RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-14 Thread Merrill, Jason
Uh, yeah. Has to be Flash. Unless Quicktime can handle XML, Webservices,
Javascript, load other .swfs, etc.

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>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernard Visscher
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:57 AM
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>>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)3rd
>>party tools?
>>
>>Does it have to be flash, because quicktime can do this...
>>http://www.ideesfortes.nl/shapesquad/
>>
>>
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>>party tools?
>>
>>Hey thanks though - appreciate it!
>>
>>Jason Merrill
>>Bank of America
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Weyert de Boer
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>>wmode)3rd
>>>>party tools?
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, well sadly enough I can't help you with this... Neither do I
>>have
>>>>time for it. Sorry, otherwise I wouldn't mind to hack something up
in
>>>>Delphi (win32 onyl)
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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-14 Thread Merrill, Jason
>>I think that Ice Player need the Plugin to be installed.
>>You can also use ScreenWeaver HX : http://haxe.org/swhx

Nicolas, Yes, you do have to have the Ice player installed.  I said that
already. :)  And that's OK with the client.

>From what I read about Screenweaver HX, (and I HOPE I am wrong) you
still compile to an .exe file - so this isn't a solution for Internet
Explorer, which is what I am asking for.  Basically, just need the exact
same thing the ice player does, but without the incompatibilities with
Javascript and the Flash 8 player like the Ice player has.  

Thanks anyway,

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>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicolas Cannasse
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:59 AM
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wmode)3rd
>>party tools?
>>
>>> Yeah, it can be done with the Flashants Ice player -
>>> http://www.flashants.com/root/index.shtml
>>>
>>> It's an ActiveX control you have to install.
>>
>>I think that Ice Player need the Plugin to be installed.
>>You can also use ScreenWeaver HX : http://haxe.org/swhx
>>
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Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-14 Thread Weyert de Boer

How cool is that :-)
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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-14 Thread Bernard Visscher
Does it have to be flash, because quicktime can do this...
http://www.ideesfortes.nl/shapesquad/


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party tools?

Hey thanks though - appreciate it!

Jason Merrill
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>>-Original Message-
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>>Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:09 AM
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>>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)3rd
>>party tools?
>>
>>Yeah, well sadly enough I can't help you with this... Neither do I
have
>>time for it. Sorry, otherwise I wouldn't mind to hack something up in
>>Delphi (win32 onyl)
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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
>>I think what you are looking for is something like
>>www.screentime.com/mprojector.  Check out
>>www.screentime.com/software/mprojector/flas.html#flashShapedWindows -
>>pretty
>>cool!  It allows for non-square and semi-transparent windows.

Isn't that compiled as a projector file though - an .exe?  That's not
what I'm looking for - Zinc and some other 3rd party tools do that.  I
need the file to come through the browser.  Thanks though.

Jason Merrill
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>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Lee
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 1:40 PM
>>To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
>>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)3rd
>>party tools?
>>
>>Jason,
>>
>>I think what you are looking for is something like
>>www.screentime.com/mprojector.  Check out
>>www.screentime.com/software/mprojector/flas.html#flashShapedWindows -
>>pretty
>>cool!  It allows for non-square and semi-transparent windows.
>>
>>-tom
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Merrill,
>>Jason
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:21 AM
>>To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)3rd
>>party tools?
>>
>>Hey thanks though - appreciate it!
>>
>>Jason Merrill
>>Bank of America
>>Learning Technology Solutions
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Weyert de Boer
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:09 AM
>>>>To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>>>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
>>wmode)3rd
>>>>party tools?
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, well sadly enough I can't help you with this... Neither do I
>>have
>>>>time for it. Sorry, otherwise I wouldn't mind to hack something up
in
>>>>Delphi (win32 onyl)
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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Tom Lee
Jason,

I think what you are looking for is something like
www.screentime.com/mprojector.  Check out
www.screentime.com/software/mprojector/flas.html#flashShapedWindows - pretty
cool!  It allows for non-square and semi-transparent windows.

-tom

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Hey thanks though - appreciate it!

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>>party tools?
>>
>>Yeah, well sadly enough I can't help you with this... Neither do I
have
>>time for it. Sorry, otherwise I wouldn't mind to hack something up in
>>Delphi (win32 onyl)
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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode) 3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Hey thanks though - appreciate it!

