RE: [Flashcoders] [a little OT] vp6 plugin for squeeze

2006-02-26 Thread Hairy Dog Digital

 i've downloaded the trial of squeeze 4.3, and I'm trying to 
 compress with the vp6 coded.
 I have a fast pc and the compression times are tremendously 
 slow. At least 2 minutes to compress 20 seconds :( I tried to 
 compress a three minutes hires mpeg2, put a stupid 
 deinterlace on it and after 10 minutes I was at 6% :((
 
 Is this because the trial contains a beta or also the paid 
 version has this compression times?

Software compression in general is slow, and the more complex the
compression algorithm, the slower it gets. I can't speak for the breadth of
compression products, but with Squeeze it's also been my experience the
longer you have it running and compressing clips, the slower it gets (memory
leaks?). 

When I've got a number of clips to compress (on Win XP Pro), I disconnect
the workstation from the network, do a clean boot with all non-critical
system startups (eg, antivirus, VNC, quicktime/adobe speed loaders)
disabled, then set everything up to start compressing before I turn off the
lights and leave. The next morning it's either Christmas bonanzo or a lump
of coal :o

...Rob


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Re: [Flashcoders] [a little OT] vp6 plugin for squeeze

2006-02-26 Thread Troy Rollins


On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Hairy Dog Digital wrote:


The next morning it's either Christmas bonanzo or a lump
of coal :o


Exactly. Last week, my compression system worked for 12 hours to  
compress 8 minutes of video on a quad G5 with 4 gigs of Ram. When it  
was finished, I found Squeeze had forgotten to insert my cuepoints.  
Making the whole thing a lump of coal. Only so many times you can  
waste 12 hours of compression before you decide the tool is a piece  
of crap.


Add to that their ridiculously poor support, and Squeeze is  
definitely crap. It does not belong in any professional production  
pipeline. For a while, I thought it did. It used to be OK, but every  
time they release and upgrade, it just gets worse and worse.


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Troy
RPSystems, Ltd.
http://www.rpsystems.net


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[Flashcoders] [a little OT] vp6 plugin for squeeze

2006-02-25 Thread Alfonso Florio

Maybe it's a little OT...

i've downloaded the trial of squeeze 4.3, and I'm trying to compress 
with the vp6 coded.
I have a fast pc and the compression times are tremendously slow. At 
least 2 minutes to compress 20 seconds :(
I tried to compress a three minutes hires mpeg2, put a stupid 
deinterlace on it and after 10 minutes I was at 6% :((


Is this because the trial contains a beta or also the paid version 
has this compression times?


I love the squeeze interface, but if vp6 encoding is so slow this 
tool is pretty useless.


I will have to use the on2 flix pro, the interface is terrible, but 
encoding is near 1:1


thanks for your comments.

Alfonso Florio

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Re: [Flashcoders] [a little OT] vp6 plugin for squeeze

2006-02-25 Thread JesterXL
When I would encode Sorenson 3 for Quicktime, I'd start it Friday night, and 
when arriving back from the club at 5am, I'd pop in the office to see how 
the compression was going on a 40 second clip at 640x480.

Compression's just a slow business, bro.  Those who do it professionally use 
hardware instead of software for better speed, and overall better results. 
This is also why vp6 is not in Flash Media Server 2 for real-time encoding, 
hehe!

Close all programs, start the compression, minimize it, and go do something 
else.

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From: Alfonso Florio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 8:28 PM
Subject: [Flashcoders] [a little OT] vp6 plugin for squeeze


Maybe it's a little OT...

i've downloaded the trial of squeeze 4.3, and I'm trying to compress
with the vp6 coded.
I have a fast pc and the compression times are tremendously slow. At
least 2 minutes to compress 20 seconds :(
I tried to compress a three minutes hires mpeg2, put a stupid
deinterlace on it and after 10 minutes I was at 6% :((

Is this because the trial contains a beta or also the paid version
has this compression times?

I love the squeeze interface, but if vp6 encoding is so slow this
tool is pretty useless.

I will have to use the on2 flix pro, the interface is terrible, but
encoding is near 1:1

thanks for your comments.

Alfonso Florio

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Re: [Flashcoders] [a little OT] vp6 plugin for squeeze

2006-02-25 Thread Troy Rollins


On Feb 25, 2006, at 8:28 PM, Alfonso Florio wrote:

Is this because the trial contains a beta or also the paid version  
has this compression times?


I love the squeeze interface, but if vp6 encoding is so slow this  
tool is pretty useless.


I will have to use the on2 flix pro, the interface is terrible, but  
encoding is near 1:1


On2 Pro is pretty slow in any place, but Squeeze is a pig. The more  
you use it, the worse you will realize it is. The fact is, there  
isn't a decent compression tool available right now for encoding to  
On2 Pro. Even Flix is rather poorly designed, and doesn't offer the  
right features (no cuepoints, for instance.) My recent project, I had  
to revert to the Flash encoder and bump up the bitrate.


I'd be happy to pay for a decent compression tool which could make  
full and proper use of that codec.


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Troy
RPSystems, Ltd.
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