Re: [Flashcoders] RE: Pricing a Freelance Project
I do not do fixed bid projects. I always do TM NET 15/30, and don't have an issue selling my work that way. If you want me to do a fixed bid project, I'm bidding on exactly what the scope is right now. If there is any change in scope, production will stop as I assess the impact such a change will have on the schedule (my assessment is billable), and take time to modify the contract to reflect the change in scope and cost, and you will need to review and approve these changes in writing, all of which take time spent not developing and puts your deadline in jeopardy. However, with TM, I get paid for the work I do, and you have full flexibility in making as many changes as you like, with the knowledge that development never stops, though the deadline may be affected by your changes. Something to that effect. Kerry Thompson wrote: Steven Sacks wrote: You need to charge for time spent babysitting the client. That's billable time. Absolutely true, with one kicker: a fixed bid. A lot of clients want to shift the risk to you, the freelancer, so they ask for a fixed-price bid rather than an hourly rate. My advice is to be very, very careful with these. My experience shows that clients rarely, if ever, know just what they need. They will give you an idea, but there will inevitably be extras that simply must be done. Initial estimates of the amount of work needed are almost always off by a factor of at least two, often up to a factor of 10. If you underbid one of these contracts, you could spend a year to earn $20,000. Be up front with the client in this case. You are bidding on the project as it is currently designed. Changes and additions will be billed extra. You must do this to survive, or your client will bury you with feature creep. Be positive about it, of course. When they request an additional feature, say Sure, we can do that. It will cost you $4,000 and add two weeks to the schedule. I'll get started on it just as soon as I get an amendment to the contract. Also, on a fixed-bid contract, get at least 25% up front. If you bill only on milestones, can you live off your savings until they approve the prototype, or the alpha? I can't--I'm lucky that my wife has a well-paying job. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] RE: Pricing a Freelance Project
Hi Steven, excuse my ignorance, but as a non native English person what is TM NET 15/30? Couldn't find it on google. regards, Hans On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Steven Sacks flash...@stevensacks.netwrote: I do not do fixed bid projects. I always do TM NET 15/30, and don't have an issue selling my work that way. If you want me to do a fixed bid project, I'm bidding on exactly what the scope is right now. If there is any change in scope, production will stop as I assess the impact such a change will have on the schedule (my assessment is billable), and take time to modify the contract to reflect the change in scope and cost, and you will need to review and approve these changes in writing, all of which take time spent not developing and puts your deadline in jeopardy. However, with TM, I get paid for the work I do, and you have full flexibility in making as many changes as you like, with the knowledge that development never stops, though the deadline may be affected by your changes. Something to that effect. Kerry Thompson wrote: Steven Sacks wrote: You need to charge for time spent babysitting the client. That's billable time. Absolutely true, with one kicker: a fixed bid. A lot of clients want to shift the risk to you, the freelancer, so they ask for a fixed-price bid rather than an hourly rate. My advice is to be very, very careful with these. My experience shows that clients rarely, if ever, know just what they need. They will give you an idea, but there will inevitably be extras that simply must be done. Initial estimates of the amount of work needed are almost always off by a factor of at least two, often up to a factor of 10. If you underbid one of these contracts, you could spend a year to earn $20,000. Be up front with the client in this case. You are bidding on the project as it is currently designed. Changes and additions will be billed extra. You must do this to survive, or your client will bury you with feature creep. Be positive about it, of course. When they request an additional feature, say Sure, we can do that. It will cost you $4,000 and add two weeks to the schedule. I'll get started on it just as soon as I get an amendment to the contract. Also, on a fixed-bid contract, get at least 25% up front. If you bill only on milestones, can you live off your savings until they approve the prototype, or the alpha? I can't--I'm lucky that my wife has a well-paying job. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] RE: Pricing a Freelance Project
Hi All, Thanks for all the great advice. Seems like everyone is suggesting around the £40-60 mark if quoting per hour. But if quoting a fixed amount then it should be considerably more. Cheers! 2009/10/12 Hans Wichman j.c.wich...@objectpainters.com Hi Steven, excuse my ignorance, but as a non native English person what is TM NET 15/30? Couldn't find it on google. regards, Hans On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Steven Sacks flash...