Re: [Fink-devel] static

2005-02-21 Thread Tony Arnold
All,
On 21/02/2005, at 6:36 PM, Nigel Stanger wrote:
On 21/2/2005 1:49 AM, Peter O'Gorman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
If I recall correctly, the problems come when you have an app that 
needs
fontconfig and also needs a lib that uses the new fontconfig, both 
the older
fontconfig in /usr/X11R6/lib and the new one will be loaded by the 
dynamic
linker and it becomes anyone's guess as to which symbols will be 
used. But I
may not be recalling correctly, so I hope that someone will correct 
me if
I'm wrong.
This sounds like what happened to me with libfreetype in my ploticus2
package. I have it depending on the fink-installed version, but 
couldn't
ensure that it didn't use the X11-installed one. My solution was to 
add
-dylib_file 
/usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib:/sw/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib
(with /sw appropriately abstracted, of course) to the link flags. It's
intended (I think) for situations where you have a single copy of the
library installed in a non-default location, but it seems to work 
just as
well when the library exists in both the default and a non-default 
location.
Check in the ld man page.
I've been using a combination of SetLDFLAGS: -L%p/lib/freetype2/lib 
-Wl,-search_paths_first, and carefully crafted Makefiles - it's working 
(albeit with a small amount of set-up), but at least I'm not clobbering 
the packages that work fine with the X11 installed freetype2.

-t

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Re: [Fink-devel] static

2005-02-21 Thread Tony Arnold
Hey Mike,
On 20/02/2005, at 7:55 PM, Michael wrote:
One Step further on that the fontconfig2-dev package that I molded 
for the 10.2-gcc3.3 tree requires freetype-2.1.4  or later, which is 
currently not there, and on the freedesktop X libs, if by blockers, 
he meant what I am about to say, I apologize for re-asking, but can a 
fink package install into the /usr/X11R6 directory, or does that 
break a policy?
Not unless it is the fink-built version of XFree86 or X.org - if we 
were going to create new freetype/fontconfig2 packages, they would need 
to install into your fink directory.

You're not the only new-kid-on-the-block btw ;)
-T

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[Fink-devel] CVS Unstable Access Request

2005-02-21 Thread Ashley Yakeley
Hi, I maintain a number of packages in unstable. Unfortunately I don't 
have CVS access to the unstable branch, even though I am listed as a 
packager. Could someone give me access to the unstable part of the 
tree? There doesn't seem to be any other convenient mechanism for 
updating packages.

My SF username is ashley-y.

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Re: [Fink-devel] CVS Unstable Access Request

2005-02-21 Thread David R. Morrison
Ashley Yakeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could someone give me access to the unstable part of the 
 tree? 

You now have CVS access.

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Re: [Fink-devel] Pybliographer

2005-02-21 Thread Don McKenzie Paul
On 21 Feb 2005, at 02:51, David R. Morrison wrote:
Sorry to be so slow to respond here: I've only just begun to track  
down what's happening.

When I compile this, I have no problem because the python setup script  
does not find a value for DISPLAY in the environment, and so reports  
cannot test gtk [no DISPLAY].  My first guess was that this is  
because I compile in Terminal.app rather than in an xterm window, but  
even when I tried in an xterm window I got the same result.
I'm using the terminal too for compilation, I've never seen any  
problems from that, at least i don't think so.
Be that as it may, it looks like pybliographer may want the  
pygtk2-py23 package (and presumably also the pygtk2-py23-dev package).  
 Do you have those installed?  Does the situation improve if you  
install them?
After resetting to 2.3 I already had pygtk2-py23 installed, but not the  
dev package. After installing pygtk2-py23-dev as well. it still finds  
/usr/bin/python. Is there an easy way to switch between python 2.3 and  
2.4?

Don
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Am I correct in thinking that this means  it is trying to use  
python form /usr/bin, see line Python='/usr/bin/python'  and
configure:1659: found /usr/bin/python
configure:1672: result: /usr/bin/python
configure:1688: checking python requirements
configure:1715: result: no
configure:1717: error: error in python modules dependencies: No  
module named pygtk
in the above ??? If so, no wonder it can't find pygtk on my system.


Right--that' would indeed do it.  You should check whether the  
configure file will take an argument like --with-python=/sw/bin .

--AH


Thanks for looking at the problems.
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Re: [Fink-devel] policy question

2005-02-21 Thread Joe Block
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David R. Morrison wrote:
| The policy question is: should the new package download the libjpeg 
source
| and copy the needed headers into its build tree, or should the 
libjpeg
| package install the internal headers by hand, for the benefit of 
this
| other package which wants them?

