 with xfree86-4.3 with no errors.
The problem seems to have been that xfree86-4.3 does not have 
Xft/XftFreetype.h, but when I grep for this

[pogma:src/gtk+2-2.0.9-3/gtk+-2.0.9] peter% grep -rl 
"Xft\/XftFreetype.h" .
./config.log
./configure
./configure.in

Simply removing the check from configure allows it to build.
(Or did I miss something, and this is a known fix)?
If i remember correctly, it does not build the xft backend libs then, 
maybe compare the filelisting of the 2 debs? one with xfree 4.2 and one 
with the check removed and against xfree 4.3

-chris zubrzycki
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[Fink-devel] building gtk+2-2.0.9-3 with xfree86-4.3

2003-03-29 Thread Peter O'Gorman
Hi,
I just built gtk+2-2.0.9 with xfree86-4.3 with no errors.
The problem seems to have been that xfree86-4.3 does not have 
Xft/XftFreetype.h, but when I grep for this

[pogma:src/gtk+2-2.0.9-3/gtk+-2.0.9] peter% grep -rl 
"Xft\/XftFreetype.h" .
./config.log
./configure
./configure.in

Simply removing the check from configure allows it to build.
(Or did I miss something, and this is a known fix)?
Peter



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Re: [Fink-devel] System-* (Placeholder packages)

2003-03-29 Thread Chris Zubrzycki
On Saturday, March 29, 2003, at 05:04  AM, John Davidorff Pell wrote:

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I've noticed that there are a number of placeholder packages, I was 
just thinking of another, for Tcl/Tk which i just got from CVS, and it 
occurred to me that if we made placeholder packages for every package 
we'd be crazy. Is there a way (perhaps not for the next few releases) 
to have a 'generic' package that can be updated to provide for 
dependancies for the system, or even some built in automatic method? 
I'd be happy to help and/or test (I'm not sure if i would be much help 
if we do a built-in method).
Most likely not. The reason we have these depends is so that every 
person gets exactly the same package, and so that _fink_ has control of 
all the packages it needs. Without this control, many things break as 
you upgrade or clean old programs that you think you no longer need. 
also if is possible to install a program/lib anywhere, and fink would 
have no idea where to look. We dont provide a placeholder package 
unless it supplies *everything* needed, and then usually only if it 
comes with the system

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Re: [Fink-devel] More RSS feeds available

2003-03-29 Thread Max Horn

Am Samstag, 29.03.03 um 02:09 Uhr schrieb Ben Hines:

On Friday, March 28, 2003, at 04:50  AM, Max Horn wrote:

I did mention it just to point out what I now pointed out again above - so far we only posted *major* news announcements to SF.net, for the single reasons that then we usually get on the SF.net front page. Otherwise, there is not much point (IMHO) in posting to the SF.net news system, since http://fink.sourceforge.net is 

Interestingly, the sf.net docs say 'post news more often, you will get on the front page more', which is strange, but whatever. :)


That rule is only a rule of the thumb, and only true if you assume that they pick news for the front page randomly from the pool of all news items. Whenever they update the front page news, they only take news from that day (or at most the day before). Of course that means, the more often you release, the more likely you are to hit a "front page news" day, with a chance of getting to the front.  Furthermore, the more "interesting" news are, the more likely they are too be picked. 
But in reality, this is differently. Contrary to what one might think, it's usually that they first pick a date, and then on that date pick news. In my impression it's more the opposite, they see "interesting" news and then post them. For SF.net, Fink is one of the "interesting" projects, they watch us closely (together with various other projects; I mean, just check out the list of the "projects of the month" to get an idea :-).

Just count how many of our SF.net news in the last year were on the front page (hint: a lot), compute the percentage, and then compare that with any other project :-)


Max


Re: [Fink-devel] XHTML DTDs, SGML catalogs and freetype2

2003-03-29 Thread Max Horn
Am Freitag, 28.03.03 um 23:20 Uhr schrieb Damien Pollet:

Hi,

So first I posted a package for the XHTML DTDs (to use with emacs 
psgml as far as I'm concerned). Though these are XML DTDs, I register 
them to /sw/etc/sgml/catalog.d too since psgml doesn't see to use the 
XML catalog in /sw/etc/xml. I didn't look at this very much though.

Hum, that would be a bug in psgml then, though. Are XML DTDs compatible 
with SGML DTDs ? I.e. is this even legal?


Then to Max : I think we've misunderstood this afternoon on irc :)
You've added /sw/etc/profile.d/libxml2-bin.sh but if I undestood well 
they should export SGML_CATALOG_FILES='/sw/etc/sgml/catalog' instead 
of SGML_CATALOG_FILES='/sw/share/sgml/catalog'. AFAIK 
/sw/etc/sgml/catalog is the general catalog, which is generated from 
the files in /sw/etc/sgml/catalog.d/ (and I have no 
/sw/etc/sgml/catalog :).

Not really a misunderstanding, just a bad case of a copy&paste bug =). 
FIxed it.

Max



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[Fink-devel] System-* (Placeholder packages)

2003-03-29 Thread John Davidorff Pell
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I've noticed that there are a number of placeholder packages, I was 
just thinking of another, for Tcl/Tk which i just got from CVS, and it 
occurred to me that if we made placeholder packages for every package 
we'd be crazy. Is there a way (perhaps not for the next few releases) 
to have a 'generic' package that can be updated to provide for 
dependancies for the system, or even some built in automatic method? 
I'd be happy to help and/or test (I'm not sure if i would be much help 
if we do a built-in method).

JP



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