Re: [Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running
David, Using a rusty Amiga 4000T, a rebuilt PowerBook G4, a homebuilt Ubuntu box Heh. If you can get PostgreSQL running on the Amiga I'd love to write about it. --Josh - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running
Perhaps some sort of postgre-db-running package would be a good idea? It could depend on the installation of any of the versions of postgre and allow packages (and users!) the ability to depend on it being installed and running. It could probably error on install in the case where the user has it running already. On 16 Jan 2008, at 9:05 pm, Josh Berkus wrote: All, In general, installation of database software does not imply that you want the database server running. It might be installed as a dependency by another package that has specific requirements for how the database is set up, so initializing and starting some default instance is not really appropriate. For that matter, some users will already have PostgreSQL installed and want to use the existing instance. Or some users may be running the old Apple Remote Desktop which unfortunately runs PostgreSQL on the default port and causes a conflict. -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- This email has been verified as Virus free. Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running
On Jan 15, 2008, at 6:37, Kurt Schwehr wrote: Here are some additional notes http://schwehr.org/blog/archives/2008-01.html#e2008-01-09T13_40_59.txt setting up a postgresql/postgis database on mac osx 10.5 with fink pgsql.sh start sudo daemonic enable postgresql82 Thanks for the info. Is there some kind of technical problem to having the fink install set things up such that the server is started for the user? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running
On Jan 15, 2008 11:15 PM, Damien Kick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2008, at 6:37, Kurt Schwehr wrote: Here are some additional notes http://schwehr.org/blog/archives/2008-01.html#e2008-01-09T13_40_59.txt setting up a postgresql/postgis database on mac osx 10.5 with fink pgsql.sh start sudo daemonic enable postgresql82 The last line above is supposed to set things up so that the server is automatically started on bootup. Thanks for the info. Is there some kind of technical problem to having the fink install set things up such that the server is started for the user? -- Alexander K. Hansen akh AT finkproject DOT org Fink User Liaison and Documenter - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running
Nigel, Take a look at /sw/var/postgresql-8.2/pgsql.log You may find the reason for postgresql not starting in that log file. -kurt - Original Message From: Nigel Stanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgsql.sh start sudo daemonic enable postgresql82 I'm finding that PostgreSQL isn't starting when I reboot my machine. Everything is in the correct place, and daemonic lists postgresql82 when I do a dump, yet the postmaster isn't automatically loading. I have to crank it up by hand. Weirdly, the StartupItem installed by daemonic works fine when called from the command line. Needless to say, this is annoying :) Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running
On Jan 16, 2008, at 4:44, Alexander Hansen wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 11:15 PM, Damien Kick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2008, at 6:37, Kurt Schwehr wrote: Here are some additional notes http://schwehr.org/blog/archives/2008-01.html#e2008-01-09T13_40_59.txt setting up a postgresql/postgis database on mac osx 10.5 with fink pgsql.sh start sudo daemonic enable postgresql82 The last line above is supposed to set things up so that the server is automatically started on bootup. I understand that but I was wondering if this was supposed to have been done by fink during the install. Not that I mind doing it by hand after the install but I'm just wondering if perhaps I missed some error messages about these steps having failed during the fink install. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running
Hi Damien, Here is my take on not starting postgresql: It is usually the maintainers choice (in this case Ben) on how to handle this. I can't speak for Ben, but in this case I think it is correct that the postgresql packages do not automatically turn on the databases. There are a number of packages that require various versions of postgresql be installed, but that doesn't mean a user that installed those other packages wants to have a bunch of postgresql database servers running. It's not possible to handle the needs of every user, so in this case, having instructions in fink describe postgresql82 and at the end of the install seems to me to be a good balance. I encourage you to contribute documentation and and please do continue to suggest improvements to packages. -kurt - Original Message From: Damien Kick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alexander Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:22:33 AM Subject: Re: [Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running On Jan 16, 2008, at 4:44, Alexander Hansen wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 11:15 PM, Damien Kick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2008, at 6:37, Kurt Schwehr wrote: Here are some additional notes http://schwehr.org/blog/archives/2008-01.html#e2008-01-09T13_40_59.txt setting up a postgresql/postgis database on mac osx 10.5 with fink pgsql.sh start sudo daemonic enable postgresql82 The last line above is supposed to set things up so that the server is automatically started on bootup. I understand that but I was wondering if this was supposed to have been done by fink during the install. Not that I mind doing it by hand after the install but I'm just wondering if perhaps I missed some error messages about these steps having failed during the fink install. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running
In general, installation of database software does not imply that you want the database server running. It might be installed as a dependency by another package that has specific requirements for how the database is set up, so initializing and starting some default instance is not really appropriate. I'm searching for a reasonable analogy, but having a database engine set up a database instance upon installation is somewhat akin to having the installation of Word create a letter for you. Besides, most of the network services that come preinstalled with OS X out of the box are not started by default, either - the web server, remote access (RDC/SSH), etc. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running
All, In general, installation of database software does not imply that you want the database server running. It might be installed as a dependency by another package that has specific requirements for how the database is set up, so initializing and starting some default instance is not really appropriate. For that matter, some users will already have PostgreSQL installed and want to use the existing instance. Or some users may be running the old Apple Remote Desktop which unfortunately runs PostgreSQL on the default port and causes a conflict. -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running
Here are some additional notes http://schwehr.org/blog/archives/2008-01.html#e2008-01-09T13_40_59.txt setting up a postgresql/postgis database on mac osx 10.5 with fink pgsql.sh start sudo daemonic enable postgresql82 -kurt (goatbar) - Original Message From: Damien Kick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 10:45:15 PM Subject: [Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running I'm running $ fink --version Package manager version: 0.27.8 Distribution version: 0.8.1.rsync powerpc And I've recently installed PostgreSQL 8.2.4-1021 I was surprised to find that I could not connect to the server $ psql psql: could not connect to server: No such file or directory Is the server running locally and accepting connections on Unix domain socket /tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432? But I'm also not quite sure what I should do to get it started. Any advice on where to get started? - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running
On 16/1/2008 1:37 AM, Kurt Schwehr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus: pgsql.sh start sudo daemonic enable postgresql82 I'm finding that PostgreSQL isn't starting when I reboot my machine. Everything is in the correct place, and daemonic lists postgresql82 when I do a dump, yet the postmaster isn't automatically loading. I have to crank it up by hand. Weirdly, the StartupItem installed by daemonic works fine when called from the command line. Needless to say, this is annoying :) -- Nigel Stanger, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND.Fnord. Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea --- massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it. --- Gene Spafford - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running
I'm running $ fink --version Package manager version: 0.27.8 Distribution version: 0.8.1.rsync powerpc And I've recently installed PostgreSQL 8.2.4-1021 I was surprised to find that I could not connect to the server $ psql psql: could not connect to server: No such file or directory Is the server running locally and accepting connections on Unix domain socket /tmp/.s.PGSQL.5432? But I'm also not quite sure what I should do to get it started. Any advice on where to get started? - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] PostgreSQL isn't running
Damien, But I'm also not quite sure what I should do to get it started. Any advice on where to get started? initdb -D /var/postgres/8.2/data pg_ctl -D /var/postgres/8.2/data start -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