I think that the libjpeg package should install them. If you think it
necessary you can put them in a different include dir and split them 
into a
whole different package. It seems wasteful to require the libjpeg 
source.
I think the libjpeg package should install them to insure that the 
version of the header files that are present correspond to the actual 
version of libjpeg that fink has installed. Otherwise, package B could 
easily download a more recent version of the libjpeg source than the 
one that was used to create the libjpeg package that is live on the 
system, and bad things could happen.

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[Fink-devel] fink validate

2005-02-21 Thread Michael
ok people's this is a bit embarrassing, but please bear with me.  I just 
learned about the fink validate thing last night.  Now when I try to 
validate my glib2 package, I get an error about the patch.

Validating package file glib2.info...
Failed: Error performing percent expansion: unknown % expansion or 
nesting too deep: %N.patch (glib2.info Patch)

I checked  the patch line and it reads Patch: %N.patch
is this the wrong format?
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Re: [Fink-devel] fink validate

2005-02-21 Thread Tony Arnold
Hi Mike,
On 22/02/2005, at 8:51 AM, Michael wrote:
ok people's this is a bit embarrassing, but please bear with me.  I 
just learned about the fink validate thing last night.  Now when I 
try to validate my glib2 package, I get an error about the patch.

Validating package file glib2.info...
Failed: Error performing percent expansion: unknown % expansion or 
nesting too deep: %N.patch (glib2.info Patch)

I checked  the patch line and it reads Patch: %N.patch
is this the wrong format?
No, just change the case :) %N refers to the parent package name - 
there is no parent package name at the top level.

%n.patch will work just fine ;)
-Tony

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[Fink-devel] threads?

2005-02-21 Thread Michael
when I built gcc-3.4.3 on my own, I used a line --enable-threads=posix, 
can everyone using fink in OS X use this threading?  Wouldn't that get 
rid of the annoying gcc: unrecognized option `-pthreads' ?

Mike S
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Re: [Fink-devel] threads?

2005-02-21 Thread Alexander Strange
On Feb 21, 2005, at 5:25 PM, Michael wrote:
when I built gcc-3.4.3 on my own, I used a line 
--enable-threads=posix, can everyone using fink in OS X use this 
threading?
What do you mean?
Wouldn't that get rid of the annoying gcc: unrecognized option 
`-pthreads' ?
No. Threading in Darwin/OS X is always enabled, and -pthreads or 
-pthread is redundant.

Mike S

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Re: [Fink-devel] threads?

2005-02-21 Thread Michael
Tony Arnold wrote:
Hi Mike,
On 22/02/2005, at 9:25 AM, Michael wrote:
when I built gcc-3.4.3 on my own, I used a line 
--enable-threads=posix, can everyone using fink in OS X use this 
threading?  Wouldn't that get rid of the annoying gcc: unrecognized 
option `-pthreads' ?

You've just stepped beyond the boundaries of known space :)
AFAIK, fink isn't super happy about switching out the Apple-installed 
compiler - and I'm not entirely sure that it would get rid of the 
-pthreads messages - they still occur under gcc-4...

My recommendation would be to not change out the compiler if you want 
other people to use your work. A lot of people would be very 
uncomfortable about doing that.

-t

Oops! bad example!, I got people jumpy! lmao.  In my previous endeavors 
to build this stuff on my own gcc-3.4.3 was just on of them, to see if I 
could do it.  But trust me, I am still using the plain old Dev Tools 
December 2002 with the August whatever update to get gcc3.3.  Put your 
minds at ease! :)
That was an example of one of the packages I built, think I did 
something wrong anyways, never worked right, but there were others, and 
I noticed that if I added --enable-threads=posix, I didn't get the gcc: 
unrecognized option `-pthreads'
Where as if I did the same package without that line I did.  Being new 
to this, I am asking whether adding that line to the ConfigureParams 
would break a package for other people

Sorry for the mix up,
Mike S
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[Fink-devel] Volunteering to maintain some of the orphaned fink packages

2005-02-21 Thread Bradshaw, Michael
Hello,

I'd be interested in picking up a handful of packages that lack a
maintainer. I use fink and am from an AIX background, but have also used Mac
since they came out.

What's needed to start with a couple and see how things pan out?

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[Fink-devel] sdl

2005-02-21 Thread Michael
I moved sdl from 10.3/unstable/main into my local directory, to get 
1.2.8 over 1.2.7 but when I install this I get:

/sw/build/sdl-1.2.8-1/SDL-1.2.8/missing: Unknown `--run' option
Try `/sw/build/sdl-1.2.8-1/SDL-1.2.8/missing --help' for more information
configure: WARNING: `missing' script is too old or missing
It  doesn't appear to bother the install, so can anyone tell me what 
causes this?

