Re: [Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-29 Thread John McCormack

I will be buying it shortly. It's a great product.

I was interested to see that you mentioned FDT on the blog.

Does FDT offer significant coding enhancements as an IDE?

John

co...@moock.org wrote:
i didn't see anyone post an announcement about fb4 to flashcoders, so 
i figure it's worth spreading the news a bit. here's my take on the 
new version:


http://www.moock.org/blog/archives/000300.html

and i guess i should check: dave do you mind posts about actionscript 
ide releases (fdt, flashdevelop, fb, etc) on flashcoders?


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Re: [Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-29 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
also does it include some of the great shortcut stuff from fdt and fd like
the shortcuts for creating methods or jumping to a method / variable
implementation from it's usage which fb3 was sorely missing?

a


On 29 March 2010 09:51, John McCormack j...@easypeasy.co.uk wrote:

 I will be buying it shortly. It's a great product.

 I was interested to see that you mentioned FDT on the blog.

 Does FDT offer significant coding enhancements as an IDE?

 John


 co...@moock.org wrote:

 i didn't see anyone post an announcement about fb4 to flashcoders, so i
 figure it's worth spreading the news a bit. here's my take on the new
 version:

 http://www.moock.org/blog/archives/000300.html

 and i guess i should check: dave do you mind posts about actionscript ide
 releases (fdt, flashdevelop, fb, etc) on flashcoders?

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Re: [Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-29 Thread Ruben Sainz
Why FB4 support Flex-Air project but donĀ“t Action Script- Air project?


2010/3/29 allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) alla...@gmail.com

 also does it include some of the great shortcut stuff from fdt and fd like
 the shortcuts for creating methods or jumping to a method / variable
 implementation from it's usage which fb3 was sorely missing?

 a


 On 29 March 2010 09:51, John McCormack j...@easypeasy.co.uk wrote:

  I will be buying it shortly. It's a great product.
 
  I was interested to see that you mentioned FDT on the blog.
 
  Does FDT offer significant coding enhancements as an IDE?
 
  John
 
 
  co...@moock.org wrote:
 
  i didn't see anyone post an announcement about fb4 to flashcoders, so i
  figure it's worth spreading the news a bit. here's my take on the new
  version:
 
  http://www.moock.org/blog/archives/000300.html
 
  and i guess i should check: dave do you mind posts about actionscript
 ide
  releases (fdt, flashdevelop, fb, etc) on flashcoders?
 
  colin
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Re: [Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-29 Thread co...@moock.org
i'm not a full-time fdt user, but i think it's commonly accepted that 
fdt's actionscript editing assistants are still better than fb4. see:


http://www.fdt.powerflasher.com/developer-tools/fdt-3/whats-new/new-quick-fixes/
http://www.fdt.powerflasher.com/developer-tools/fdt-3/features/unique-features/

colin

John McCormack wrote:

I will be buying it shortly. It's a great product.

I was interested to see that you mentioned FDT on the blog.

Does FDT offer significant coding enhancements as an IDE?

John

co...@moock.org wrote:
i didn't see anyone post an announcement about fb4 to flashcoders, so 
i figure it's worth spreading the news a bit. here's my take on the 
new version:


http://www.moock.org/blog/archives/000300.html

and i guess i should check: dave do you mind posts about actionscript 
ide releases (fdt, flashdevelop, fb, etc) on flashcoders?


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Re: [Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-29 Thread co...@moock.org

creating a method from a usage: sadly, still no.

navigating to a method from its usage: if i understand what you're 
referring to correctly, that feature was in fb3 and is in fb4 too. mouse 
over the method name and press the command key to bring up a hyperlink 
to the method definition. command+[ will take you back to the last edit 
location.


another set of eclipse shortcuts i couldn't live without:
 command+uparrow: move a line up
 command+downarrow: move a line down
 command+shift+uparrow: duplicate a line up
 command+shift+downarrow: duplicate a line down

that's in fb3/4, and i assume it's in fdt too as they're both based on 
eclipse, but i don't know for sure.


colin

allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote:

also does it include some of the great shortcut stuff from fdt and fd like
the shortcuts for creating methods or jumping to a method / variable
implementation from it's usage which fb3 was sorely missing?

a


On 29 March 2010 09:51, John McCormack j...@easypeasy.co.uk wrote:


I will be buying it shortly. It's a great product.

I was interested to see that you mentioned FDT on the blog.

Does FDT offer significant coding enhancements as an IDE?

