Re: [Flashcoders] SWF Decompiler
Hi Andy, I replied to you offlist, but haven't received a response. Does anyone know the differences between the demo that's available and the latest version? Some are listed on the demo download page (http://buraks.com/asv/1.html), but the list is too big, as the demo doesn't even have any resource extraction features. Still the demo will help to get the 'feel' of ASV - the tabs, the preview window... In my biased opinion, ASV has the best AS decompiler (improved every day) and resource extraction and some bits of extras geared towards professional user. What's missing is direct FLA conversion (ASV makes use of JSAPI for that). Results depend on the input SWF, whether the FLA is directly created or created by JSAPI, as with any conversion process. You can send us a sample SWF, and we can send you back text output of ASV as a demonstration. Thanks Alias™ and flashsavvy for your nice words about ASV. Best regards, Burak www.asvguy.com Burak KALAYCI, Manitu Group http://www.buraks.com http://www.manitugroup.com - Original Message - From: Andy Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] SWF Decompiler The SWFs I'm decompiling are mine. There are actually two different situations where I need to decompile an SWF: 1) The original flash developer on the projects I'm on quit some time ago, and there was a source file he forgot to check in to source control, so I can't build the project. I'd like do be able to decompile the SWF so I can regenerate the source. 2) We have an application that converts Powerpoint movies into SWFs. The output SWFs have some weird behaviors, so I'd like to be able to decompile them to see exactly what the code is that the generator is creating (hopefully making it easier to debug). As for ASV, I'm hesitant to get it because I can't really get a recent demo to try it. The demo they have is a few years (and versions) out of date. Does anyone know the differences between the demo that's available and the latest version? -Andy On 12/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andy, are you decompiling your own SWFs? also, what are you seeking from decompiling the SWFs? i ask for 2 reasons: 1) if you are decompiling other people's SWFs, they usually do not like it, so stop. 2) not all SWFs come from FLAs anymore. if you do not know the provenance of the SWF, after decompiling you may end up with gibberish. decompilers originally tartgeted FLA authored SWFs but today they may be from MXML, SWiSH Max, etc. that all having been said, i concur with Alias. Buraks.com/ASV is the gold standard for SWF decompilers. it costs $$ but it is worth it. i have also tried Sothink but found it no where in league with Buraks.com/ASV. Here is a link for a review on ASV from last year: http://www.flashmagazine.com/945.htm Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't used eltima, but I'd generally recommend ASV as being the best decompiler going. http://www.buraks.com/asv/ HTH, Alias ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] SWF Decompiler
Oops, looks like it was eaten by gmail's spam filter. -Andy On 12/19/06, Burak KALAYCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andy, I replied to you offlist, but haven't received a response. Does anyone know the differences between the demo that's available and the latest version? Some are listed on the demo download page (http://buraks.com/asv/1.html), but the list is too big, as the demo doesn't even have any resource extraction features. Still the demo will help to get the 'feel' of ASV - the tabs, the preview window... In my biased opinion, ASV has the best AS decompiler (improved every day) and resource extraction and some bits of extras geared towards professional user. What's missing is direct FLA conversion (ASV makes use of JSAPI for that). Results depend on the input SWF, whether the FLA is directly created or created by JSAPI, as with any conversion process. You can send us a sample SWF, and we can send you back text output of ASV as a demonstration. Thanks Alias™ and flashsavvy for your nice words about ASV. Best regards, Burak www.asvguy.com Burak KALAYCI, Manitu Group http://www.buraks.com http://www.manitugroup.com - Original Message - From: Andy Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] SWF Decompiler The SWFs I'm decompiling are mine. There are actually two different situations where I need to decompile an SWF: 1) The original flash developer on the projects I'm on quit some time ago, and there was a source file he forgot to check in to source control, so I can't build the project. I'd like do be able to decompile the SWF so I can regenerate the source. 2) We have an application that converts Powerpoint movies into SWFs. The output SWFs have some weird behaviors, so I'd like to be able to decompile them to see exactly what the code is that the generator is creating (hopefully making it easier to debug). As for ASV, I'm hesitant to get it because I can't really get a recent demo to try it. The demo they have is a few years (and versions) out of date. Does anyone know the differences between the demo that's available and the latest version? -Andy On 12/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andy, are you decompiling your own SWFs? also, what are you seeking from decompiling the SWFs? i ask for 2 reasons: 1) if you are decompiling other people's SWFs, they usually do not like it, so stop. 2) not all SWFs come from FLAs anymore. if you do not know the provenance of the SWF, after decompiling you may end up with gibberish. decompilers originally tartgeted FLA authored SWFs but today they may be from MXML, SWiSH Max, etc. that all having been said, i concur with Alias. Buraks.com/ASV is the gold standard for SWF decompilers. it costs $$ but it is worth it. i have also tried Sothink but found it no where in league with Buraks.com/ASV. Here is a link for a review on ASV from last year: http://www.flashmagazine.com/945.htm Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't used eltima, but I'd generally recommend ASV as being the best decompiler going. http://www.buraks.com/asv/ HTH, Alias ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] SWF Decompiler