@stevensacks.net wrote: I do not do fixed bid projects. I always do TM NET 15/30, and don't have an issue selling my work that way. If you want me to do a fixed bid project, I'm bidding on exactly what the scope is right now. If there is any change in scope, production will stop as I assess the impact such a change will have on the schedule (my assessment is billable), and take time to modify the contract to reflect the change in scope and cost, and you will need to review and approve these changes in writing, all of which take time spent not developing and puts your deadline in jeopardy. However, with TM, I get paid for the work I do, and you have full flexibility in making as many changes as you like, with the knowledge that development never stops, though the deadline may be affected by your changes. Something to that effect. Kerry Thompson wrote: Steven Sacks wrote: You need to charge for time spent babysitting the client. That's billable time. Absolutely true, with one kicker: a fixed bid. A lot of clients want to shift the risk to you, the freelancer, so they ask for a fixed-price bid rather than an hourly rate. My advice is to be very, very careful with these. My experience shows that clients rarely, if ever, know just what they need. They will give you an idea, but there will inevitably be extras that simply must be done. Initial estimates of the amount of work needed are almost always off by a factor of at least two, often up to a factor of 10. If you underbid one of these contracts, you could spend a year to earn $20,000. Be up front with the client in this case. You are bidding on the project as it is currently designed. Changes and additions will be billed extra. You must do this to survive, or your client will bury you with feature creep. Be positive about it, of course. When they request an additional feature, say Sure, we can do that. It will cost you $4,000 and add two weeks to the schedule. I'll get started on it just as soon as I get an amendment to the contract. Also, on a fixed-bid contract, get at least 25% up front. If you bill only on milestones, can you live off your savings until they approve the prototype, or the alpha? I can't--I'm lucky that my wife has a well-paying job. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Mike Cann http://www.mikecann.co.uk/ http://www.artificialgames.co.uk/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] RE: Pricing a Freelance Project
I heared you could take your estimate and multiply it by Math.PI: that's the correct estimate. estimates of the amount of work needed are almost always off by a factor of ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] RE: Pricing a Freelance Project
I'm also curious about this term. 2009/10/12 Hans Wichman j.c.wich...@objectpainters.com Hi Steven, excuse my ignorance, but as a non native English person what is TM NET 15/30? Couldn't find it on google. regards, Hans On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Steven Sacks flash...@stevensacks.net wrote: I do not do fixed bid projects. I always do TM NET 15/30, and don't have an issue selling my work that way. If you want me to do a fixed bid project, I'm bidding on exactly what the scope is right now. If there is any change in scope, production will stop as I assess the impact such a change will have on the schedule (my assessment is billable), and take time to modify the contract to reflect the change in scope and cost, and you will need to review and approve these changes in writing, all of which take time spent not developing and puts your deadline in jeopardy. However, with TM, I get paid for the work I do, and you have full flexibility in making as many changes as you like, with the knowledge that development never stops, though the deadline may be affected by your changes. Something to that effect. Kerry Thompson wrote: Steven Sacks wrote: You need to charge for time spent babysitting the client. That's billable time. Absolutely true, with one kicker: a fixed bid. A lot of clients want to shift the risk to you, the freelancer, so they ask for a fixed-price bid rather than an hourly rate. My advice is to be very, very careful with these. My experience shows that clients rarely, if ever, know just what they need. They will give you an idea, but there will inevitably be extras that simply must be done. Initial estimates of the amount of work needed are almost always off by a factor of at least two, often up to a factor of 10. If you underbid one of these contracts, you could spend a year to earn $20,000. Be up front with the client in this case. You are bidding on the project as it is currently designed. Changes and additions will be billed extra. You must do this to survive, or your client will bury you with feature creep. Be positive about it, of course. When they request an additional feature, say Sure, we can do that. It will cost you $4,000 and add two weeks to the schedule. I'll get started on it just as soon as I get an amendment to the contract. Also, on a fixed-bid contract, get at least 25% up front. If you bill only on milestones, can you live off your savings until they approve the prototype, or the alpha? I can't--I'm lucky that my wife has a well-paying job. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] RE: Pricing a Freelance Project
I think it's time and materials and he's giving them 15 or 30 days to pay. Karl Sent from losPhone On Oct 12, 2009, at 6:50 AM, Julio Protzek julioprot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm also curious about this term. 2009/10/12 Hans Wichman j.c.wich...@objectpainters.com Hi Steven, excuse my ignorance, but as a non native English person what is TM NET 15/30? Couldn't find it on google. regards, Hans On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Steven Sacks flash...