Re: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

2007-04-24 Thread allandt

super-useful guys, thankyou

how secure is this? are there any passwords or seller account details  
sent by flash to paypal?


Quoting Jordan Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


That was helpful John!

FYI, it seems your Google Checkout code is broken!


Cheers

On 4/23/07, John Hattan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You don't need any third-party API's to talk to paypal. Since the   
paypal site accepts standard GET and POST CGI data, sending a   
transaction to Paypal can be done by setting up a LoadVars object,   
setting the parameters to your shopping cart in the object, then   
sending that LoadVars object to PayPal's little processor at   
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr


(note that there's apparently a long-standing bug in Flash's   
POST-handler, so I just use GET. It makes for ugly URL's, but it   
works)


As for doing back-end processing from Paypal (i.e. being notified   
that somebody bought something and you need to act on that   
purchase), google for IPN, which is Paypal's spec for creating   
and acting on transactions. Paypal's got good sample code in   
several server-side languages along with developer forums and a   
sandbox (i.e. a fake paypal where you can test your code without   
spending real money).


The process basically goes like this. . .

1. You send your shopping cart data to paypal (either from Flash or  
 some other browser-based shopping-cart solution)

2. The user is sent to paypal where he pays for the transaction.
3. Paypal contacts some server-side code telling you that somebody   
bought something.
4. You verify the transaction with paypal (to make sure you're not   
being spoofed)
5. If verified, do whatever's necessary to complete the   
transaction, like email the user a download link.


Here's my little shopping-cart. Note that it also talks to Google   
Checkout, which has a few more steps but is otherwise similar.


http://www.thecodezone.com/buy.html



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Subject: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

i'm going to be producing a site which sells some exclusive, single
and multiple (ie shopping cart) products which i'd like to do in flash.

the client wants to use paypal to begin with (it's a startup).

Does anyone have any experience with using flash with paypal? Can you
recommend any good tutorial sites or 3rd party api's?

Hope you guys can help

thanks
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Re: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

2007-04-24 Thread John Hattan
Yes it is. That's what happens when you make minor code changes without testing 
'em. It's working now if you want to try it again.

- Original Message 
From: Jordan Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:19:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

That was helpful John!

FYI, it seems your Google Checkout code is broken!


Cheers

On 4/23/07, John Hattan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You don't need any third-party API's to talk to paypal. Since the paypal site 
 accepts standard GET and POST CGI data, sending a transaction to Paypal can 
 be done by setting up a LoadVars object, setting the parameters to your 
 shopping cart in the object, then sending that LoadVars object to PayPal's 
 little processor at https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr

 (note that there's apparently a long-standing bug in Flash's POST-handler, so 
 I just use GET. It makes for ugly URL's, but it works)

 As for doing back-end processing from Paypal (i.e. being notified that 
 somebody bought something and you need to act on that purchase), google for 
 IPN, which is Paypal's spec for creating and acting on transactions. 
 Paypal's got good sample code in several server-side languages along with 
 developer forums and a sandbox (i.e. a fake paypal where you can test your 
 code without spending real money).

 The process basically goes like this. . .

 1. You send your shopping cart data to paypal (either from Flash or some 
 other browser-based shopping-cart solution)
 2. The user is sent to paypal where he pays for the transaction.
 3. Paypal contacts some server-side code telling you that somebody bought 
 something.
 4. You verify the transaction with paypal (to make sure you're not being 
 spoofed)
 5. If verified, do whatever's necessary to complete the transaction, like 
 email the user a download link.

 Here's my little shopping-cart. Note that it also talks to Google Checkout, 
 which has a few more steps but is otherwise similar.

 http://www.thecodezone.com/buy.html



 - Original Message 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 11:23:40 AM
 Subject: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

 i'm going to be producing a site which sells some exclusive, single
 and multiple (ie shopping cart) products which i'd like to do in flash.

 the client wants to use paypal to begin with (it's a startup).

 Does anyone have any experience with using flash with paypal? Can you
 recommend any good tutorial sites or 3rd party api's?

