RE: [Flashcoders] commercial flash multi-touch projects?
>>In relation to that, John Grden posted on his blog an >>experiment that can be seen as a multi-pointer control: he >>used two wiimotes (from the wii) with wiiflash and red5 to >>control two virtual pointers. With that he was able to play a >>virtual drum inside flash, using the wiimotes as if theu were >>the sticks. >> >>Check it out, second video: >>http://www.rockonflash.com/blog/?p=52 Freaking amazing - and Papervision 3D too! Jason Merrill Bank of America GT&O Learning & Leadership Development eTools & Multimedia Team ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] commercial flash multi-touch projects?
> Hi Jason, > As I understand it, some multitouch systems (no idea about MS!) use > a process to track and broadcast multitouch data to listeners on a > socket. > > There'd be nothing stop AS3 reading data from that socket, > presumably... or (I guess) some container app interpreting the socket > data and passing it to Flash via ExternalInterface or some other > means... > > You wouldn't be able to use standard mouse events. In relation to that, John Grden posted on his blog an experiment that can be seen as a multi-pointer control: he used two wiimotes (from the wii) with wiiflash and red5 to control two virtual pointers. With that he was able to play a virtual drum inside flash, using the wiimotes as if theu were the sticks. Check it out, second video: http://www.rockonflash.com/blog/?p=52 Zeh ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] commercial flash multi-touch projects?
Yeah, it's the event handling that would throw me for a loop - I mean making/responding to a custom event is easy, but detecting and then firing a USER created event that doesn't currently exist in the Flash player is where I don't follow how it would be possible without some third party solution. Jason Merrill Bank of America GT&O Learning & Leadership Development eTools & Multimedia Team >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>Of ben gomez farrell >>Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 2:05 PM >>To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] commercial flash multi-touch projects? >> >>I'm answering despite not knowing really anything about how >>the technology works - but as the Microsoft Surface links got >>passed around a few days ago, one of the links was a DIY >>multi touch table. I only skimmed the forum link really, but >>it had some screen shots of the fingers being pressed on the >>glass and the area where the fingers were looked like blobs >>(hence they were talking about blob detection algorithms). I >>think they were using some kind of camera to point up at the >>table to detect where the finger blobs were. >> >>If some kind of video camera that can work with flash can do >>whatever optically it needs to do, and AS3 is fast enough to >>perform whatever blob detection algorithms they need, then >>it's very much possible in flash. But you know, those are >>big ifs. aren't they? >>ben >> >>Merrill, Jason wrote: >>> Curious, how are multi-touch events handled with Flash? Currently >>> isn't even remotely possible is it? Or maybe with an >>ActiveX wrapper >>> of some kind? >>> >>> Jason Merrill >>> Bank of America >>> GT&O Learning & Leadership Development eTools & Multimedia Team >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of Josh >>>>> Santangelo >>>>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:17 PM >>>>> To: Flashcoders mailing list >>>>> Subject: [Flashcoders] commercial flash multi-touch projects? >>>>> >>>>> Hello list -- this may be OT or rule-breaking, but please >>don't kill >>>>> me over it. I did a bit of work on the MS Surface project on a >>>>> temporary basis and had a great time with it (see >>endquote.com for >>>>> some info). Unfortunately due to some technology decisions in the >>>>> group, Flash devs are not really needed anymore. I'd love >>to do more >>>>> multi-touch work, but am not sure who's doing work in this area >>>>> combined with Flash. >>>>> >>>>> If anyone is involved in or aware of projects in this >>area in need >>>>> of dev help, I'd love to hear about it. >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> -josh >>>>> ___ >>>>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>>>> To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>>>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >>>>> >>>>> Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>>>> Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>>>> http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com >>>>> >>>>> >>> ___ >>> Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>> To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>> http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >>> >>> Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>> Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>> http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com >>> >>> >>___ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com >> ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] commercial flash multi-touch projects?
If you cruise around the diy multitouch sites, you'll find that there is a lot of hardware and software involved to make it work. Flash doesn't have any kind of native multitouch support, but if you provide it with the appropriate API to the hardware, you can do it. http://www.multitouch.nl/ http://mikewags.blogspot.com/ http://nuigroup.com/index.php/site/index/ http://www.whitenoiseaudio.com/touchlib/ I can't really say how it works in the MS product. There are some rumors that an SDK will be released for the iPhone. Since the iPhone has some multitouch functionality, perhaps that will be the first place that normal people will get to play with the concepts without having to build their own hardware or work for an MS partner. (I would guess that the iPhone SDK will have nothing to do with Flash, though.) -josh On Jun 4, 2007, at 11:04 AM, ben gomez farrell wrote: I'm answering despite not knowing really anything about how the technology works - but as the Microsoft Surface links got passed around a few days ago, one of the links was a DIY multi touch table. I only skimmed the forum link really, but it had some screen shots of the fingers being pressed on the glass and the area where the fingers were looked like blobs (hence they were talking about blob detection algorithms). I think they were using some kind of camera to point up at the table to detect where the finger blobs were. If some kind of video camera that can work with flash can do whatever optically it needs to do, and AS3 is fast enough to perform whatever blob detection algorithms they need, then it's very much possible in flash. But you know, those are big ifs. aren't they? ben Merrill, Jason wrote: Curious, how are multi-touch events handled with Flash? Currently isn't even remotely possible is it? Or maybe with an ActiveX wrapper of some kind? Jason Merrill Bank of America GT&O Learning & Leadership Development eTools & Multimedia Team -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Santangelo Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:17 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] commercial flash multi-touch projects? Hello list -- this may be OT or rule-breaking, but please don't kill me over it. I did a bit of work on the MS Surface project on a temporary basis and had a great time with it (see endquote.com for some info). Unfortunately due to some technology decisions in the group, Flash devs are not really needed anymore. I'd love to do more multi-touch work, but am not sure who's doing work in this area combined with Flash. If anyone is involved in or aware of projects in this area in need of dev help, I'd love to hear about it. thanks, -josh ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http:// www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] commercial flash multi-touch projects?
