[Fis] dark matter

2012-12-29 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Gordana has said:


Information and Energy/Matter

  What can we hope for from studies of information related to energy/matter
(as it appears for us in space/time)? Information is a concept known for
its ambiguity in both common, everyday use and in its specific technical
applications throughout different fields of research and technology.
However, most people are unaware that matter/energy today is also a concept
surrounded by a disquieting uncertainty. What for Democritus were building
blocks of the whole universe appear today to constitute only 4% of its
observed content. (NASA 2012) [1] The rest is labeled “dark matter”
(conjectured to explain gravitational effects otherwise unaccounted for)
and “dark energy” (introduced to account for the expansion of the
universe). We do not know what “dark matter” and “dark energy” actually
are. This indicates that our present understanding of the structure of the
physical world needs re-examination. [...]


Information and Energy/Matter
Gordana Dodig Crnkovic

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I would like to inquire whether any fis'rs might react to the following
notion:

Dark matter is postulated because the amount of matter detectable in
galaxies would be insufficient alone to explain how they hold together
given the value of the gravitational constant.

However, the information we glean from galaxies represents their condition
as it was a very long time ago, in an earlier universe.

Is it not possible to resolve this puzzle less radically than by inventing
dark matter by supposing that the gravitational constant has not been
constant but has instead been changing, and was much stronger in the past,
which is when we detect these distant clusters of matter?  Perhaps G as
been scaled to the rate of expansion of space?  Perhaps the rate of
expansion was greater then than now, even with current acceleration?

STAN
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Re: [Fis] Dark Matter (R.Ulanowicz)

2012-12-29 Thread PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ


- Mensaje original -
De: Robert Ulanowicz u...@umces.edu
Fecha: Sábado, 29 de Diciembre de 2012, 4:26 pm
 **
 
 Stan,
 
 We know that the Fine-Structure Constant, alpha, has changed 
 over the
 course of the universe
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant. I 
 wrote in my
 last book how I suspect others have evolved as well.
 
 What is needed is a good dimensional analysis. Unfortunately,
 dimensional analysis seems foreign to physicists. Otherwise, they
 wouldn't be making some of the incredible claims that are 
 abroad! :)
 
 Cheers,
 Bob
 
 Quoting Stanley N Salthe ssal...@binghamton.edu:
 
  Gordana has said:
 
 
  Information and Energy/Matter
 
    What can we hope for from studies of information 
 related to energy/matter
  (as it appears for us in space/time)? Information is a concept 
 known for
  its ambiguity in both common, everyday use and in its specific 
 technical applications throughout different fields of research 
 and technology.
  However, most people are unaware that matter/energy today is 
 also a concept
  surrounded by a disquieting uncertainty. What for Democritus 
 were building
  blocks of the whole universe appear today to constitute only 
 4% of its
  observed content. (NASA 2012) [1] The rest is labeled dark matter
  (conjectured to explain gravitational effects otherwise 
 unaccounted for)
  and dark energy (introduced to account for the expansion of the
  universe). We do not know what dark matter and dark energy 
 actually are. This indicates that our present understanding of 
 the structure of the
  physical world needs re-examination. [...]
 
 
  Information and Energy/Matter
  Gordana Dodig Crnkovic
 
  Information 2012, 3(4), 751-755;
  http://unam.us4.list-
 manage2.com/track/click?u=0eb0ac9b4e8565f2967a8304bid=ae24f18d1ee=d38efa683e
 
  Special Issue Information and Energy/Matter
 
  http://unam.us4.list-
 manage.com/track/click?u=0eb0ac9b4e8565f2967a8304bid=ea193b9747e=d38efa683e
  See it on Scoop.it (
  http://unam.us4.list-
 manage.com/track/click?u=0eb0ac9b4e8565f2967a8304bid=cdfa764e97e=d38efa683e)
  , via Papers (
  http://unam.us4.list-
 manage.com/track/click?u=0eb0ac9b4e8565f2967a8304bid=e23b9e2cd9e=d38efa683e
  )
 
 
  I would like to inquire whether any fis'rs might react to the 
 following notion:
 
  Dark matter is postulated because the amount of matter 
 detectable in
  galaxies would be insufficient alone to explain how they hold 
 together given the value of the gravitational constant.
 
  However, the information we glean from galaxies represents 
 their condition
  as it was a very long time ago, in an earlier universe.
 
  Is it not possible to resolve this puzzle less radically than 
 by inventing
  dark matter by supposing that the gravitational constant has 
 not been
  constant but has instead been changing, and was much stronger 
 in the past,
  which is when we detect these distant clusters of 
 matter?  Perhaps G as
  been scaled to the rate of expansion of space?  Perhaps 
 the rate of
  expansion was greater then than now, even with current acceleration?
 
  STAN

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