RE: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

2006-06-03 Thread Bernard Visscher
Hi,

IMO the only way to export all styles, like bold, italic etc is to have a
textfield on stage which embeds the font.
The textfield has to have HTML-render, and you have to type a letter (or
something like that) in all the styles you need.
So something like:
Regular
bbold/b
iitalic/i

Now the font is available in all the styles and will work if you set a
dynamic field to render as HTML.

Bernard

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Bummer, well if you have any luck let me know.

Jim

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No... In fact it seems to fail entirely if you turn on Render Text as Html
for the text field.  I'll have to research this more another day.

-tom

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Taking this back to the original point, did you ever get one font embedded
that has plain, bold, italic  bold italic symbols so if you have a html
text field with all of those styles inside it will display correctly?

I have never managed to do this  would like to know if its possible. I have
no trouble using shared assets movie clips, fonts, sounds etc its just this
one last thing that would make me very happy.

Jim

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If you want to do run-time embed rather than author-time embed, you follow
the exact same procedure, except that the linkage for your font library
would be Export for runtime sharing instead of Export for ActionScript.
I tried it with a really complex font called JokerMan and my resulting
filesizes were 44KB for fontLibrary.swf and just 124 bytes for fontTest.swf
(the consuming swf).

-tom

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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)


 I hope that I don't insult your intelligence by referring you to a 
 TechNote.
 But, by following the steps as shown at
 http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14786 I was 
 able
 to use a shared font successfully in Flash 8.  It sounds as if you may be
 taking some unnecessary steps: for example, you shouldn't need to include
 any text fields in your sharedfonts.fla.  Also, make sure that you follow
 the method of Open As Library as described in the TechNote.  (In Flash 
 8,
 this is File  Import  Open External Library).  Setting the library font 
 to
 a different font may in fact be causing a problem - I would suggest 
 instead
 testing with wingdings or some other crazy font so you can know for sure
 it's working.

Okay, this works, thanks for that. But it makes no sense to me. The two 
files are both about 20k, so they can't contain the font outlines. So in 
what sense is this font embedded? As far as I can see, what this is doing is

linking to a font named Arial, but someone without Arial on their system 
won't see it. (it does have the advantage that if I want to globally change 
the font, I just do it in one place, but that's all). So how can I embed the

actual font outlines in the way I do for a local font?

Oh - and incidentally why the hell do I have to select 'export for 
actionScript' instead of 'export for runtime sharing'?!

Danny 

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Re: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

2006-06-02 Thread Danny Kodicek

Continuing this point...

I've done a bit of research and found a couple of questions about this but 
no answers. If I'm using a linked font in Flash, how can I get it to 
correctly assign bold/italic info? That is, I embed Arial four times: 
Plain/Bold/Italic/Bold Italic. Each one has to be brought in as a separate 
font, so somehow when Flash gets a bunch of Arial text, it needs to use 
one font for the bold bits, one for the plain and so on. It's not 
succeeding, which doesn't surprise me. Is there some voodoo?


I've kind of answered my own question: it looks like it works with just a 
single shared font. But I can't quite see what the point is, when I still 
have to embed the font outlines to use them in dynamic text. What I want to 
achieve is a single swf that contains all the outlines I need, and then have 
small filesizes for the other swfs. That's the whole point of using shared 
assets. But I can't seem to find any working way to do this. Am I missing 
the whole idea? I've tried to use shared fonts quite a few times in the past 
and always come up blank.


Danny 


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RE: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

2006-06-02 Thread Tom Lee
I'm a little confused as to what your exact question is... Are you having
trouble getting the bold and italic styles to display properly, or is it an
issue of trying to achieve a preferred methodology?  

-tom 

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Continuing this point...

 I've done a bit of research and found a couple of questions about this but

 no answers. If I'm using a linked font in Flash, how can I get it to 
 correctly assign bold/italic info? That is, I embed Arial four times: 
 Plain/Bold/Italic/Bold Italic. Each one has to be brought in as a separate

 font, so somehow when Flash gets a bunch of Arial text, it needs to use 
 one font for the bold bits, one for the plain and so on. It's not 
 succeeding, which doesn't surprise me. Is there some voodoo?

I've kind of answered my own question: it looks like it works with just a 
single shared font. But I can't quite see what the point is, when I still 
have to embed the font outlines to use them in dynamic text. What I want to 
achieve is a single swf that contains all the outlines I need, and then have

small filesizes for the other swfs. That's the whole point of using shared 
assets. But I can't seem to find any working way to do this. Am I missing 
the whole idea? I've tried to use shared fonts quite a few times in the past

and always come up blank.