John


co...@moock.org wrote:


i didn't see anyone post an announcement about fb4 to flashcoders, so i
figure it's worth spreading the news a bit. here's my take on the new
version:

http://www.moock.org/blog/archives/000300.html

and i guess i should check: dave do you mind posts about actionscript ide
releases (fdt, flashdevelop, fb, etc) on flashcoders?

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Re: [Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-29 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
yeh - transposing and duplicating lines are massive for me in fd

a

On 29 March 2010 14:23, co...@moock.org co...@moock.org wrote:

 creating a method from a usage: sadly, still no.

 navigating to a method from its usage: if i understand what you're
 referring to correctly, that feature was in fb3 and is in fb4 too. mouse
 over the method name and press the command key to bring up a hyperlink to
 the method definition. command+[ will take you back to the last edit
 location.

 another set of eclipse shortcuts i couldn't live without:
  command+uparrow: move a line up
  command+downarrow: move a line down
  command+shift+uparrow: duplicate a line up
  command+shift+downarrow: duplicate a line down

 that's in fb3/4, and i assume it's in fdt too as they're both based on
 eclipse, but i don't know for sure.

 colin


 allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote:

 also does it include some of the great shortcut stuff from fdt and fd like
 the shortcuts for creating methods or jumping to a method / variable
 implementation from it's usage which fb3 was sorely missing?

 a


 On 29 March 2010 09:51, John McCormack j...@easypeasy.co.uk wrote:

  I will be buying it shortly. It's a great product.

 I was interested to see that you mentioned FDT on the blog.

 Does FDT offer significant coding enhancements as an IDE?

 John


 co...@moock.org wrote:

  i didn't see anyone post an announcement about fb4 to flashcoders, so i
 figure it's worth spreading the news a bit. here's my take on the new
 version:

 http://www.moock.org/blog/archives/000300.html

 and i guess i should check: dave do you mind posts about actionscript
 ide
 releases (fdt, flashdevelop, fb, etc) on flashcoders?

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Re: [Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-29 Thread co...@moock.org

ps.
for those using fb4, it looks like sourcemate offers a potential 
workaround for many of the missing editing assistants:


http://www.elementriver.com/sourcemate/features/

colin

co...@moock.org wrote:
i'm not a full-time fdt user, but i think it's commonly accepted that 
fdt's actionscript editing assistants are still better than fb4. see:


http://www.fdt.powerflasher.com/developer-tools/fdt-3/whats-new/new-quick-fixes/ 

http://www.fdt.powerflasher.com/developer-tools/fdt-3/features/unique-features/ 



colin

John McCormack wrote:

I will be buying it shortly. It's a great product.

I was interested to see that you mentioned FDT on the blog.

Does FDT offer significant coding enhancements as an IDE?

John

co...@moock.org wrote:
i didn't see anyone post an announcement about fb4 to flashcoders, so 
i figure it's worth spreading the news a bit. here's my take on the 
new version:


http://www.moock.org/blog/archives/000300.html

and i guess i should check: dave do you mind posts about actionscript 
ide releases (fdt, flashdevelop, fb, etc) on flashcoders?


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Re: [Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-29 Thread co...@moock.org

I've just started working with FB4 in the past couple of weeks, and I
love it. I think Adobe got it right. Well, except for the help system.
I keep the CS4 Flash help open for my AS3 reference.

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have you seen the new ActionScript 3.0 unified reference?

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FlashPlatform//reference/actionscript/3/class-summary.html

it's faster, and has a bunch of improvements over the old online reference.

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Re: [Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-29 Thread Zeh Fernando
They are.

In FDT, with the caret on a method/property/reference, F3 takes you to the
definition. F4 in a reference takes you straight to the class. The
ctrl+cursor thing also works, but in all honesty I seldom use it. Back to
the last edited location is ctrl+q.

Zeh

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:23 AM, co...@moock.org co...@moock.org wrote:

 creating a method from a usage: sadly, still no.

 navigating to a method from its usage: if i understand what you're
 referring to correctly, that feature was in fb3 and is in fb4 too. mouse
 over the method name and press the command key to bring up a hyperlink to
 the method definition. command+[ will take you back to the last edit
 location.

 another set of eclipse shortcuts i couldn't live without:
  command+uparrow: move a line up
  command+downarrow: move a line down
  command+shift+uparrow: duplicate a line up
  command+shift+downarrow: duplicate a line down

 that's in fb3/4, and i assume it's in fdt too as they're both based on
 eclipse, but i don't know for sure.

 colin


 allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote:

 also does it include some of the great shortcut stuff from fdt and fd like
 the shortcuts for creating methods or jumping to a method / variable
 implementation from it's usage which fb3 was sorely missing?

 a


 On 29 March 2010 09:51, John McCormack j...@easypeasy.co.uk wrote:

  I will be buying it shortly. It's a great product.