 Hope you guys can help

 thanks
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Re: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

2007-04-24 Thread John Hattan
You don't send passwords to paypal. Just the transaction details (item
numbers, quantities, and prices) and your paypal address. The user enters all 
the secure stuff on the paypal site so you don't have to mess with that. The 
transaction you get from paypal only includes the user's info (name, email, and 
snailmail address) and details about the transaction (items purchased, 
quantities, and price). There's no way for me to sneakily charge extra money 
from one of my buyers' accounts.

As for security the other way (i.e. people faking a purchase to you), there's a 
verify step. When paypal first contacts you to tell you that somebody bought 
something, they send you a key, which is a big string of random characters. You 
send this key to Paypal's verification-server, and it sends you back a 
VERIFIED or NOT VERIFIED. If you get a VERIFIED, then you can be sure 
that the transaction came from Paypal.

Again, the sample-code takes care of all of this. Most of your paypal solution 
will involve downloading their sample code in your favorite server language 
(PHP, Perl, CF, etc) and modifying it to serve your needs.


Google checkout is similar, security-wise, although it's entirely XML-based and 
requires an encrypted connection so you can't talk to it directly from Flash 
(at least not easily). In my case, I talk to a little piece of PHP on my site 
that sends the transaction to Google Checkout, because PHP has all the 
secure-connection stuff built in.

One nice thing Google Checkout adds is that buyers can hide their emails from 
sellers. I've gotten a couple of these with game purchases. Instead of the 
user's real email address, I get something like [EMAIL PROTECTED]. This email 
forwards to the buyer, but only for a limited time. That way buyers don't have 
to worry about getting spammed by sellers after the fact.



- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 4:42:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

super-useful guys, thankyou

how secure is this? are there any passwords or seller account details  
sent by flash to paypal?

Quoting Jordan Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 That was helpful John!

 FYI, it seems your Google Checkout code is broken!


 Cheers

 On 4/23/07, John Hattan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You don't need any third-party API's to talk to paypal. Since the   
 paypal site accepts standard GET and POST CGI data, sending a   
 transaction to Paypal can be done by setting up a LoadVars object,   
 setting the parameters to your shopping cart in the object, then   
 sending that LoadVars object to PayPal's little processor at   
 https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr

 (note that there's apparently a long-standing bug in Flash's   
 POST-handler, so I just use GET. It makes for ugly URL's, but it   
 works)

 As for doing back-end processing from Paypal (i.e. being notified   
 that somebody bought something and you need to act on that   
 purchase), google for IPN, which is Paypal's spec for creating   
 and acting on transactions. Paypal's got good sample code in   
 several server-side languages along with developer forums and a   
 sandbox (i.e. a fake paypal where you can test your code without   
 spending real money).

 The process basically goes like this. . .

 1. You send your shopping cart data to paypal (either from Flash or  
  some other browser-based shopping-cart solution)
 2. The user is sent to paypal where he pays for the transaction.
 3. Paypal contacts some server-side code telling you that somebody   
 bought something.
 4. You verify the transaction with paypal (to make sure you're not   
 being spoofed)
 5. If verified, do whatever's necessary to complete the   
 transaction, like email the user a download link.

 Here's my little shopping-cart. Note that it also talks to Google   
 Checkout, which has a few more steps but is otherwise similar.

 http://www.thecodezone.com/buy.html



 - Original Message 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 11:23:40 AM
 Subject: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

 i'm going to be producing a site which sells some exclusive, single
 and multiple (ie shopping cart) products which i'd like to do in flash.

 the client wants to use paypal to begin with (it's a startup).

 Does anyone have any experience with using flash with paypal? Can you
 recommend any good tutorial sites or 3rd party api's?

 Hope you guys can help

 thanks
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Re: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

2007-04-24 Thread allandt

thanks guys. You've been amazingly helpful

3 flashcoders

Quoting John Hattan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


You don't send passwords to paypal. Just the transaction details (item
numbers, quantities, and prices) and your paypal address. The user   
enters all the secure stuff on the paypal site so you don't have to   
mess with that. The transaction you get from paypal only includes   
the user's info (name, email, and snailmail address) and details   
about the transaction (items purchased, quantities, and price).   
There's no way for me to sneakily charge extra money from one of my   
buyers' accounts.


