Re: [Flashcoders] Seeking in a Progressively Downloaded FLV - Return of

2007-02-08 Thread Francis Chary

Yes, you're the one! I remember this!

On 2/7/07, Kelly Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Metadata injection with php has become a proven way to faux-stream flv's.
It
works great for me, and under substantial loads.

Here is the lowdown:


http://www.flashcomguru.com/index.cfm/2005/11/2/Streaming-flv-video-via-PHP-take-two

Be sure to read through the comments below as there are a bevy of great
coding suggestions and enhancements.  Good luck.

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[Flashcoders] Seeking in a Progressively Downloaded FLV - Return of

2007-02-07 Thread Jeff Harrington
With Flash 8 am I correct in believing that if I add cue points to a FLV
that I'll be able to seek within it even though it's being delivered via
a regular web server?  How does that work?  Does the web server actually
get a new request? 

Thanks,

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Re: [Flashcoders] Seeking in a Progressively Downloaded FLV - Return of

2007-02-07 Thread Francis Chary

You'll be able to seek to the cue points, yes, but the client will have to
actually download that point of the file first. They won't be able to start
watching from one of the cue points immediately.

The way progressive download works, it starts downloading at the start of
the file, and continues linearly until the whole file is downloaded. You can
only seek to cue points that have been downloaded.

Francis

On 2/7/07, Jeff Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


With Flash 8 am I correct in believing that if I add cue points to a FLV
that I'll be able to seek within it even though it's being delivered via
a regular web server?  How does that work?  Does the web server actually
get a new request?

Thanks,

Jeff Harrington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://jeffharrington.org

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Re: [Flashcoders] Seeking in a Progressively Downloaded FLV - Return of

2007-02-07 Thread Johannes Nel

not in the way you are thinking. you can seek only to a point in a movie
that has already been downloaded.

have you looked at red5?

On 2/7/07, Jeff Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


With Flash 8 am I correct in believing that if I add cue points to a FLV
that I'll be able to seek within it even though it's being delivered via
a regular web server?  How does that work?  Does the web server actually
get a new request?

Thanks,

Jeff Harrington
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http://jeffharrington.org

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Re: [Flashcoders] Seeking in a Progressively Downloaded FLV - Return of

2007-02-07 Thread Jeff Harrington
Thanks Johannes and Francis...  Yeah Johannes I'm tracking Red5 but
we're already deploying through Influxis a FMS solution. 

I was just shocked to find in some readings I was doing yesterday about
cue points that seek worked - glad that my understanding that seeking to
downloaded material worked but nothing new.  (Our app requires the user
to be able to seek to authored cue points within a stream). 

Interesting that  MP3's can seek to arbitrary points without being
downloaded. 

Jeff

Johannes Nel wrote:
 not in the way you are thinking. you can seek only to a point in a movie
 that has already been downloaded.

 have you looked at red5?

 On 2/7/07, Jeff Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 With Flash 8 am I correct in believing that if I add cue points to a FLV
 that I'll be able to seek within it even though it's being delivered via
 a regular web server?  How does that work?  Does the web server actually
 get a new request?

 Thanks,

 Jeff Harrington
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://jeffharrington.org

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Re: [Flashcoders] Seeking in a Progressively Downloaded FLV - Return of

2007-02-07 Thread Francis Chary

I have heard of a solution that someone implemented, using server-side code
to serve the .flv file with different injected metadata, that did the same
basic job of allowing seek to any point... but I can't remember how it was
done or where I saw it. Does anyone else remember that?

Francis

On 2/7/07, Jeff Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks Johannes and Francis...  Yeah Johannes I'm tracking Red5 but
we're already deploying through Influxis a FMS solution.

I was just shocked to find in some readings I was doing yesterday about
cue points that seek worked - glad that my understanding that seeking to
downloaded material worked but nothing new.  (Our app requires the user
to be able to seek to authored cue points within a stream).

Interesting that  MP3's can seek to arbitrary points without being
downloaded.

Jeff

Johannes Nel wrote:
 not in the way you are thinking. you can seek only to a point in a movie
 that has already been downloaded.

 have you looked at red5?

 On 2/7/07, Jeff Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 With Flash 8 am I correct in believing that if I add cue points to a
FLV
 that I'll be able to seek within it even though it's being delivered
via
 a regular web server?  How does that work?  Does the web server
actually
 get a new request?

 Thanks,

 Jeff Harrington
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://jeffharrington.org

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Re: [Flashcoders] Seeking in a Progressively Downloaded FLV - Return of

2007-02-07 Thread Michael Stuhr

Francis Chary schrieb:

I have heard of a solution that someone implemented, using server-side code
to serve the .flv file with different injected metadata, that did the same
basic job of allowing seek to any point... but I can't remember how it was
done or where I saw it. Does anyone else remember that?


doesn't google do this ?

micha
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Re: [Flashcoders] Seeking in a Progressively Downloaded FLV - Return of

2007-02-07 Thread Francis Chary

hey, so they do!

