Re: [Firebird-devel] Commits visible in our main page.
I agree that it would help to make people aware that something is happening behind the scenes, but I think the content must be short, for example, showing only the last 5 commits (with its dates, and titles trimmed when need). Clicking in a link could send the visitor the the full sourceforge list of commits. []s Carlos http://www.firebirdnews.org FireBase - http://www.FireBase.com.br CVC People, maybe you're going to say that this would be ugly, but at CVC www.firebirdsql.org CVC after the PROJECT NEWS I would like to see information about latest commits, CVC maybe this whole page inside a frame: CVC http://sourceforge.net/p/firebird/code/commit_browser CVC While some readers may feel it's too nerdy, I think it's of utmost CVC importance to show the project is alive. Currently we are like the magma: we CVC are moving but under the surface... then nobody cares and a lot of people CVC think the project stagnated years ago. CVC C. CVC --- CVC Claudio Valderrama C. CVC Consultant, SW developer. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Odp: READ UNCOMMITTED implementation
On Mar 5, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Roman Simakov roman.sima...@gmail.com wrote: 5 марта 2015 г., в 20:26, Jim Starkey j...@jimstarkey.net написал(а): read imaginary» Is it not the same as read uncommited? :) Oh, certainly not! Read imaginary invents whole new record(s) conforming to the search criteria with random numbers/strings for other fields. Read imaginary is what you use when you have an infinite number monkeys, lots of patience, and need a complete copy of Shakespeare free of copyright constraints. -- Roman Simakov -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Commits visible in our main page.
05.03.2015 23:53, Claudio Valderrama C. wrote: People, maybe you're going to say that this would be ugly, but at www.firebirdsql.org after the PROJECT NEWS I would like to see information about latest commits, maybe this whole page inside a frame: http://sourceforge.net/p/firebird/code/commit_browser I'd rather prefer it being at http://firebirdsql.org/#stay-in-touch but you would argue this is not much visible... While some readers may feel it's too nerdy, I think it's of utmost importance to show the project is alive. Currently we are like the magma: we are moving but under the surface... then nobody cares and a lot of people think the project stagnated years ago. The main page shows latest releases dated December 2014. It also mentions fresh driver releases in the news. I doubt the commit log would make our progress any more visible. Dmitry -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
[Firebird-devel] Commits visible in our main page.
People, maybe you're going to say that this would be ugly, but at www.firebirdsql.org after the PROJECT NEWS I would like to see information about latest commits, maybe this whole page inside a frame: http://sourceforge.net/p/firebird/code/commit_browser While some readers may feel it's too nerdy, I think it's of utmost importance to show the project is alive. Currently we are like the magma: we are moving but under the surface... then nobody cares and a lot of people think the project stagnated years ago. C. --- Claudio Valderrama C. Consultant, SW developer. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Commits visible in our main page.
05.03.2015 21:21, Carlos H. Cantu wrote: I think the content must be short, for example, showing only the last 5 commits (with its dates, and titles trimmed when need). May be something like SF statistics XX commits last week could be enough?.. -- WBR, SD. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Commits visible in our main page.
