Re: [Fink-users] X desktop manager availability in 10,7
Hello, At 14:35 -0700 on 2012-3-29 Alexander Hansen wrote: On 3/29/12 2:08 PM, Stefan Bruda wrote: I keep monitoring the 10.7 tree (I have a 10.7 virtual machine for the purpose) and I keep noticing that no desktop manager (such as Gnome, KDE, or Xfce) is yet available. I am therefore wondering whether this is a matter of issues with those desktop managers or is simply caused by the fact that nobody has bothered to port them to 10.7. I'm thinking it's probably the former. Fair enough, thank you. Should somebody have any idea what are the issues (so that I can do an informed poking myself to see if I can be of help) and/or if there is still hope I would appreciate hearing about it. In particular the only thing that keeps me still on 10.6 is the absence of Gnome 2 (preferred) or similar. I am an old Unix hand and I feel much more comfortable with sloppy focus and the other goodies offered by X so I am spending as much time as possible in there. In other words, advice on the matter is much appreciated. Check fink list -s gnome. The whole desktop isn't available, but at least some of the components are. It is half usable indeed, but it still misses quite a bit of functionality (such as a PDF viewer or a populated menu). It is also a bit flaky. Is this complete? Should I be aware of anything else? Nope, you're looking at the full available set of packages. Good to know, thank you again. Cheers, Stefan -- If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass No HTML emails and proprietary attachments please http://bruda.ca/ascii -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.macosx.fink.user Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] X desktop manager availability in 10,7
On 3/30/2012 1:41 PM, Stefan Bruda wrote: Hello, At 14:35 -0700 on 2012-3-29 Alexander Hansen wrote: On 3/29/12 2:08 PM, Stefan Bruda wrote: I keep monitoring the 10.7 tree (I have a 10.7 virtual machine for the purpose) and I keep noticing that no desktop manager (such as Gnome, KDE, or Xfce) is yet available. I am therefore wondering whether this is a matter of issues with those desktop managers or is simply caused by the fact that nobody has bothered to port them to 10.7. I'm thinking it's probably the former. Fair enough, thank you. Should somebody have any idea what are the issues (so that I can do an informed poking myself to see if I can be of help) and/or if there is still hope I would appreciate hearing about it. In particular the only thing that keeps me still on 10.6 is the absence of Gnome 2 (preferred) or similar. I am an old Unix hand and I feel much more comfortable with sloppy focus and the other goodies offered by X so I am spending as much time as possible in there. In other words, advice on the matter is much appreciated. Check fink list -s gnome. The whole desktop isn't available, but at least some of the components are. It is half usable indeed, but it still misses quite a bit of functionality (such as a PDF viewer or a populated menu). It is also a bit flaky. If you have 10.7 running someplace, it is pretty easy to test packages from the 10.5/6 tree. Sometimes they'll work as is, other times they'll need a little patching, and sometimes they'll fail miserably :) Do do this: 1) modify /sw/etc/fink.conf so the SelfUpdateTrees line looks like this: SelfUpdateTrees: 10.7 10.4 This won't activate the 10.4 packages for a 10.7 Fink install, but the next selfupdate will download all the package .info files so they're present on your machine. Therefore, copying them into your active 10.7 install will be much easier than downloading individually via a web interface. The web interface is here: http://fink.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/fink/dists/10.4/stable/main/finkinfo/ 2) Search the 10.4 files (in /sw/fink/10.4/stable/main/finkinfo or at the above URL) for any package that you want that is missing and copy the .info (and .patch if needed) to /sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo and try building the package you just copied over. 3) Let the maintainer, and/or the fink-users or fink-devel mailing lists know about your success (or failure), including any necessary tweaks. Hanspeter -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.macosx.fink.user Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] X desktop manager availability in 10,7
Hello, At 14:05 -0400 on 2012-3-30 Hanspeter Niederstrasser wrote: If you have 10.7 running someplace, it is pretty easy to test packages from the 10.5/6 tree. Sometimes they'll work as is, other times they'll need a little patching, and sometimes they'll fail miserably :) Of course, this is to be expected. Do do this: 1) modify /sw/etc/fink.conf so the SelfUpdateTrees line looks like this: SelfUpdateTrees: 10.7 10.4 Great, thank you. This makes things much easier. I will definitely try my luck with several packages. Stefan -- If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass No HTML emails and proprietary attachments please http://bruda.ca/ascii -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.macosx.fink.user Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] X desktop manager availability in 10,7
Hello, I keep monitoring the 10.7 tree (I have a 10.7 virtual machine for the purpose) and I keep noticing that no desktop manager (such as Gnome, KDE, or Xfce) is yet available. I am therefore wondering whether this is a matter of issues with those desktop managers or is simply caused by the fact that nobody has bothered to port them to 10.7. In particular the only thing that keeps me still on 10.6 is the absence of Gnome 2 (preferred) or similar. I am an old Unix hand and I feel much more comfortable with sloppy focus and the other goodies offered by X so I am spending as much time as possible in there. In other words, advice on the matter is much appreciated. In somehow related matter, it is also possible that I am doing something wrong and not see the whole set of packages. Indeed, I recently noticed somebody discussing an issue with kdeedu4-mac on 10.7, yet I have no such a package in my 10.7 tree. I have the following in my fink.conf: Trees: local/main stable/main Distribution: 10.7 SelfUpdateTrees: 10.7 ConfFileCompatVersion: 2 [...] SelfUpdateMethod: rsync Is this complete? Should I be aware of anything else? Many thanks in advance, Stefan -- If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass No HTML emails and proprietary attachments please http://bruda.ca/ascii -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.macosx.fink.user Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] X desktop manager availability in 10,7
On 3/29/12 2:08 PM, Stefan Bruda wrote: Hello, I keep monitoring the 10.7 tree (I have a 10.7 virtual machine for the purpose) and I keep noticing that no desktop manager (such as Gnome, KDE, or Xfce) is yet available. I am therefore wondering whether this is a matter of issues with those desktop managers or is simply caused by the fact that nobody has bothered to port them to 10.7. I'm thinking it's probably the former. In particular the only thing that keeps me still on 10.6 is the absence of Gnome 2 (preferred) or similar. I am an old Unix hand and I feel much more comfortable with sloppy focus and the other goodies offered by X so I am spending as much time as possible in there. In other words, advice on the matter is much appreciated. Check fink list -s gnome. The whole desktop isn't available, but at least some of the components are. In somehow related matter, it is also possible that I am doing something wrong and not see the whole set of packages. Indeed, I recently noticed somebody discussing an issue with kdeedu4-mac on 10.7, yet I have no such a package in my 10.7 tree. That was actually on 10.6, not 10.7. I have the following in my fink.conf: Trees: local/main stable/main Distribution: 10.7 SelfUpdateTrees: 10.7 ConfFileCompatVersion: 2 [...] SelfUpdateMethod: rsync Is this complete? Should I be aware of anything else? Many thanks in advance, Stefan Nope, you're looking at the full available set of packages. -- Alexander Hansen, Ph.D. Fink User Liaison http://finkakh.wordpress.com/2012/02/21/got-job/ -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.macosx.fink.user Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