Danny 

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Re: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

2006-06-02 Thread Danny Kodicek



I'm a little confused as to what your exact question is... Are you having
trouble getting the bold and italic styles to display properly, or is it 
an

issue of trying to achieve a preferred methodology?


No, I'm really having trouble with the whole shared font, actually. I've 
never managed to achieve this. I've been doing more research while waiting 
for responses, and found a few answers, but it's still not working.


So far, this is what I have (Both movies are in the same folder).:

a movie sharedfonts.fla, which contains a font symbol ArialEmbed. Linkage is 
set to export for sharing, with the url set as sharedfonts.swf.
In this movie, I have four dynamic fields, with their font set to the linked 
font, each of which embeds the full range of characters I want, in the four 
style combinations. This movie has a size of nearly 500k, so it's definitely 
embedding the fonts.


a movie target.fla, which also contains a font symbol ArialEmbed. Linkage is 
set to import, with the url set as sharedfonts.swf. For testing, I've set 
this library font to use a different font (Times), so that I can see if the 
linkage has worked correctly.
In this movie, I have various dynamic fields using the library font, with no 
embedding.


What I expect to happen is that on publish, the target.swf movie should show 
up with the embedded font. Instead, it's showing up with a (very pixellated, 
since it's not embedded) version of the development font.


It looks to me like it's not even talking to the linked font. Am I wrong?

Danny 


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RE: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

2006-06-02 Thread Tom Lee
Danny,

I hope that I don't insult your intelligence by referring you to a TechNote.
But, by following the steps as shown at
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14786 I was able
to use a shared font successfully in Flash 8.  It sounds as if you may be
taking some unnecessary steps: for example, you shouldn't need to include
any text fields in your sharedfonts.fla.  Also, make sure that you follow
the method of Open As Library as described in the TechNote.  (In Flash 8,
this is File  Import  Open External Library).  Setting the library font to
a different font may in fact be causing a problem - I would suggest instead
testing with wingdings or some other crazy font so you can know for sure
it's working.  

-tom

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 I'm a little confused as to what your exact question is... Are you having
 trouble getting the bold and italic styles to display properly, or is it 
 an
 issue of trying to achieve a preferred methodology?

No, I'm really having trouble with the whole shared font, actually. I've 
never managed to achieve this. I've been doing more research while waiting 
for responses, and found a few answers, but it's still not working.

So far, this is what I have (Both movies are in the same folder).:

a movie sharedfonts.fla, which contains a font symbol ArialEmbed. Linkage is

set to export for sharing, with the url set as sharedfonts.swf.
In this movie, I have four dynamic fields, with their font set to the linked

font, each of which embeds the full range of characters I want, in the four 
style combinations. This movie has a size of nearly 500k, so it's definitely

embedding the fonts.

a movie target.fla, which also contains a font symbol ArialEmbed. Linkage is

set to import, with the url set as sharedfonts.swf. For testing, I've set 
this library font to use a different font (Times), so that I can see if the 
linkage has worked correctly.
In this movie, I have various dynamic fields using the library font, with no

embedding.

What I expect to happen is that on publish, the target.swf movie should show

up with the embedded font. Instead, it's showing up with a (very pixellated,

since it's not embedded) version of the development font.

It looks to me like it's not even talking to the linked font. Am I wrong?

Danny 

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Re: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

2006-06-02 Thread Danny Kodicek
I hope that I don't insult your intelligence by referring you to a 
TechNote.


Not at all - I've tried a fair few places all with different advice, but 
this one might be the one that works :)



But, by following the steps as shown at
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14786 I was 
able

to use a shared font successfully in Flash 8.  It sounds as if you may be
taking some unnecessary steps: for example, you shouldn't need to include
any text fields in your sharedfonts.fla.  Also, make sure that you follow
the method of Open As Library as described in the TechNote.  (In Flash 
8,
this is File  Import  Open External Library).  Setting the library font 
to
a different font may in fact be causing a problem - I would suggest 
instead

testing with wingdings or some other crazy font so you can know for sure
it's working.


Thanks for the advice - one last try before I go home, then.

Danny 


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Re: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

2006-06-02 Thread Danny Kodicek


I hope that I don't insult your intelligence by referring you to a 
TechNote.