@stevensacks.net wrote: I do not do fixed bid projects. I always do TM NET 15/30, and don't have an issue selling my work that way. If you want me to do a fixed bid project, I'm bidding on exactly what the scope is right now. If there is any change in scope, production will stop as I assess the impact such a change will have on the schedule (my assessment is billable), and take time to modify the contract to reflect the change in scope and cost, and you will need to review and approve these changes in writing, all of which take time spent not developing and puts your deadline in jeopardy. However, with TM, I get paid for the work I do, and you have full flexibility in making as many changes as you like, with the knowledge that development never stops, though the deadline may be affected by your changes. Something to that effect. Kerry Thompson wrote: Steven Sacks wrote: You need to charge for time spent babysitting the client. That's billable time. Absolutely true, with one kicker: a fixed bid. A lot of clients want to shift the risk to you, the freelancer, so they ask for a fixed- price bid rather than an hourly rate. My advice is to be very, very careful with these. My experience shows that clients rarely, if ever, know just what they need. They will give you an idea, but there will inevitably be extras that simply must be done. Initial estimates of the amount of work needed are almost always off by a factor of at least two, often up to a factor of 10. If you underbid one of these contracts, you could spend a year to earn $20,000. Be up front with the client in this case. You are bidding on the project as it is currently designed. Changes and additions will be billed extra. You must do this to survive, or your client will bury you with feature creep. Be positive about it, of course. When they request an additional feature, say Sure, we can do that. It will cost you $4,000 and add two weeks to the schedule. I'll get started on it just as soon as I get an amendment to the contract. Also, on a fixed-bid contract, get at least 25% up front. If you bill only on milestones, can you live off your savings until they approve the prototype, or the alpha? I can't--I'm lucky that my wife has a well-paying job. Cordially, Kerry Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] image upload from flex to .net
Hi list, I need to upload an image from flex to .net. That in addition to a lot of other stuff that I need to do to it. I'd like to consolidate all those operations including the upload into some kind of remoting gateway. My question is: - is remoting a good option for uploading an image in this scenario? - which remoting gateway for .net is a good option? tia, Hans ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Re: image upload from flex to .net
ps i'm leaning toward weborb btw On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Hans Wichman j.c.wich...@objectpainters.com wrote: Hi list, I need to upload an image from flex to .net. That in addition to a lot of other stuff that I need to do to it. I'd like to consolidate all those operations including the upload into some kind of remoting gateway. My question is: - is remoting a good option for uploading an image in this scenario? - which remoting gateway for .net is a good option? tia, Hans ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] how to set DataGridColumn textAlign
I'm trying to set the textAlign of a column in the DataGrid component. There are examples of how to do this in Flex, but the required methods/properties seem to be missing from fl...DataGridColumn. Thanks! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Best way to find a REALLY specialized flash/actionscript developer?
Hey everyone - this is my first post to this list (I've been part of the list for several years knowing 1 day I'd need to learn something from everyone here) and I apologize if this is the wrong place to be asking a question like this. - If anyone knows of a place where I can better ask a question/find someone like this I'd be forever grateful? - As a developer of 15+ years myself (focused primarily on Cold Fusion and MSSQL) I often try to do things myself but I think at this point I MAY be in a tad over my head and am seeking some super-nerds (like myself) that are REALLY good with ActionScript2/3 and are familiar with Video Players (specifically JWPlayer by LongTail Video). I have a need to integrate code from: http://help.acudeo.com/AcudeoComponent_AS2/Acudeo_Component_Integration_Guide_for_ActionScript_2.htm into the Longtail Video Player (JW Player) and then drive that content through my Wordpress blog - so someone that knows how to work with Wordpress (programmatically) would be a huge plus as well as there are some things we're doing on that end that allow easy posting of videos to our blog and then throws our player experience around it. Any idea of where I might find someone that could fill a role like this? * this is very high profile work in association with some of the biggest celebrities in the music business so it's imperative that communication is done right so I prefer not to completely outsource this to folks I can't easily (verbally) communicate as needed. Thanks, Skip ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] totally lost figuring out AS3 JSON Class
I've been using JSON forever with AS2. It's a single as class in org.JSON. I've downloaded the as3 core library from JSON.org. It's 283 files, and there's no explanation for what to do. The main JSON class is in adobe.serialization.json, which seems to suggest that this is an adobe class. I think this is for Flex, not Flash. I would be very grateful for any help. Thanks! -And ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] totally lost figuring out AS3 JSON Class