Mike S
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Re: [Fink-devel] Volunteering to maintain some of the orphaned fink packages

2005-02-21 Thread David R. Morrison
 From: Bradshaw, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net' fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Fink-devel] Volunteering to maintain some of the orphaned fink 
 packages
 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:53:39 -0600
 
 Hello,
 
 I'd be interested in picking up a handful of packages that lack a
 maintainer. I use fink and am from an AIX background, but have also used Mac
 since they came out.
 
 What's needed to start with a couple and see how things pan out?
 
 Michael Bradshaw

That's a great way to get started with helping fink -- thanks for the
offer.  What I would recommend is choosing some packages without
maintainers (from http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/nomaintainer.php) which
are of interest to you -- its always best to volunteer to maintain things
which you'll actually be using.  You should investigate the package a bit:
find out if there is more recent version, and if it needs updating.  (You
should also verify that it actually maintainer-less: once in a while the
list gets confused by inconsistencies between the different fink trees.)

You can get help in updating or revising a package by looking at other
packages, by reading the online documentation, and/or by asking here.

When you are ready to submit a new version, use the package submission
tracker, mention that you are volunteering to take it over, and list
yourself as the new maintainer on the package.

We ask our inexperienced package maintainers to use the submission tracker
at first, where more experienced fink folks can help them with their first
submissions.  After you've gained experience, you're likely to be invited
to become a fink developer.

Thanks again, and welcome.

 -- Dave


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Re: [Fink-devel] sdl

2005-02-21 Thread David R. Morrison
 From: Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Fink-devel] sdl
 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:23:29 -0800
 
 I moved sdl from 10.3/unstable/main into my local directory, to get 
 1.2.8 over 1.2.7 but when I install this I get:
 
 /sw/build/sdl-1.2.8-1/SDL-1.2.8/missing: Unknown `--run' option
 Try `/sw/build/sdl-1.2.8-1/SDL-1.2.8/missing --help' for more information
 configure: WARNING: `missing' script is too old or missing
 
 It  doesn't appear to bother the install, so can anyone tell me what 
 causes this?
 
 Mike S

It happens in various packages, and may just be a side-effect of a
configure test.  I have no idea what causes it, but it appears to be
harmless. 

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[Fink-devel] CofigureParams vs. CompileScript vs. InstallScript

2005-02-21 Thread Michael
ok I am at a loss herre as to the difference.  I have seen in the 
CompileScript ./configure %c, now I have seen in the InstallScript make 
install --prefix=%i, but the way I would do it is add --prefix=%p either 
in the CompileScript or in the ConfigureParams.  Now am I right in 
surmising that these all do the same thing, or am I getting my symbols 
mixed up?

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[Fink-devel] add previous

2005-02-21 Thread Michael
another way I've seen is make install DESTDIR=%d in the compile script.
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[Fink-devel] Re: Validation change

2005-02-21 Thread Daniel E. Macks
How about having 'fink validate' by default always display all
warnings (regardless of user's verbosity setting), and add a
--no-pedantic flag for validate to hide the pedantic/formatting
messages? That way packagers don't accidentally not catch mistakes but
those who want to see major/functional mistakes can easily separate
the wheat from the chaff.

dan

Daniel Macks [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I certainly thing there *are* levels of severity of validator
 warnings.
[...]
 On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 10:48:10PM -0700, TheSin wrote:
 why would anything in validate be under any verbosity?  ppl that run it 
 should see all warnings and errors I'd think.
 
 On 12-Feb-05, at 8:15 PM, Ben Hines wrote:
 
 I disagree with making ALL of these desc checks only verb  3.  Did 
 you mean to only change the  45 char desc warning? (due to 
 bracketing, all were lowered to verb 4, which means noone will ever 
 see them.
 
 } elsif (Fink::Config::verbosity_level()  3) {
 # Some pedantic checks
 [...]
 print Warning: Length of package description 
 exceeds 45 characters. ($filename)\n;
 [...]
 print Warning: Description starts with \A\ or An\
 [...]
 print Warning: Description starts with lower case. 
 [...]
 print Warning: Description contains package name. 
 [...]
 print Warning: Description ends with \.\. 


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[Fink-devel] popt and BuildDependsOnly policy

2005-02-21 Thread Dave Vasilevsky
Hi folks,
Thanks to tonyarnold, the 'popt' package should no longer be required 
for packages that use popt-shlibs to have proper localization. Packages 
that Depend on popt despite it being BuildDependsOnly should no longer 
do so.

So if you see fink warn about a package depending on popt, please fix 
the offending package.

Thanks,
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