DSMay be something like SF statistics XX commits last week could be enough?.. Looks good too. I think the web designer may decide what fits better the currently layout. []s Carlos http://www.firebirdnews.org FireBase - http://www.FireBase.com.br -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
The IPL license hosted on IBPhoenix was the license originally used, i.e. we hosted the original license that the InterBase code was released with (as Ann and I devised it). If I remember rightly the Inprise license was slightly modified after release. We also hosted the IDPL license because again if I remember rightly, Jim initially used the IDPL for the Vulcan work. IIRC, it was time when Firebird project just didn't have its own web site. Now it has one and can encapsulate its resources to avoid external dependencies. I wasn't arguing about it - just pointing out some historical facts that were valid at some time in the past. Paul -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3 API demo usage with Pascal
Adriano dos Santos Fernandes adrian...@gmail.com писал(а) в своём письме Thu, 05 Mar 2015 17:53:08 +0300: Thank You. Very interesting. Another would like to see will look like on UDR FreePascal. Hi! I just build an example of Firebird 3 API usage with FreePascal. https://github.com/asfernandes/fbstuff/blob/db56fa93850a70c473362296df12a95c7494a7dc/src/pascal/FbApiTest.dpr As said early, working with input/output buffers directly in non-C/C++ is difficult. This requires auxiliary classes. The others things seems ok and easy to use. We need some new functions in the new API, for example, to convert status vectors to strings, but this is not specific to pascal. Adriano -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel -- Simonov Denis -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
I wrote: My recollection is that the IPL was worked out among Paul, me, Dale Fuller, and a few others. The original Mozilla licenses gave ownership rights to Netscape. We changed it to Inprise and its successors. When Firebird launched as an independent entity, we (same crowd, minus Dale) created the IDPL which gave the individual developer ownership rights. For better or for worse, we didn't want any entity, including the not yet created Firebird Foundation, to be able to take the code private or create closed source enterprise versions. Another advantage of the IDPL is that if you write some useful new code - a new compression algorithm for example - you own that code even after applying the IDPL. You can't disallow use under the IDPL, but you can include the code in other projects with other licenses. Me, I want Firebird to be forever free. Jim wanted to be able to contribute code and use elsewhere. We found common ground. Cheers, Ann -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Odp: READ UNCOMMITTED implementation
On Mar 5, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Ann Harrison aharri...@nimbusdb.com wrote: On Mar 5, 2015, at 11:26 AM, liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Hi, It is usefull for testing purposes. Consider monitoring what actually is in some table from other connection or software before some long task has finished. Nothing is in a table until it is committed, so there's nothing to monitor. That may be logically correct, but physically, an uncommitted record is there, at least in Firebird MVCC. So it would be possible, I suppose, to implement read uncommitted, though there is a nast problem that an uncommitted record would mask a committed version, but that's part and parcel of read uncommitted. But hey, why stop there? How about read rolledback, read deleted, read imaginary, and 'read whatever (Monty's default mode for MySQL)? Best regards, Ann -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
On Mar 5, 2015, at 8:38 AM, marius adrian popa map...@gmail.com wrote: Ok understand , What i ask is that new code to be under MPL 2.0 without any changes to the license text like they did in the libreoffice case http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/COPYING.MPL This will simplify the license understanding (no more idpl/ipl license text forks of mpl 1/1.1...) Do we really want the Mozilla Foundation to be the Steward of our license? Cheers, Ann-- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
At 09:16 p.m. 5/03/2015, marius adrian popa wrote: While there can we upgrade the license to mpl2 ? No. The source code we used for Firebird is licensed under MPL v.1.0. *That* version of the source code, *that* version of the MPL. Helen -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Odp: READ UNCOMMITTED implementation
On Mar 5, 2015, at 11:26 AM, liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Hi, It is usefull for testing purposes. Consider monitoring what actually is in some table from other connection or software before some long task has finished. Nothing is in a table until it is committed, so there's nothing to monitor. Best regards, Ann -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
05.03.2015 17:49, Paul Beach wrote: I wasn't arguing about it - just pointing out some historical facts that were valid at some time in the past. So do I. I'm sorry if it looked like an offense. -- WBR, SD. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
05.03.2015 16:09, Dmitry Yemanov wrote: Huh? We are talking about sources (particularly headers), no?.. -- WBR, SD. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