As for security the other way (i.e. people faking a purchase to   
you), there's a verify step. When paypal first contacts you to tell   
you that somebody bought something, they send you a key, which is a   
big string of random characters. You send this key to Paypal's   
verification-server, and it sends you back a VERIFIED or NOT   
VERIFIED. If you get a VERIFIED, then you can be sure that the   
transaction came from Paypal.


Again, the sample-code takes care of all of this. Most of your   
paypal solution will involve downloading their sample code in your   
favorite server language (PHP, Perl, CF, etc) and modifying it to   
serve your needs.



Google checkout is similar, security-wise, although it's entirely   
XML-based and requires an encrypted connection so you can't talk to   
it directly from Flash (at least not easily). In my case, I talk to   
a little piece of PHP on my site that sends the transaction to   
Google Checkout, because PHP has all the secure-connection stuff   
built in.


One nice thing Google Checkout adds is that buyers can hide their   
emails from sellers. I've gotten a couple of these with game   
purchases. Instead of the user's real email address, I get something  
 like [EMAIL PROTECTED]. This email  
forwards  to the buyer, but only for a limited time. That way buyers  
don't  have to worry about getting spammed by sellers after the fact.




- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 4:42:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

super-useful guys, thankyou

how secure is this? are there any passwords or seller account details
sent by flash to paypal?

Quoting Jordan Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


That was helpful John!

FYI, it seems your Google Checkout code is broken!


Cheers

On 4/23/07, John Hattan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You don't need any third-party API's to talk to paypal. Since the
paypal site accepts standard GET and POST CGI data, sending a
transaction to Paypal can be done by setting up a LoadVars object,
setting the parameters to your shopping cart in the object, then
sending that LoadVars object to PayPal's little processor at
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr

(note that there's apparently a long-standing bug in Flash's
POST-handler, so I just use GET. It makes for ugly URL's, but it
works)

As for doing back-end processing from Paypal (i.e. being notified
that somebody bought something and you need to act on that
purchase), google for IPN, which is Paypal's spec for creating
and acting on transactions. Paypal's got good sample code in
several server-side languages along with developer forums and a
sandbox (i.e. a fake paypal where you can test your code without
spending real money).

The process basically goes like this. . .

1. You send your shopping cart data to paypal (either from Flash or
 some other browser-based shopping-cart solution)
2. The user is sent to paypal where he pays for the transaction.
3. Paypal contacts some server-side code telling you that somebody
bought something.
4. You verify the transaction with paypal (to make sure you're not
being spoofed)
5. If verified, do whatever's necessary to complete the
transaction, like email the user a download link.

Here's my little shopping-cart. Note that it also talks to Google
Checkout, which has a few more steps but is otherwise similar.

http://www.thecodezone.com/buy.html



- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 11:23:40 AM
Subject: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

i'm going to be producing a site which sells some exclusive, single
and multiple (ie shopping cart) products which i'd like to do in flash.

the client wants to use paypal to begin with (it's a startup).

Does anyone have any experience with using flash with paypal? Can you
recommend any good tutorial sites or 3rd party api's?

Hope you guys can help

thanks
a
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[Flashcoders] flash and paypal

2007-04-23 Thread allandt
i'm going to be producing a site which sells some exclusive, single  
and multiple (ie shopping cart) products which i'd like to do in flash.


the client wants to use paypal to begin with (it's a startup).

Does anyone have any experience with using flash with paypal? Can you  
recommend any good tutorial sites or 3rd party api's?


Hope you guys can help

thanks
a
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Re: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

2007-04-23 Thread Helmut Granda

Have you gone to PayPal? I think they have a free component and tutorials on
how to tie PayPal and Flash.

