Re: [Flashcoders] if only flash would incorporate these features

2009-05-08 Thread Anthony Pace
I just noticed this dude has a couple pending patents; yet, when I think 
about this, I am not so sure I see anything much I would consider 
patentable.


The only things I can think of that are patentable are the gestures, 
some interface elements and features reliant on timing and distance; 
for, I remember way back in 2004, when I was using lightwave, there was 
a script that allowed you to draw a curve spline as a line, and than 
have the mirror of it on the other side of the axis you select.


The math isn't new, variations for drawing a curves isn't new, joint 
estimation joint grouping in a 3d application isn't new, but making an 
application that did all of it together is; thus, if someone were to 
make an application that did the same thing, but with different 
interface elements, drawing gestures,  and time related features, as 
well as allow the user to opt-in for functionality and provide gesture 
recognition customization capability, the developer should be able to 
avoid legal trouble.


Good work, but not so unique his patents should hold developers back 
from taking it ten steps further.



Merrill, Jason wrote:

That's awesome!  Major time saver and very Star Trek.  Thanks for the
link, I Tweeted and Facebook'ed it.


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RE: [Flashcoders] if only flash would incorporate these features

2009-05-08 Thread Kerry Thompson
Anthony Pace wrote:

 Good work, but not so unique his patents should hold developers back
 from taking it ten steps further.

You may be right--I hope you are--but I have ceased to try to understand
U.S. patent law. If a company can patent an *idea* like plug-ins, and force
companies like Microsoft to pay up and/or use other technology, who knows
what can be patented?

rantPatent law is supposed to encourage innovation. The way it's being
used, at least in America these days, *discourages* innovation. Anybody with
a two-bit idea can patent it, and the onus is on others to prove prior art.
Copyright law is going the same way. In a twisted sense, I have some
sympathy for China and other countries that ignore intellectual-property
laws./rant

Cordially,

Kerry Thompson

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Re: [Flashcoders] if only flash would incorporate these features

2009-05-08 Thread Anthony Pace
*Example 1:* look at flash's line smoothing capability and how when two 
lines overlap new joints are made; this makes it so the curve drawing 
and intercept capability is not patentable because it was done before, 
and a developer would be doing is applying it along a 3d plane.


*Example 2:* look at a number of 2d and 3d applications and their 
ability to flip paths and pixels along an axis; showing that mirroring 
is recognized as being public domain.


*Example 3:* look at nurb surface modelling math or math for bezier 
curves; his math is not unique, so curve approximation via math cannot 
be patented.*

*
The only thing I am worried about is that the flipping and intersects 
are done *automatically*, and that his *gestures* may be seen as new.

.



Kerry Thompson wrote:

Anthony Pace wrote:

  

Good work, but not so unique his patents should hold developers back
from taking it ten steps further.



You may be right--I hope you are--but I have ceased to try to understand
U.S. patent law. If a company can patent an *idea* like plug-ins, and force
companies like Microsoft to pay up and/or use other technology, who knows
what can be patented?

rantPatent law is supposed to encourage innovation. The way it's being
used, at least in America these days, *discourages* innovation. Anybody with
a two-bit idea can patent it, and the onus is on others to prove prior art.
Copyright law is going the same way. In a twisted sense, I have some
sympathy for China and other countries that ignore intellectual-property
laws./rant

Cordially,

Kerry Thompson

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[Flashcoders] if only flash would incorporate these features

2009-05-07 Thread Anthony Pace

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Re: [Flashcoders] if only flash would incorporate these features

2009-05-07 Thread Pedro Kostelec
Impressive. But we're gonna have to wait a lot before such think comes to
Flash. First it will be introduced in 3D packages i guess. Such a thing
could make me like 3D modeling.
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RE: [Flashcoders] if only flash would incorporate these features

2009-05-07 Thread Merrill, Jason
That's awesome!  Major time saver and very Star Trek.  Thanks for the
link, I Tweeted and Facebook'ed it.


Jason Merrill 

Bank of  America   Global Learning 
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