On Mar 5, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Paul Beach pbe...@ibphoenix.com wrote: 05.03.2015 16:13, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: We are talking about sources (particularly headers), no?.. I mean that if you are going to update headers to a new license URL, it would be better if it is official project's site URL, not IBPhoenix one. The IPL license hosted on IBPhoenix was the license originally used, i.e. we hosted the original license that the InterBase code was released with (as Ann and I devised it). If I remember rightly the Inprise license was slightly modified after release. We also hosted the IDPL license because again if I remember rightly, Jim initially used the IDPL for the Vulcan work. My recollection is that the IPL was worked out among Paul, me, Dale Fuller, and a few others. The original Mozilla licenses gave ownership rights to Netscape. We changed it to Inprise and its successors. When Firebird launched as an independent entity, we (same crowd, minus Dale) created the IDPL which gave the individual developer ownership rights. For better or for worse, we didn't want any entity, including the not yet created Firebird Foundation, to be able to take the code private or create closed source enterprise versions. Again, at the time, IBPhoenix had a website based on Netfrastructure and the Firebird Foundation didn't, since it didn't exist. At this point inertia takes hold. When you're working on code, the last thing you think about is updating headers. When Netfrastructure ceased to be supported, IBPhoenix changed its website and the old addresses went away. Cheers, Ann -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
I'm thinking about the Firebird Initial Developer's Public License (based on MPL v1.1) For old headers still with old license we can incoporate them this way https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Re-Basing#What_does_your_license_header_look_like_.3F On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Helen Borrie hele...@tpg.com.au wrote: At 09:16 p.m. 5/03/2015, marius adrian popa wrote: While there can we upgrade the license to mpl2 ? No. The source code we used for Firebird is licensed under MPL v.1.0. *That* version of the source code, *that* version of the MPL. Helen -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
On 05/03/2015 11:57, Leyne, Sean wrote: 05.03.2015 15:19, Leyne, Sean wrote: The fact that Inprise/Borland/embarcadero have not maintained the URL location is not our problem. What's the problem with broken IBPhoenix URL then?.. There is none with changing that -- the IDPL is a 'product' of the project, as such it can be changed. The IPL (Interbase) license is a Inprise product, as such as can't change it. No, you should do the same (change or not change) in both cases. It's not the license owner that matters, but who adopted it for their work. Adriano PS: This subject again -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3 API demo usage with Pascal
On 05/03/2015 12:37, Alex Peshkoff wrote: On 03/05/15 18:23, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: On 05/03/2015 11:53, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: The others things seems ok and easy to use. We need some new functions in the new API, for example, to convert status vectors to strings, but this is not specific to pascal. Also, we have a half new API. To much constants come from legacy API. May be we should keep them in separate file and include in both new and old main h-files? I think new API should have the constants with new names, using the new standard as upper case, and in the IDL file. For example, DPB constants could be listed inside IProvider (the interface who uses DPB). Old file maybe could be generated from it with some name mapping. But this appear to be a lot of work to be done now. Adriano -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3 API demo usage with Pascal
On 03/05/15 18:23, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: On 05/03/2015 11:53, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: The others things seems ok and easy to use. We need some new functions in the new API, for example, to convert status vectors to strings, but this is not specific to pascal. Also, we have a half new API. To much constants come from legacy API. May be we should keep them in separate file and include in both new and old main h-files? -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
05.03.2015 16:13, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: We are talking about sources (particularly headers), no?.. I mean that if you are going to update headers to a new license URL, it would be better if it is official project's site URL, not IBPhoenix one. -- WBR, SD. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Firebird 3 API demo usage with Pascal
On 05/03/2015 11:53, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote: The others things seems ok and easy to use. We need some new functions in the new API, for example, to convert status vectors to strings, but this is not specific to pascal. Also, we have a half new API. To much constants come from legacy API. Adriano -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
[Firebird-devel] Odp: READ UNCOMMITTED implementation
Hi, It is usefull for testing purposes. Consider monitoring what actually is in some table from other connection or software before some long task has finished. Regards, Karol Bieniaszewski - Reply message - Od: Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl Do: For discussion among Firebird Developers firebird-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Temat: [Firebird-devel] READ UNCOMMITTED implementation Data: śr., mar 4, 2015 08:38 What is the use case for it? As far as I recall the sql standard doesn't require it (and maybe even discourages it) but has it include because some systems already had it. Mark - Reply message - Van: marius adrian popa map...@gmail.com Aan: For discussion among Firebird Developers firebird-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Onderwerp: [Firebird-devel] READ UNCOMMITTED implementation Datum: wo, mrt. 4, 2015 08:12 Seems that we need F111-01 implemented https://github.com/rowland/fb/issues/42 http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/sql-conformance/-- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
