Re: [Flashcoders] Any good 3rd party penetration numbers for v8 yet?
The most recent NPD audit was performed mid-December, and so I'd expect results up on the website pretty soon. Be sure to announce when you have solid numbers available, because I can use them not only for my day job, but also for lots of contracts. A lot of people are still nervous about v8 being "new" (not that 4 months old is "new" in this industry), and are afraid of extra dialogs and whatnot, so I get stuck back in v7 even though I can demonstrate that their app/site would perform substantially better compiled for 8. ryanm ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Any good 3rd party penetration numbers for v8 yet?
ryanm wrote: Does anyone have any references to 3rd party Flash 8 player penetration numbers? I have some execs asking me if it's safe to use v8 yet, and they're looking for numbers in the 70%-80% range. Of course they'll doubt numbers from Adobemedia, so 3rd party numbers would be better. Well, FP8 is safe to use, or else sites wouldn't be using it, but I'd be surprised if it was up above 70% general consumer viewability yet... in the past it has taken about twelve months to hit 80% on the quarterly NPD consumer audits, and FP8 went public in Sept05. The most recent NPD audit was performed mid-December, and so I'd expect results up on the website pretty soon. I've seen scattered data about significantly higher download requests this version, and we're now tracking successful completed installations (via a server ping at plugin startup), at a rate of 4-5 million a day, but I haven't seen any type of stats published yet, just scattered exec comments in various interviews. (I wish there was a way to search markup on the web, so we could look for that CLSID/CODEBASE line and build a profile of which sites have already moved up, but I haven't been able to find a way to search WWW markup yet...?) I know the situation looks real good, even though I'm not quite sure of the details yet myself, if that vague corroboration is of any use when you talk with your own folks there ;-) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Any good 3rd party penetration numbers for v8 yet?
I dont have any numbers, but have you thought about using the express install feature? then maybe you wouldnt have to wait for the penetration numbers. Heh... did I mention that these are executives that are asking? They don't want to make anyone click "yes", they just want it to work. Given that attitude by many companies, it's pretty amazing that Flash gets as much penetration as they do. Apparently people play a lot of games and look at a lot of independant sites, and the corporate penetration is just a useful side effect. ryanm ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Any good 3rd party penetration numbers for v8 yet?
I dont have any numbers, but have you thought about using the express install feature? then maybe you wouldnt have to wait for the penetration numbers. On 1/6/06, ryanm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone have any references to 3rd party Flash 8 player > penetration > numbers? I have some execs asking me if it's safe to use v8 yet, and > they're > looking for numbers in the 70%-80% range. Of course they'll doubt numbers > from Adobemedia, so 3rd party numbers would be better. > > ryanm > > ___ > Flashcoders mailing list > Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com > http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders > ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Any good 3rd party penetration numbers for v8 yet?
Does anyone have any references to 3rd party Flash 8 player penetration numbers? I have some execs asking me if it's safe to use v8 yet, and they're looking for numbers in the 70%-80% range. Of course they'll doubt numbers from Adobemedia, so 3rd party numbers would be better. ryanm ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