Hi Jason, As I understand it, some multitouch systems (no idea about MS!) use a process to track and broadcast multitouch data to listeners on a socket. There'd be nothing stop AS3 reading data from that socket, presumably... or (I guess) some container app interpreting the socket data and passing it to Flash via ExternalInterface or some other means... You wouldn't be able to use standard mouse events. Ian On 6/4/07, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Curious, how are multi-touch events handled with Flash? Currently isn't even remotely possible is it? Or maybe with an ActiveX wrapper of some kind? Jason Merrill Bank of America GT&O Learning & Leadership Development eTools & Multimedia Team >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>Of Josh Santangelo >>Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:17 PM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: [Flashcoders] commercial flash multi-touch projects? >> >>Hello list -- this may be OT or rule-breaking, but please >>don't kill me over it. I did a bit of work on the MS Surface >>project on a temporary basis and had a great time with it >>(see endquote.com for some info). Unfortunately due to some >>technology decisions in the group, Flash devs are not really >>needed anymore. I'd love to do more multi-touch work, but am >>not sure who's doing work in this area combined with Flash. >> >>If anyone is involved in or aware of projects in this area in >>need of dev help, I'd love to hear about it. >> >>thanks, >>-josh >>___ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com >> ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] commercial flash multi-touch projects?
I'm answering despite not knowing really anything about how the technology works - but as the Microsoft Surface links got passed around a few days ago, one of the links was a DIY multi touch table. I only skimmed the forum link really, but it had some screen shots of the fingers being pressed on the glass and the area where the fingers were looked like blobs (hence they were talking about blob detection algorithms). I think they were using some kind of camera to point up at the table to detect where the finger blobs were. If some kind of video camera that can work with flash can do whatever optically it needs to do, and AS3 is fast enough to perform whatever blob detection algorithms they need, then it's very much possible in flash. But you know, those are big ifs. aren't they? ben Merrill, Jason wrote: Curious, how are multi-touch events handled with Flash? Currently isn't even remotely possible is it? Or maybe with an ActiveX wrapper of some kind? Jason Merrill Bank of America GT&O Learning & Leadership Development eTools & Multimedia Team -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Santangelo Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:17 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] commercial flash multi-touch projects? Hello list -- this may be OT or rule-breaking, but please don't kill me over it. I did a bit of work on the MS Surface project on a temporary basis and had a great time with it (see endquote.com for some info). Unfortunately due to some technology decisions in the group, Flash devs are not really needed anymore. I'd love to do more multi-touch work, but am not sure who's doing work in this area combined with Flash. If anyone is involved in or aware of projects in this area in need of dev help, I'd love to hear about it. thanks, -josh ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] commercial flash multi-touch projects?
Curious, how are multi-touch events handled with Flash? Currently isn't even remotely possible is it? Or maybe with an ActiveX wrapper of some kind? Jason Merrill Bank of America GT&O Learning & Leadership Development eTools & Multimedia Team >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>Of Josh Santangelo >>Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:17 PM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: [Flashcoders] commercial flash multi-touch projects? >> >>Hello list -- this may be OT or rule-breaking, but please >>don't kill me over it. I did a bit of work on the MS Surface >>project on a temporary basis and had a great time with it >>(see endquote.com for some info). Unfortunately due to some >>technology decisions in the group, Flash devs are not really >>needed anymore. I'd love to do more multi-touch work, but am >>not sure who's doing work in this area combined with Flash. >> >>If anyone is involved in or aware of projects in this area in >>need of dev help, I'd love to hear about it. >> >>thanks, >>-josh >>___ >>Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com >>To change your subscription options or search the archive: >>http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders >> >>Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software >>Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training >>http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com >> ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] commercial flash multi-touch projects?
Hello list -- this may be OT or rule-breaking, but please don't kill me over it. I did a bit of work on the MS Surface project on a temporary basis and had a great time with it (see endquote.com for some info). Unfortunately due to some technology decisions in the group, Flash devs are not really needed anymore. I'd love to do more multi-touch work, but am not sure who's doing work in this area combined with Flash. If anyone is involved in or aware of projects in this area in need of dev help, I'd love to hear about it. thanks, -josh ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