On 2/7/07, Michael Stuhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Francis Chary schrieb:
 I have heard of a solution that someone implemented, using server-side
code
 to serve the .flv file with different injected metadata, that did the
same
 basic job of allowing seek to any point... but I can't remember how it
was
 done or where I saw it. Does anyone else remember that?

doesn't google do this ?

micha
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Re: [Flashcoders] Seeking in a Progressively Downloaded FLV - Return of

2007-02-07 Thread Jeff Harrington
Yeah that was done with PHP rewriting flv's dynamically based on a user
request.  Was a bit unstable if I remember right.  At least I couldn't
get it to work.

Jeff

Francis Chary wrote:
 I have heard of a solution that someone implemented, using server-side
 code
 to serve the .flv file with different injected metadata, that did the
 same
 basic job of allowing seek to any point... but I can't remember how it
 was
 done or where I saw it. Does anyone else remember that?

 Francis

 On 2/7/07, Jeff Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Johannes and Francis...  Yeah Johannes I'm tracking Red5 but
 we're already deploying through Influxis a FMS solution.

 I was just shocked to find in some readings I was doing yesterday about
 cue points that seek worked - glad that my understanding that seeking to
 downloaded material worked but nothing new.  (Our app requires the user
 to be able to seek to authored cue points within a stream).

 Interesting that  MP3's can seek to arbitrary points without being
 downloaded.

 Jeff

 Johannes Nel wrote:
  not in the way you are thinking. you can seek only to a point in a
 movie
  that has already been downloaded.
 
  have you looked at red5?
 
  On 2/7/07, Jeff Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  With Flash 8 am I correct in believing that if I add cue points to a
 FLV
  that I'll be able to seek within it even though it's being delivered
 via
  a regular web server?  How does that work?  Does the web server
 actually
  get a new request?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jeff Harrington
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://jeffharrington.org
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Seeking in a Progressively Downloaded FLV - Return of

2007-02-07 Thread Francis Chary

Yeah, for sure. Does it basically work the same way as Flash Comm Server?

On 2/7/07, Johannes Nel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


well. let me put it to you like this. flv is a continues format. red5
contains the libraries you need to analyze it. calling a servlet which
then
returns the data from that point.

On 2/7/07, Francis Chary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have heard of a solution that someone implemented, using server-side
 code
 to serve the .flv file with different injected metadata, that did the
same
 basic job of allowing seek to any point... but I can't remember how it
was
 done or where I saw it. Does anyone else remember that?

 Francis

 On 2/7/07, Jeff Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thanks Johannes and Francis...  Yeah Johannes I'm tracking Red5 but
  we're already deploying through Influxis a FMS solution.
 
  I was just shocked to find in some readings I was doing yesterday
about
  cue points that seek worked - glad that my understanding that seeking
to
  downloaded material worked but nothing new.  (Our app requires the
user
  to be able to seek to authored cue points within a stream).
 
  Interesting that  MP3's can seek to arbitrary points without being
  downloaded.
 
  Jeff
 
  Johannes Nel wrote:
   not in the way you are thinking. you can seek only to a point in a
 movie
   that has already been downloaded.
  
   have you looked at red5?
  
   On 2/7/07, Jeff Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   With Flash 8 am I correct in believing that if I add cue points to
a
  FLV
   that I'll be able to seek within it even though it's being
delivered
  via
   a regular web server?  How does that work?  Does the web server
  actually
   get a new request?
  
   Thanks,
  
   Jeff Harrington
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   http://jeffharrington.org
  
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Re: [Flashcoders] Seeking in a Progressively Downloaded FLV - Return of

2007-02-07 Thread Kelly Smith

Metadata injection with php has become a proven way to faux-stream flv's. It
works great for me, and under substantial loads.

Here is the lowdown:

http://www.flashcomguru.com/index.cfm/2005/11/2/Streaming-flv-video-via-PHP-take-two

Be sure to read through the comments below as there are a bevy of great
coding suggestions and enhancements.  Good luck.

- k

On 2/7/07, Francis Chary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yeah, for sure. Does it basically work the same way as Flash Comm Server?

On 2/7/07, Johannes Nel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 well. let me put it to you like this. flv is a continues format. red5
 contains the libraries you need to analyze it. calling a servlet which
 then
 returns the data from that point.

 On 2/7/07, Francis Chary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have heard of a solution that someone implemented, using server-side
  code
  to serve the .flv file with different injected metadata, that did the
 same
  basic job of allowing seek to any point... but I can't remember how it
 was
  done or where I saw it. Does anyone else remember that?
 
  Francis
 
  On 2/7/07, Jeff Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Thanks Johannes and Francis...  Yeah Johannes I'm tracking Red5 but
   we're already deploying through Influxis a FMS solution.
  
   I was just shocked to find in some readings I was doing yesterday
 about
   cue points that seek worked - glad that my understanding that
seeking
 to
   downloaded material worked but nothing new.  (Our app requires the
 user
   to be able to seek to authored cue points within a stream).
  
   Interesting that  MP3's can seek to arbitrary points without being
   downloaded.
  
   Jeff
  
   Johannes Nel wrote:
not in the way you are thinking. you can seek only to a point in a
  movie
that has already been downloaded.
   
have you looked at red5?
   
On 2/7/07, Jeff Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
With Flash 8 am I correct in believing that if I add cue points
to
 a
   FLV
that I'll be able to seek within it even though it's being
 delivered
   via
a regular web server?  How does that work?  Does the web server
   actually
get a new request?
   
Thanks,
   
Jeff Harrington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://jeffharrington.org
   
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