It's AS3, so not just Flex specific. There's an example here: http://code.google.com/p/as3corelib/source/browse/trunk/examples/JSONExample/JSONExample.mxml The sample uses MXML, but not for the json part, only for loading the data (using HTTPService). So basically this is you're after: import com.adobe.serialization.json.JSON; var arr:Array = JSON.decode(rawData) as Array; Where rawData is the loaded JSON data. regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Andrew Sinning and...@learningware.com To: Flash Coders flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 12:27 AM Subject: [Flashcoders] totally lost figuring out AS3 JSON Class I've been using JSON forever with AS2. It's a single as class in org.JSON. I've downloaded the as3 core library from JSON.org. It's 283 files, and there's no explanation for what to do. The main JSON class is in adobe.serialization.json, which seems to suggest that this is an adobe class. I think this is for Flex, not Flash. I would be very grateful for any help. Thanks! -And ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] totally lost figuring out AS3 JSON Class
I don't have com.adobe.serialization.json in my install of Flash. So, I just move the com folder from the as3corelib into my global classpath and then I can use any of the Flex classes? Muzak wrote: It's AS3, so not just Flex specific. There's an example here: http://code.google.com/p/as3corelib/source/browse/trunk/examples/JSONExample/JSONExample.mxml The sample uses MXML, but not for the json part, only for loading the data (using HTTPService). So basically this is you're after: import com.adobe.serialization.json.JSON; var arr:Array = JSON.decode(rawData) as Array; Where rawData is the loaded JSON data. regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Andrew Sinning and...@learningware.com To: Flash Coders flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 12:27 AM Subject: [Flashcoders] totally lost figuring out AS3 JSON Class I've been using JSON forever with AS2. It's a single as class in org.JSON. I've downloaded the as3 core library from JSON.org. It's 283 files, and there's no explanation for what to do. The main JSON class is in adobe.serialization.json, which seems to suggest that this is an adobe class. I think this is for Flex, not Flash. I would be very grateful for any help. Thanks! -And ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Best way to find a REALLY specialized flash/actionscript developer?
charles i have a guy that can do it, he's not cheap but he's fast. shoot me an email if you're interested. jared at jared stanley dotcom On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Charles Skip Norton cnor...@centralnervous.com wrote: Hey everyone - this is my first post to this list (I've been part of the list for several years knowing 1 day I'd need to learn something from everyone here) and I apologize if this is the wrong place to be asking a question like this. - If anyone knows of a place where I can better ask a question/find someone like this I'd be forever grateful? - As a developer of 15+ years myself (focused primarily on Cold Fusion and MSSQL) I often try to do things myself but I think at this point I MAY be in a tad over my head and am seeking some super-nerds (like myself) that are REALLY good with ActionScript2/3 and are familiar with Video Players (specifically JWPlayer by LongTail Video). I have a need to integrate code from: http://help.acudeo.com/AcudeoComponent_AS2/Acudeo_Component_Integration_Guide_for_ActionScript_2.htm into the Longtail Video Player (JW Player) and then drive that content through my Wordpress blog - so someone that knows how to work with Wordpress (programmatically) would be a huge plus as well as there are some things we're doing on that end that allow easy posting of videos to our blog and then throws our player experience around it. Any idea of where I might find someone that could fill a role like this? * this is very high profile work in association with some of the biggest celebrities in the music business so it's imperative that communication is done right so I prefer not to completely outsource this to folks I can't easily (verbally) communicate as needed. Thanks, Skip ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] totally lost figuring out AS3 JSON Class
AFAIK, there are no Flex specific classes in the AS3CoreLib library, it's an ActionScript 3 library (hence the name). But yes, you have to make sure it's in the class path to be able to use it, just like any other classes. You can use the .as source files (com folder) or the .swc, whichever you prefer. Did you get the library from googlecode? http://code.google.com/p/as3corelib/downloads/list - Original Message - From: Andrew Sinning and...@learningware.com To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] totally lost figuring out AS3 JSON Class I don't have com.adobe.serialization.json in my install of Flash. So, I just move the com folder from the as3corelib into my global classpath and then I can use any of the Flex classes? Muzak wrote: It's AS3, so not just Flex specific. There's an example here: http://code.google.com/p/as3corelib/source/browse/trunk/examples/JSONExample/JSONExample.mxml ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] totally lost figuring out AS3 JSON Class
Thanks Muzak. Yeah, I got the JSON library from the same place. Muzak wrote: AFAIK, there are no Flex specific classes in the AS3CoreLib library, it's an ActionScript 3 library (hence the name). But yes, you have to make sure it's in the class path to be able to use it, just like any other classes. You can use the .as source files (com folder) or the .swc, whichever you prefer. Did you get the library from googlecode? http://code.google.com/p/as3corelib/downloads/list - Original Message - From: Andrew Sinning and...@learningware.com To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] totally lost figuring out AS3 JSON Class I don't have com.adobe.serialization.json in my install of Flash. So, I just move the com folder from the as3corelib into my global classpath and then I can use any of the Flex classes? Muzak wrote: It's AS3, so not just Flex specific. There's an example here: http://code.google.com/p/as3corelib/source/browse/trunk/examples/JSONExample/JSONExample.mxml ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