Jason Merrill
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>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
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>>Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:09 AM
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>>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)3rd
>>party tools?
>>
>>Yeah, well sadly enough I can't help you with this... Neither do I
have
>>time for it. Sorry, otherwise I wouldn't mind to hack something up in
>>Delphi (win32 onyl)
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Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Weyert de Boer
Yeah, well sadly enough I can't help you with this... Neither do I have 
time for it. Sorry, otherwise I wouldn't mind to hack something up in 
Delphi (win32 onyl)

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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
>>Aha, I understand you now! I won't know a good solution for that now,
of
>>course we can write a new browser plugin ;-) It's not that dificuilt
to
>>make, though. Only how to hook such thing up with the webbrowser...

...yeah, and how to write one that works with the Flash 8 security
model, which I'm not sure would even be possible at this point.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Weyert de Boer



No, that's not what I'm talking about.  I'm talking about a non-square
shaped flash file, transparent background, that can be dragged around

player allows this as a wrap around Active X for the Flash player, but
it has some incompatibilities with the Flash 8 player.
  
Aha, I understand you now! I won't know a good solution for that now, of 
course we can write a new browser plugin ;-) It's not that dificuilt to 
make, though. Only how to hook such thing up with the webbrowser...

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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
>>Don't you want something similar to the Chromeless windows of Internet
>>Explorer? Google for it, it's a window which out the caption etc.

No, that's not what I'm talking about.  I'm talking about a non-square
shaped flash file, transparent background, that can be dragged around
the browser and outside the browser - our customer wants an odd-shaped
application to sit off to the side outside the browser as a help tool
made in flash. An install for an additional player is OK, and the Ice
player allows this as a wrap around Active X for the Flash player, but
it has some incompatibilities with the Flash 8 player.

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>>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)3rd
>>party tools?
>>
>>Don't you want something similar to the Chromeless windows of Internet
>>Explorer? Google for it, it's a window which out the caption etc.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Weyert de Boer
Don't you want something similar to the Chromeless windows of Internet 
Explorer? Google for it, it's a window which out the caption etc.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Yeah, it can be done with the Flashants Ice player -
http://www.flashants.com/root/index.shtml

It's an ActiveX control you have to install.  

>> I don't think I'd want
>>all the headache with regards to end users etc.

Agreed.  It was not my decision to use it, that was before I got here.
All worked well with it until the Flash 8 security model changed and it
wasn't compatible with it.  I'm contacting the vendor, but we will
probably trash this and end up doing it a different way.

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>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee McColl-Sylvester
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:37 AM
>>To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)3rd
>>party tools?
>>
>>Tbh, I didn't know it could even be done in a browser.  I know you can
>>do it in an exe, or in a layer with the wmode set, but as a floating
>>browser controlled window is something I've not ever even heard
mention
>>of or would have thought possible without some browser plugin or
client
>>side activex wizardry, and if it's the latter, I don't think I'd want
>>all the headache with regards to end users etc.
>>
>>Lee
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Merrill,
>>Jason
>>Sent: 13 June 2006 14:07
>>To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)3rd
>>party tools?
>>
>>Yeah, I am wondering if Localconnection won't work because of the same
>>reasons the Javascript won't work with Flash 8 running in the Ice
>>ActiveX player.
>>
>>Are there no other tools that can do this?  I know Zinc can make it a
>>custom shaped window, but only as an .exe or screensaver - not running
>>as a wrapper in a browser.
>>
>>Jason Merrill
>>Bank of America
>>Learning Technology Solutions
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Weyert de Boer
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:56 AM
>>>>To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>>>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)
>>3rd
>>>>party tools?
>>>>
>>>>Hi Merrill,
>>>>
>>>>I am not sure fi you are able to use LocalConnection or
>>>>ExternalInterface without  beining the same application. I mean, do
>>you
>>>>know if you can communicatie bi-directionally with multiple Flash
>>>>ActiveX wrappers? I.e. browser <> win32 application? I would think
>>this
>>>>won't be possible, not sure of course! You also have the problem you
>>>>might not be able to trigger the popup from within your
>>website/webpage.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe you can make some sort of notification application which can
>>>>receive notify messages from you server or website, and then show
it.
>>>>Something like that should be possible, but most big companies (like
>>the
>>>>one where you work for) don't opening ports on client ports.
>>Ernst&Young
>>>>and Randstad doesn't
>>>>
>>>>Yours,
>>>>Weyert de Boer
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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
Tbh, I didn't know it could even be done in a browser.  I know you can
do it in an exe, or in a layer with the wmode set, but as a floating
browser controlled window is something I've not ever even heard mention
of or would have thought possible without some browser plugin or client
side activex wizardry, and if it's the latter, I don't think I'd want
all the headache with regards to end users etc.