On 4/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


i'm going to be producing a site which sells some exclusive, single
and multiple (ie shopping cart) products which i'd like to do in flash.

the client wants to use paypal to begin with (it's a startup).

Does anyone have any experience with using flash with paypal? Can you
recommend any good tutorial sites or 3rd party api's?

Hope you guys can help

thanks
a
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Re: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

2007-04-23 Thread Steven Sacks
You link off to PayPal just like you do with an HTML link?  PayPal has 
their own forms.

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Re: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

2007-04-23 Thread John Hattan
You don't need any third-party API's to talk to paypal. Since the paypal site 
accepts standard GET and POST CGI data, sending a transaction to Paypal can be 
done by setting up a LoadVars object, setting the parameters to your shopping 
cart in the object, then sending that LoadVars object to PayPal's little 
processor at https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr

(note that there's apparently a long-standing bug in Flash's POST-handler, so I 
just use GET. It makes for ugly URL's, but it works)

As for doing back-end processing from Paypal (i.e. being notified that somebody 
bought something and you need to act on that purchase), google for IPN, which 
is Paypal's spec for creating and acting on transactions. Paypal's got good 
sample code in several server-side languages along with developer forums and a 
sandbox (i.e. a fake paypal where you can test your code without spending 
real money).

The process basically goes like this. . .

1. You send your shopping cart data to paypal (either from Flash or some other 
browser-based shopping-cart solution)
2. The user is sent to paypal where he pays for the transaction.
3. Paypal contacts some server-side code telling you that somebody bought 
something.
4. You verify the transaction with paypal (to make sure you're not being 
spoofed)
5. If verified, do whatever's necessary to complete the transaction, like email 
the user a download link.

Here's my little shopping-cart. Note that it also talks to Google Checkout, 
which has a few more steps but is otherwise similar.

http://www.thecodezone.com/buy.html



- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 11:23:40 AM
Subject: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

i'm going to be producing a site which sells some exclusive, single  
and multiple (ie shopping cart) products which i'd like to do in flash.

the client wants to use paypal to begin with (it's a startup).

Does anyone have any experience with using flash with paypal? Can you  
recommend any good tutorial sites or 3rd party api's?

Hope you guys can help

thanks
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Re: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

2007-04-23 Thread Jordan Snyder

That was helpful John!

FYI, it seems your Google Checkout code is broken!


Cheers

On 4/23/07, John Hattan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You don't need any third-party API's to talk to paypal. Since the paypal site 
accepts standard GET and POST CGI data, sending a transaction to Paypal can be 
done by setting up a LoadVars object, setting the parameters to your shopping 
cart in the object, then sending that LoadVars object to PayPal's little 
processor at https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr

(note that there's apparently a long-standing bug in Flash's POST-handler, so I 
just use GET. It makes for ugly URL's, but it works)

As for doing back-end processing from Paypal (i.e. being notified that somebody bought something 
and you need to act on that purchase), google for IPN, which is Paypal's spec for 
creating and acting on transactions. Paypal's got good sample code in several server-side languages 
along with developer forums and a sandbox (i.e. a fake paypal where you can test your 
code without spending real money).

The process basically goes like this. . .

1. You send your shopping cart data to paypal (either from Flash or some other 
browser-based shopping-cart solution)
2. The user is sent to paypal where he pays for the transaction.
3. Paypal contacts some server-side code telling you that somebody bought 
something.
4. You verify the transaction with paypal (to make sure you're not being 
spoofed)
5. If verified, do whatever's necessary to complete the transaction, like email 
the user a download link.

Here's my little shopping-cart. Note that it also talks to Google Checkout, 
which has a few more steps but is otherwise similar.

http://www.thecodezone.com/buy.html



- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 11:23:40 AM
Subject: [Flashcoders] flash and paypal

i'm going to be producing a site which sells some exclusive, single
and multiple (ie shopping cart) products which i'd like to do in flash.

the client wants to use paypal to begin with (it's a startup).

Does anyone have any experience with using flash with paypal? Can you
recommend any good tutorial sites or 3rd party api's?

Hope you guys can help

thanks
a
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