05.03.2015 16:13, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: We are talking about sources (particularly headers), no?.. I mean that if you are going to update headers to a new license URL, it would be better if it is official project's site URL, not IBPhoenix one. The IPL license hosted on IBPhoenix was the license originally used, i.e. we hosted the original license that the InterBase code was released with (as Ann and I devised it). If I remember rightly the Inprise license was slightly modified after release. We also hosted the IDPL license because again if I remember rightly, Jim initially used the IDPL for the Vulcan work. Paul -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
05.03.2015 17:07, Paul Beach wrote: The IPL license hosted on IBPhoenix was the license originally used, i.e. we hosted the original license that the InterBase code was released with (as Ann and I devised it). If I remember rightly the Inprise license was slightly modified after release. We also hosted the IDPL license because again if I remember rightly, Jim initially used the IDPL for the Vulcan work. IIRC, it was time when Firebird project just didn't have its own web site. Now it has one and can encapsulate its resources to avoid external dependencies. -- WBR, SD. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Odp: READ UNCOMMITTED implementation
5 марта 2015 г., в 20:26, Jim Starkey j...@jimstarkey.net написал(а): read imaginary» Is it not the same as read uncommited? :) -- Roman Simakov -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
Ok understand , What i ask is that new code to be under MPL 2.0 without any changes to the license text like they did in the libreoffice case http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/COPYING.MPL This will simplify the license understanding (no more idpl/ipl license text forks of mpl 1/1.1...) https://www.mozilla.org/MPL/2.0/FAQ.html#making-my-own-license On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Helen Borrie hele...@tpg.com.au wrote: At 09:16 p.m. 5/03/2015, marius adrian popa wrote: While there can we upgrade the license to mpl2 ? No. The source code we used for Firebird is licensed under MPL v.1.0. *That* version of the source code, *that* version of the MPL. Helen -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
05.03.2015 15:38, marius adrian popa wrote: Ok understand, what i ask is that new code to be under MPL 2.0 What is our benefit? This will simplify the license understanding Nope, it will only complicate understanding. Old modules have to remain IPLed/IDPLed, so actually we'll be claiming three licenses instead of two. Dmitry -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
I don't think you can change the license for modules from individuals without their permission. Vulcan modules explicitly forbid a change of license. Jim Starkey On Mar 5, 2015, at 4:16 AM, marius adrian popa map...@gmail.com wrote: While there can we upgrade the license to mpl2 ? http://oss-watch.ac.uk/resources/mpl2 https://www.mozilla.org/MPL/2.0/ to be in sync with libreoffice On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Paul Beach pbe...@ibphoenix.com wrote: http://www.ibphoenix.com/main.nfs?a=ibphoenixpage=ibp_idpl. is pointing to nothing. We need to update the files in the repository to point to the right location of the license or please suggest an alternative. I think that only FB v3 matters. ipl - http://www.ibphoenix.com/about/firebird/ipl idpl - http://www.ibphoenix.com/about/firebird/idpl Regards Paul -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
Hi, http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/licensing/ Regards, Alexey People, http://www.ibphoenix.com/main.nfs?a=ibphoenixpage=ibp_idpl. is pointing to nothing. We need to update the files in the repository to point to the right location of the license or please suggest an alternative. I think that only FB v3 matters. C. --- Claudio Valderrama C. Consultant, SW developer. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
Plese do and fix the urls While there please replace the inprise.com with firebirdsql.org license location Absolutely not!!! The original license must remain untouched, we did not create the original files, we cannot change the license statement. The fact that Inprise/Borland/embarcadero have not maintained the URL location is not our problem. Sean -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
[Firebird-devel] Firebird 3 API demo usage with Pascal
Hi! I just build an example of Firebird 3 API usage with FreePascal. https://github.com/asfernandes/fbstuff/blob/db56fa93850a70c473362296df12a95c7494a7dc/src/pascal/FbApiTest.dpr As said early, working with input/output buffers directly in non-C/C++ is difficult. This requires auxiliary classes. The others things seems ok and easy to use. We need some new functions in the new API, for example, to convert status vectors to strings, but this is not specific to pascal. Adriano -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
05.03.2015 15:19, Leyne, Sean wrote: The fact that Inprise/Borland/embarcadero have not maintained the URL location is not our problem. What's the problem with broken IBPhoenix URL then?.. There is none with changing that -- the IDPL is a 'product' of the project, as such it can be changed. The IPL (Interbase) license is a Inprise product, as such as can't change it. Sean -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
05.03.2015 15:57, Leyne, Sean wrote: There is none with changing that -- the IDPL is a 'product' of the project, as such it can be changed. I just wonder why this product is on third-party site instead of firebirdsql.org. -- WBR, SD. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
Re: [Firebird-devel] Time to update our headers.
05.03.2015 18:03, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote: I just wonder why this product is on third-party site instead of firebirdsql.org. Huh? http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/initial-developer-s-public-license-version-1-0 Dmitry -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ Firebird-Devel mailing list, web interface at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel
