[Flashcoders] Flash / Java Communication with ExternalInterface
Hi All, we're at a point in a project where we need good communication between Flash and Java. ATM we are using SWT Flash and it's FSCommand handling. I would like to go a bit further to be able to send complex objects via ExternalInterface. I know there is Javaflash (HYPERLINK http://www.osflash.org/javaflash/http://www.osflash.org/javaflash/) out there but the official website is so slow and it seems to be still in beta. Basically, we are using Flash as GUI for a Java backend. We'll need to send back and forth some complex objects. We are currently exploring the possiblity of using XML to send values. What solution would be the best ? Meaning which one gets the fastest response, stability and extendability. Are there any other options or howto's than FSCommand ? any link or tips are welcome. Or is Javaflash stable enough for use in a commercial App ? Thanks in advance ! Alain No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/785 - Release Date: 2007-05-02 14:16 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash / Java Communication with ExternalInterface
On 5/3/07, Alain Rousseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, we're at a point in a project where we need good communication between Flash and Java. ATM we are using SWT Flash and it's FSCommand handling. I would like to go a bit further to be able to send complex objects via ExternalInterface. I know there is Javaflash (HYPERLINK http://www.osflash.org/javaflash/http://www.osflash.org/javaflash/) out there but the official website is so slow and it seems to be still in beta. Basically, we are using Flash as GUI for a Java backend. We'll need to send back and forth some complex objects. We are currently exploring the possiblity of using XML to send values. I'm confused. Communicating with a back end would be better done with mx.rpc classes or something like that, no? ExternalInterface is usually for communicating with JavaScript, not Java. Which version of Flash are you using? -- Mike Keesey ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash / Java Communication with ExternalInterface
I'm not sure if this will help you but on my current project I have a Oracle / Java back end and I created some servlets to process and return XML to the Flash client for processing. Although for this project I am using AS3, what I use is equivalent to LoadVars. Servlets execute within the Web server’s process space and they persist between calls so they can keep state information as well. If anyone has anything to add or another suggestion I would be interested to know. Ciao, Rob. Alain Rousseau wrote: Hi All, we're at a point in a project where we need good communication between Flash and Java. ATM we are using SWT Flash and it's FSCommand handling. I would like to go a bit further to be able to send complex objects via ExternalInterface. I know there is Javaflash (HYPERLINK http://www.osflash.org/javaflash/http://www.osflash.org/javaflash/) out there but the official website is so slow and it seems to be still in beta. Basically, we are using Flash as GUI for a Java backend. We'll need to send back and forth some complex objects. We are currently exploring the possiblity of using XML to send values. What solution would be the best ? Meaning which one gets the fastest response, stability and extendability. Are there any other options or howto's than FSCommand ? any link or tips are welcome. Or is Javaflash stable enough for use in a commercial App ? Thanks in advance ! Alain No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/785 - Release Date: 2007-05-02 14:16 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash / Java Communication with ExternalInterface
Java 6 has a new Scripting engine /Script manager so you could use External interface and write some sort of javascript gateway to bridge Flash and Java -- maybe. Just a thought... http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/api/javax/script/package-summary.html T. Michael Keesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/3/07, Alain Rousseau wrote: Hi All, we're at a point in a project where we need good communication between Flash and Java. ATM we are using SWT Flash and it's FSCommand handling. I would like to go a bit further to be able to send complex objects via ExternalInterface. I know there is Javaflash (HYPERLINK http://www.osflash.org/javaflash/http://www.osflash.org/javaflash/) out there but the official website is so slow and it seems to be still in beta. Basically, we are using Flash as GUI for a Java backend. We'll need to send back and forth some complex objects. We are currently exploring the possiblity of using XML to send values. I'm confused. Communicating with a back end would be better done with mx.rpc classes or something like that, no? ExternalInterface is usually for communicating with JavaScript, not Java. Which version of Flash are you using? -- Mike Keesey ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flash / Java Communication with ExternalInterface
If you're looking for best/fastest communication between Flash and Java to send complex data, I would suggest using an AMF protocol such as OpenAMF. The other two options are XML or WebServices. AMF is faster because it's all binary and you use Java VO's (converted to Flash Objects with the same data type/name) to send data back and forth. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain Rousseau Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 4:52 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash / Java Communication with ExternalInterface Hi All, we're at a point in a project where we need good communication between Flash and Java. ATM we are using SWT Flash and it's FSCommand handling. I would like to go a bit further to be able to send complex objects via ExternalInterface. I know there is Javaflash (HYPERLINK http://www.osflash.org/javaflash/http://www.osflash.org/javaflash/) out there but the official website is so slow and it seems to be still in beta. Basically, we are using Flash as GUI for a Java backend. We'll need to send back and forth some complex objects. We are currently exploring the possiblity of using XML to send values. What solution would be the best ? Meaning which one gets the fastest response, stability and extendability. Are there any other options or howto's than FSCommand ? any link or tips are welcome. Or is Javaflash stable enough for use in a commercial App ? Thanks in advance ! Alain No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/785 - Release Date: 2007-05-02 14:16 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash / Java Communication with ExternalInterface
Currently we're using Flash 8, but switching to Flex is also an option. The thing is that we are building a Java Desktop Application, forgot to mention that, it's not a web application. FYI, ExternalInterface can be used with any other platform if the proper hooks are in place. It can be done with JavaScript, C# and Java (with JavaFlash) As I said JavaFlash is still in beta and I'm looking for other options, but not web options as Robert proposed. Thanks for the advice tho ! We have FLash running inside a widget created by SWT Flash. Inside it we can use a flashobject widget with code looking like this : flashobject.setVariable(String name, String value) wich is the basic setVariable sending only strings. We need to be able to call Flash Methods as well, so we would like to do flashobject.FlashMethodCall(args) So far the only thing we can do is use FSCommand and pass variables as strings ... If it's the only option, we'll go back to the old parse the string to extract your data way. Otherwise any other option is welcome ! :) Thanks ! T. Michael Keesey wrote: On 5/3/07, Alain Rousseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, we're at a point in a project where we need good communication between Flash and Java. ATM we are using SWT Flash and it's FSCommand handling. I would like to go a bit further to be able to send complex objects via ExternalInterface. I know there is Javaflash (HYPERLINK http://www.osflash.org/javaflash/http://www.osflash.org/javaflash/) out there but the official website is so slow and it seems to be still in beta. Basically, we are using Flash as GUI for a Java backend. We'll need to send back and forth some complex objects. We are currently exploring the possiblity of using XML to send values. I'm confused. Communicating with a back end would be better done with mx.rpc classes or something like that, no? ExternalInterface is usually for communicating with JavaScript, not Java. Which version of Flash are you using? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash / Java Communication with ExternalInterface
Is there any specific reason why you're integrating Flash in a Java app? Meaning, are you just using the Java app as a wrapper for the Flash app? If all you want to do is communicate with a Java backend, Flash by itself will do just fine. If you need stuff like file I/O, there's Flash tools for that such as MDM Zinc, SWHX, Apollo (alpha).. http://haxe.org/swhx http://www.multidmedia.com/software/zinc/ http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/apollo/ For Flash to server communication there's all kinds of options. regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Alain Rousseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:51 PM Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash / Java Communication with ExternalInterface Hi All, we're at a point in a project where we need good communication between Flash and Java. ATM we are using SWT Flash and it's FSCommand handling. I would like to go a bit further to be able to send complex objects via ExternalInterface. I know there is Javaflash (HYPERLINK http://www.osflash.org/javaflash/http://www.osflash.org/javaflash/) out there but the official website is so slow and it seems to be still in beta. Basically, we are using Flash as GUI for a Java backend. We'll need to send back and forth some complex objects. We are currently exploring the possiblity of using XML to send values. What solution would be the best ? Meaning which one gets the fastest response, stability and extendability. Are there any other options or howto's than FSCommand ? any link or tips are welcome. Or is Javaflash stable enough for use in a commercial App ? Thanks in advance ! Alain ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash / Java Communication with ExternalInterface
Thanks Muzak, We'll look into that. As for your other post, we'll be looking into Apollo in the near future but right now we are stuck with Java as our App is pretty much completed. Thanks all for your answers, it will give us some food for thought. Alain Muzak wrote: In that case, look into JSON. http://www.json.org/ regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Alain Rousseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash / Java Communication with ExternalInterface Currently we're using Flash 8, but switching to Flex is also an option. The thing is that we are building a Java Desktop Application, forgot to mention that, it's not a web application. FYI, ExternalInterface can be used with any other platform if the proper hooks are in place. It can be done with JavaScript, C# and Java (with JavaFlash) As I said JavaFlash is still in beta and I'm looking for other options, but not web options as Robert proposed. Thanks for the advice tho ! We have FLash running inside a widget created by SWT Flash. Inside it we can use a flashobject widget with code looking like this : flashobject.setVariable(String name, String value) wich is the basic setVariable sending only strings. We need to be able to call Flash Methods as well, so we would like to do flashobject.FlashMethodCall(args) So far the only thing we can do is use FSCommand and pass variables as strings ... If it's the only option, we'll go back to the old parse the string to extract your data way. Otherwise any other option is welcome ! :) Thanks ! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flash / Java Communication with ExternalInterface
If it's a desktop app, then I would probably suggest using Apollo. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muzak Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 7:19 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash / Java Communication with ExternalInterface In that case, look into JSON. http://www.json.org/ regards, Muzak - Original Message - From: Alain Rousseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash / Java Communication with ExternalInterface Currently we're using Flash 8, but switching to Flex is also an option. The thing is that we are building a Java Desktop Application, forgot to mention that, it's not a web application. FYI, ExternalInterface can be used with any other platform if the proper hooks are in place. It can be done with JavaScript, C# and Java (with JavaFlash) As I said JavaFlash is still in beta and I'm looking for other options, but not web options as Robert proposed. Thanks for the advice tho ! We have FLash running inside a widget created by SWT Flash. Inside it we can use a flashobject widget with code looking like this : flashobject.setVariable(String name, String value) wich is the basic setVariable sending only strings. We need to be able to call Flash Methods as well, so we would like to do flashobject.FlashMethodCall(args) So far the only thing we can do is use FSCommand and pass variables as strings ... If it's the only option, we'll go back to the old parse the string to extract your data way. Otherwise any other option is welcome ! :) Thanks ! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