 I was interested to see that you mentioned FDT on the blog.

 Does FDT offer significant coding enhancements as an IDE?

 John


 co...@moock.org wrote:

  i didn't see anyone post an announcement about fb4 to flashcoders, so i
 figure it's worth spreading the news a bit. here's my take on the new
 version:

 http://www.moock.org/blog/archives/000300.html

 and i guess i should check: dave do you mind posts about actionscript
 ide
 releases (fdt, flashdevelop, fb, etc) on flashcoders?

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Re: [Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-29 Thread Kerry Thompson
Zeh Fernando wrote:

 In FDT, with the caret on a method/property/reference, F3 takes you to the
 definition. F4 in a reference takes you straight to the class. The
 ctrl+cursor thing also works, but in all honesty I seldom use it. Back to
 the last edited location is ctrl+q.

FlashBuilder 4 has a really nice bookmarking feature in it (I don't
believe it was in FB3). It's a big time saver when you jump around in
your code like I do.

Cordially,

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Re: [Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-29 Thread Eric E. Dolecki
Indeed it's great - is there a key combo to cycle through the bookmarks? I
haven't found that yet.

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Kerry Thompson al...@cyberiantiger.bizwrote:

 Zeh Fernando wrote:

  In FDT, with the caret on a method/property/reference, F3 takes you to
 the
  definition. F4 in a reference takes you straight to the class. The
  ctrl+cursor thing also works, but in all honesty I seldom use it. Back to
  the last edited location is ctrl+q.

 FlashBuilder 4 has a really nice bookmarking feature in it (I don't
 believe it was in FB3). It's a big time saver when you jump around in
 your code like I do.

 Cordially,

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Re: [Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-29 Thread Kerry Thompson
 Eric E. Dolecki wrote:

 Indeed it's great - is there a key combo to cycle through the bookmarks? I
 haven't found that yet.

Not that I know of. Here's a link to the Adobe page that describes it:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Flex/4.0/UsingFlashBuilder/WS6f97d7caa66ef6eb1e63e3d11b6c4d0d21-7fcd.html.

Changing the subject slightly, I griped about the new FB4 help (and I
still don't like it). Adobe have taken a step in the right direction,
though--they have developers moderating the comments on some of their
help pages. I'm not an Adobe employee or contractor, but I am a
moderator for one of their online help topics (not Flash or Flex, but
I would hope they also have developers moderating those).

I'm perhaps a bit more likely to let a snarky comment live than and
Adobe employee. I can also answer questions when appropriate--Adobe
people are good people, but their moderators aren't always the ones
using the product every day.

Cordially,

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RE: [Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-29 Thread Karina Steffens
Thanks Colin, I put that link in my bookmarks. So far, I found the AS3
online documentation less than ideal - if you search for anything from the
Flash IDE, you might as well be using Google.

Karina 

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  I've just started working with FB4 in the past couple of weeks, and I
  love it. I think Adobe got it right. Well, except for the help
 system.
  I keep the CS4 Flash help open for my AS3 reference.
 --
 have you seen the new ActionScript 3.0 unified reference?
 
 http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FlashPlatform//reference/actionscript/3/cla
 ss-summary.html
 
 it's faster, and has a bunch of improvements over the old online
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Re: [Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-28 Thread Dave Watts
 and i guess i should check: dave do you mind posts about actionscript ide
 releases (fdt, flashdevelop, fb, etc) on flashcoders?

Not at all!

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Re: [Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-28 Thread Kerry Thompson
Colin Moock  wrote:

 i didn't see anyone post an announcement about fb4 to flashcoders, so i
 figure it's worth spreading the news a bit. here's my take on the new
 version:

 http://www.moock.org/blog/archives/000300.html

I've just started working with FB4 in the past couple of weeks, and I
love it. I think Adobe got it right. Well, except for the help system.
I keep the CS4 Flash help open for my AS3 reference.

It did take the better part of the day to get it set up and
configured, but that included installing Subclipse and a VPN
connection. It would have taken a lot longer if Mark Jonkman hadn't
been around to take me through the process step by step.

Cordially,

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[Flashcoders] flash builder 4 released

2010-03-27 Thread co...@moock.org
i didn't see anyone post an announcement about fb4 to flashcoders, so i 
figure it's worth spreading the news a bit. here's my take on the new 
version:


http://www.moock.org/blog/archives/000300.html

and i guess i should check: dave do you mind posts about actionscript 
ide releases (fdt, flashdevelop, fb, etc) on flashcoders?


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