Lee



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill,
Jason
Sent: 13 June 2006 14:07
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd
party tools?

Yeah, I am wondering if Localconnection won't work because of the same
reasons the Javascript won't work with Flash 8 running in the Ice
ActiveX player.  

Are there no other tools that can do this?  I know Zinc can make it a
custom shaped window, but only as an .exe or screensaver - not running
as a wrapper in a browser.  

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Weyert de Boer
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:56 AM
>>To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)
3rd
>>party tools?
>>
>>Hi Merrill,
>>
>>I am not sure fi you are able to use LocalConnection or
>>ExternalInterface without  beining the same application. I mean, do
you
>>know if you can communicatie bi-directionally with multiple Flash
>>ActiveX wrappers? I.e. browser <> win32 application? I would think
this
>>won't be possible, not sure of course! You also have the problem you
>>might not be able to trigger the popup from within your
website/webpage.
>>
>>Maybe you can make some sort of notification application which can
>>receive notify messages from you server or website, and then show it.
>>Something like that should be possible, but most big companies (like
the
>>one where you work for) don't opening ports on client ports.
Ernst&Young
>>and Randstad doesn't
>>
>>Yours,
>>Weyert de Boer
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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode) 3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Yeah, I am wondering if Localconnection won't work because of the same
reasons the Javascript won't work with Flash 8 running in the Ice
ActiveX player.  

Are there no other tools that can do this?  I know Zinc can make it a
custom shaped window, but only as an .exe or screensaver - not running
as a wrapper in a browser.  

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Weyert de Boer
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:56 AM
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>>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)
3rd
>>party tools?
>>
>>Hi Merrill,
>>
>>I am not sure fi you are able to use LocalConnection or
>>ExternalInterface without  beining the same application. I mean, do
you
>>know if you can communicatie bi-directionally with multiple Flash
>>ActiveX wrappers? I.e. browser <> win32 application? I would think
this
>>won't be possible, not sure of course! You also have the problem you
>>might not be able to trigger the popup from within your
website/webpage.
>>
>>Maybe you can make some sort of notification application which can
>>receive notify messages from you server or website, and then show it.
>>Something like that should be possible, but most big companies (like
the
>>one where you work for) don't opening ports on client ports.
Ernst&Young
>>and Randstad doesn't
>>
>>Yours,
>>Weyert de Boer
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Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode) 3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Weyert de Boer

Hi Merrill,

I am not sure fi you are able to use LocalConnection or 
ExternalInterface without  beining the same application. I mean, do you 
know if you can communicatie bi-directionally with multiple Flash 
ActiveX wrappers? I.e. browser <> win32 application? I would think this 
won't be possible, not sure of course! You also have the problem you 
might not be able to trigger the popup from within your website/webpage.


Maybe you can make some sort of notification application which can 
receive notify messages from you server or website, and then show it. 
Something like that should be possible, but most big companies (like the 
one where you work for) don't opening ports on client ports. Ernst&Young 
and Randstad doesn't


Yours,
Weyert de Boer
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[Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode) 3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Does anyone know of any third party tools that will allow you from a web
site, to have a transparent window - a flash file which floats - over
the browser AND outside the browser window other than the Flashants Ice
player?  I'm not talking about wmode either, I'm talking about floating
Flash outside the browser window while running on the web.

Reason I ask for other tools is the Flashants Ice player doesn't seem to
be able to allow the Flash files to make Javascript calls (like to close
the window) with the Flash 8 player and I'm looking for another option.
In my tests it fails, but shows it works outside the Ice player.  Thanks

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

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