The SWFs I'm decompiling are mine. There are actually two different situations where I need to decompile an SWF: 1) The original flash developer on the projects I'm on quit some time ago, and there was a source file he forgot to check in to source control, so I can't build the project. I'd like do be able to decompile the SWF so I can regenerate the source. 2) We have an application that converts Powerpoint movies into SWFs. The output SWFs have some weird behaviors, so I'd like to be able to decompile them to see exactly what the code is that the generator is creating (hopefully making it easier to debug). As for ASV, I'm hesitant to get it because I can't really get a recent demo to try it. The demo they have is a few years (and versions) out of date. Does anyone know the differences between the demo that's available and the latest version? -Andy On 12/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andy, are you decompiling your own SWFs? also, what are you seeking from decompiling the SWFs? i ask for 2 reasons: 1) if you are decompiling other people's SWFs, they usually do not like it, so stop. 2) not all SWFs come from FLAs anymore. if you do not know the provenance of the SWF, after decompiling you may end up with gibberish. decompilers originally tartgeted FLA authored SWFs but today they may be from MXML, SWiSH Max, etc. that all having been said, i concur with Alias. Buraks.com/ASV is the gold standard for SWF decompilers. it costs $$ but it is worth it. i have also tried Sothink but found it no where in league with Buraks.com/ASV. Here is a link for a review on ASV from last year: http://www.flashmagazine.com/945.htm Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't used eltima, but I'd generally recommend ASV as being the best decompiler going. http://www.buraks.com/asv/ HTH, Alias __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] SWF Decompiler
Haven't used eltima, but I'd generally recommend ASV as being the best decompiler going. http://www.buraks.com/asv/ HTH, Alias On 12/12/06, Andy Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, At work I've run into a situation where I need to decompile some SWFs. A few weeks ago I had looked for one, but couldn't find any good free ones. It looks like the company may be willing to buy one, so I'm wondering if anyone here knows which are the good ones. The two I found demos for and tried were: * Sothink SWF Decompiler (http://www.sothink.com/product/flashdecompiler/) * Eltima Flash Decompiler (http://www.eltima.com/products/flashdecompiler/) From the demos I couldn't really tell if either were particularly good, as they both had restricted demos. Has anyone on this list used either of these, or other ones, before? Any suggestions? -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] SWF Decompiler
andy, are you decompiling your own SWFs? also, what are you seeking from decompiling the SWFs? i ask for 2 reasons: 1) if you are decompiling other people's SWFs, they usually do not like it, so stop. 2) not all SWFs come from FLAs anymore. if you do not know the provenance of the SWF, after decompiling you may end up with gibberish. decompilers originally tartgeted FLA authored SWFs but today they may be from MXML, SWiSH Max, etc. that all having been said, i concur with Alias. Buraks.com/ASV is the gold standard for SWF decompilers. it costs $$ but it is worth it. i have also tried Sothink but found it no where in league with Buraks.com/ASV. Here is a link for a review on ASV from last year: http://www.flashmagazine.com/945.htm Alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't used eltima, but I'd generally recommend ASV as being the best decompiler going. http://www.buraks.com/asv/ HTH, Alias __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] SWF Decompiler
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 03:47:01PM -0500, Andy Herrman wrote: Hey all, At work I've run into a situation where I need to decompile some SWFs. A few weeks ago I had looked for one, but couldn't find any good free ones. It looks like the company may be willing to buy one, so I'm wondering if anyone here knows which are the good ones. How much is the copmany willing to spend ? Maybe those money could be directed to improvement of existing free decompilers ? Ming (libming.org) has utilities to convert an SWF to a perl,php,python or C++ source... but needs some fixing. --strk; ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] SWF Decompiler
Willing to spend? As little as possible (the $80 for the Sothink one they'd pay, but that's cheap). I like the idea of helping out with free versions, but that would cost a few orders of magnitude more. Also, we need something soon, and don't have time to wait (even if we help) for something to get good enough for what we need. -Andy On 12/13/06, strk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 03:47:01PM -0500, Andy Herrman wrote: Hey all, At work I've run into a situation where I need to decompile some SWFs. A few weeks ago I had looked for one, but couldn't find any good free ones. It looks like the company may be willing to buy one, so I'm wondering if anyone here knows which are the good ones. How much is the copmany willing to spend ? Maybe those money could be directed to improvement of existing free decompilers ? Ming (libming.org) has utilities to convert an SWF to a perl,php,python or C++ source... but needs some fixing. --strk; ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] SWF Decompiler
flare is free. http://www.nowrap.de/flare.html On Dec 13, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Andy Herrman wrote: Willing to spend? As little as possible (the $80 for the Sothink one they'd pay, but that's cheap). I like the idea of helping out with free versions, but that would cost a few orders of magnitude more. Also, we need something soon, and don't have time to wait (even if we help) for something to get good enough for what we need. -Andy On 12/13/06, strk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 03:47:01PM -0500, Andy Herrman wrote: Hey all, At work I've run into a situation where I need to decompile some SWFs. A few weeks ago I had looked for one, but couldn't find any good free ones. It looks like the company may be willing to buy one, so I'm wondering if anyone here knows which are the good ones. How much is the copmany willing to spend ? Maybe those money could be directed to improvement of existing free decompilers ? Ming (libming.org) has utilities to convert an SWF to a perl,php,python or C++ source... but needs some fixing. --strk; ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