But, by following the steps as shown at
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14786 I was 
able

to use a shared font successfully in Flash 8.  It sounds as if you may be
taking some unnecessary steps: for example, you shouldn't need to include
any text fields in your sharedfonts.fla.  Also, make sure that you follow
the method of Open As Library as described in the TechNote.  (In Flash 
8,
this is File  Import  Open External Library).  Setting the library font 
to
a different font may in fact be causing a problem - I would suggest 
instead

testing with wingdings or some other crazy font so you can know for sure
it's working.


Okay, this works, thanks for that. But it makes no sense to me. The two 
files are both about 20k, so they can't contain the font outlines. So in 
what sense is this font embedded? As far as I can see, what this is doing is 
linking to a font named Arial, but someone without Arial on their system 
won't see it. (it does have the advantage that if I want to globally change 
the font, I just do it in one place, but that's all). So how can I embed the 
actual font outlines in the way I do for a local font?


Oh - and incidentally why the hell do I have to select 'export for 
actionScript' instead of 'export for runtime sharing'?!


Danny 


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RE: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

2006-06-02 Thread Tom Lee
If you want to do run-time embed rather than author-time embed, you follow
the exact same procedure, except that the linkage for your font library
would be Export for runtime sharing instead of Export for ActionScript.
I tried it with a really complex font called JokerMan and my resulting
filesizes were 44KB for fontLibrary.swf and just 124 bytes for fontTest.swf
(the consuming swf).

-tom

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Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)


 I hope that I don't insult your intelligence by referring you to a 
 TechNote.
 But, by following the steps as shown at
 http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14786 I was 
 able
 to use a shared font successfully in Flash 8.  It sounds as if you may be
 taking some unnecessary steps: for example, you shouldn't need to include
 any text fields in your sharedfonts.fla.  Also, make sure that you follow
 the method of Open As Library as described in the TechNote.  (In Flash 
 8,
 this is File  Import  Open External Library).  Setting the library font 
 to
 a different font may in fact be causing a problem - I would suggest 
 instead
 testing with wingdings or some other crazy font so you can know for sure
 it's working.

Okay, this works, thanks for that. But it makes no sense to me. The two 
files are both about 20k, so they can't contain the font outlines. So in 
what sense is this font embedded? As far as I can see, what this is doing is

linking to a font named Arial, but someone without Arial on their system 
won't see it. (it does have the advantage that if I want to globally change 
the font, I just do it in one place, but that's all). So how can I embed the

actual font outlines in the way I do for a local font?

Oh - and incidentally why the hell do I have to select 'export for 
actionScript' instead of 'export for runtime sharing'?!

Danny 

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RE: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

2006-06-02 Thread jim
Taking this back to the original point, did you ever get one font embedded
that has plain, bold, italic  bold italic symbols so if you have a html
text field with all of those styles inside it will display correctly?

I have never managed to do this  would like to know if its possible. I have
no trouble using shared assets movie clips, fonts, sounds etc its just this
one last thing that would make me very happy.

Jim

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Sent: 02 June 2006 17:38
To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

If you want to do run-time embed rather than author-time embed, you follow
the exact same procedure, except that the linkage for your font library
would be Export for runtime sharing instead of Export for ActionScript.
I tried it with a really complex font called JokerMan and my resulting
filesizes were 44KB for fontLibrary.swf and just 124 bytes for fontTest.swf
(the consuming swf).

-tom

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Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:07 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)


 I hope that I don't insult your intelligence by referring you to a 
 TechNote.
 But, by following the steps as shown at
 http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14786 I was 
 able
 to use a shared font successfully in Flash 8.  It sounds as if you may be
 taking some unnecessary steps: for example, you shouldn't need to include
 any text fields in your sharedfonts.fla.  Also, make sure that you follow
 the method of Open As Library as described in the TechNote.  (In Flash 
 8,
 this is File  Import  Open External Library).  Setting the library font 
 to
 a different font may in fact be causing a problem - I would suggest 
 instead
 testing with wingdings or some other crazy font so you can know for sure
 it's working.

Okay, this works, thanks for that. But it makes no sense to me. The two 
files are both about 20k, so they can't contain the font outlines. So in 
what sense is this font embedded? As far as I can see, what this is doing is

linking to a font named Arial, but someone without Arial on their system 
won't see it. (it does have the advantage that if I want to globally change 
the font, I just do it in one place, but that's all). So how can I embed the

actual font outlines in the way I do for a local font?

Oh - and incidentally why the hell do I have to select 'export for 
actionScript' instead of 'export for runtime sharing'?!

Danny 

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RE: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

2006-06-02 Thread Tom Lee
No... In fact it seems to fail entirely if you turn on Render Text as Html
for the text field.  I'll have to research this more another day.

-tom

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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

Taking this back to the original point, did you ever get one font embedded
that has plain, bold, italic  bold italic symbols so if you have a html
text field with all of those styles inside it will display correctly?

I have never managed to do this  would like to know if its possible. I have
no trouble using shared assets movie clips, fonts, sounds etc its just this
one last thing that would make me very happy.

Jim

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Sent: 02 June 2006 17:38
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

If you want to do run-time embed rather than author-time embed, you follow
the exact same procedure, except that the linkage for your font library
would be Export for runtime sharing instead of Export for ActionScript.
I tried it with a really complex font called JokerMan and my resulting
filesizes were 44KB for fontLibrary.swf and just 124 bytes for fontTest.swf
(the consuming swf).

-tom

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Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)


 I hope that I don't insult your intelligence by referring you to a 
 TechNote.
 But, by following the steps as shown at
 http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14786 I was 
 able
 to use a shared font successfully in Flash 8.  It sounds as if you may be
 taking some unnecessary steps: for example, you shouldn't need to include
 any text fields in your sharedfonts.fla.  Also, make sure that you follow
 the method of Open As Library as described in the TechNote.  (In Flash 
 8,
 this is File  Import  Open External Library).  Setting the library font 
 to
 a different font may in fact be causing a problem - I would suggest 
 instead
 testing with wingdings or some other crazy font so you can know for sure
 it's working.

Okay, this works, thanks for that. But it makes no sense to me. The two 
files are both about 20k, so they can't contain the font outlines. So in 
what sense is this font embedded? As far as I can see, what this is doing is

linking to a font named Arial, but someone without Arial on their system 
won't see it. (it does have the advantage that if I want to globally change 
the font, I just do it in one place, but that's all). So how can I embed the

actual font outlines in the way I do for a local font?

Oh - and incidentally why the hell do I have to select 'export for 
actionScript' instead of 'export for runtime sharing'?!

Danny 

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RE: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

2006-06-02 Thread jim
Bummer, well if you have any luck let me know.

Jim

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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

No... In fact it seems to fail entirely if you turn on Render Text as Html
for the text field.  I'll have to research this more another day.

-tom

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Taking this back to the original point, did you ever get one font embedded
that has plain, bold, italic  bold italic symbols so if you have a html
text field with all of those styles inside it will display correctly?

I have never managed to do this  would like to know if its possible. I have
no trouble using shared assets movie clips, fonts, sounds etc its just this
one last thing that would make me very happy.

Jim

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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Font symbols and bold/italic (cont.)

If you want to do run-time embed rather than author-time embed, you follow
the exact same procedure, except that the linkage for your font library
would be Export for runtime sharing instead of Export for ActionScript.
I tried it with a really complex font called JokerMan and my resulting
filesizes were 44KB for fontLibrary.swf and just 124 bytes for fontTest.swf
(the consuming swf).

-tom

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 I hope that I don't insult your intelligence by referring you to a 
 TechNote.
 But, by following the steps as shown at
 http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14786 I was 
 able
 to use a shared font successfully in Flash 8.  It sounds as if you may be
 taking some unnecessary steps: for example, you shouldn't need to include
 any text fields in your sharedfonts.fla.  Also, make sure that you follow
 the method of Open As Library as described in the TechNote.  (In Flash 
 8,
 this is File  Import  Open External Library).  Setting the library font 
 to
 a different font may in fact be causing a problem - I would suggest 
 instead
 testing with wingdings or some other crazy font so you can know for sure
 it's working.

Okay, this works, thanks for that. But it makes no sense to me. The two 
files are both about 20k, so they can't contain the font outlines. So in 
what sense is this font embedded? As far as I can see, what this is doing is

linking to a font named Arial, but someone without Arial on their system 
won't see it. (it does have the advantage that if I want to globally change 
the font, I just do it in one place, but that's all). So how can I embed the

actual font outlines in the way I do for a local font?

Oh - and incidentally why the hell do I have to select 'export for 
actionScript' instead of 'export for runtime sharing'?!

Danny 

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